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Old 10-01-2019, 09:32 PM   #726
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LMFAO stones about to break youtube live tonight if Postle is really in the Trooper stream. Can't wait
Looks like only his chair not break. Appears they brought in a Postle imposter.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:33 PM   #727
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This goes so far beyond just Postle cheating. The fact that the entire Stones Live crew, from the broadcasters to the technical staff to the floor and casino security, let this go on for MONTHS without a peep and have the gall to still defend the integrity of these games is criminally negligent.

Stones Live should be shut down immediately, the Stones poker room should face a serious investigation and heavy fines from the California Gaming Commission, and Postle and his co-conspirator(s) should be arrested and sent to jail. The man is part of a team that literally stole over $100k ON CAMERA and is being allowed to walk free. Absolutely disgusting.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:34 PM   #728
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Just reading through the replies on the first page of this thread, it's so funny all the people defending this guy even though he is obviously cheating. While I'm sure that it's obvious for the smart people, it doesn't seem to be obvious to the dumb people.
I was one of those that posted defending that you could make somewhat sick play if you read people well. That was after a few of the videos which was uploaded. Since has Joey gone rampage and post so much evidence that there is beyond any doubt that he is cheating. As many have said already, he is just looking to much down in his crotch to pay attention at all to other players.

If this casino avoid a lawsuit from the players participating in the games where Mike has been playing seems almost too good to be true. Should that be the end result I suspect that this has all been a show where the players are paid to play a role, almost as a marketing. Normally that seems so far fetch to be true, but today I watch Tottenham vs Bayern Munich and they had a reporter that visited the fan club of Tottenham in Los Angeles or somewhere else in the US. It seemed a bit strange for me since soccer or the real football, whatever way you wanna look at it, is not the biggest thing for the Americans. Nevertheless they broadcasted still from that fan club when they had the coin toss and they where celebrating when Bayern Munich won the toss. Since you are standing there in full gear I would expect that you know the rules of the game since you are using of your spare time to follow your team, unless you are on the clock.

Impressed by the work some of them members have been putting in here in this tread. Kudos!

And Alec is also a cheater. It comes in many shapes and sizes. Call it whatever you like. In the end they are stealing the money from other players by taking advantage of their own scummy personality. If it walks like a duck...……..

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Old 10-01-2019, 09:35 PM   #729
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Holy **** listen to the table talk on this hand. Mike says "I got a really good hand no way I'm losing this one." Then turn comes 7 giving Bryan a gutshot and he says, "Oh sh it." River another 7 locking the win and he says, "You scared me for a second." 100% he knew what Bryan had.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:36 PM   #730
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I just got banned from the twitch chat.. lol a lot of defenders in there. Quite fun while it lasted
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:39 PM   #731
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they do not have video feed of normal booth on stream
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:41 PM   #732
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Holy **** listen to the table talk on this hand. Mike says "I got a really good hand no way I'm losing this one." Then turn comes 7 giving Bryan a gutshot and he says, "Oh sh it." River another 7 locking the win and he says, "You scared me for a second." 100% he knew what Bryan had.
First piece of solid evidence right here? I actually saw that earlier and assumed the cards were already turned over, until they actually were.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:45 PM   #733
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It's really sad the certainty that most people have that Mike is cheating without needing any concrete evidence.

Any comment to the contrary is immediately met with infantile responses and further accusations based on personal opinion.

Anyone truly interested should watch the recordings available of this guy playing in it's entirety and not just selective clips as that often leads to biases.

I remember not too long ago when Linus was accused of cheating as well, an accusation which was later retracted.

Our egos often get the better of us, and often times when we don't understand something we choose to assume that it is wrong because the alternative would be to confront our own comprehension of the subject.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:49 PM   #734
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Have played 1000s of hours of live poker, I have never seen anyone hide their phone like this. Even people who I have caught watching porn on their phones are about 50% as discreet.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:49 PM   #735
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tonight's STONE's game seems to be comprised of the 1%...the 1% of the world's population to have yet log into the world wide web. Makes sense cheating could persist on such a show for so long
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:49 PM   #736
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It's really sad the certainty that most people have that Mike is cheating without needing any
I'm certain that you're an idiot. That's just from 2 posts too.

Anyone that can read this entire thread, watch those videos posted and everything on twitter, and then defend this guy.... You are either in on it, or really really stupid.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:50 PM   #737
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Want to go on the record. Not Cheating.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:51 PM   #738
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It's really sad the certainty that most people have that Mike is cheating without needing any concrete evidence.

Any comment to the contrary is immediately met with infantile responses and further accusations based on personal opinion.

Anyone truly interested should watch the recordings available of this guy playing in it's entirety and not just selective clips as that often leads to biases.

I remember not too long ago when Linus was accused of cheating as well, an accusation which was later retracted.

Our egos often get the better of us, and often times when we don't understand something we choose to assume that it is wrong because the alternative would be to confront our own comprehension of the subject.

OR... OR... we are doing our duty to preserve the legitimacy and integrity of the game.

anyone of those hands, in isolation, can be written off as luck, a read, or hitting the deck. same goes for a single session. but to consistently do that for 99% of his hands for 24+ sessions, is just impossible.

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Old 10-01-2019, 09:52 PM   #739
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It's really sad the certainty that most people have that Mike is cheating without needing any concrete evidence.

Any comment to the contrary is immediately met with infantile responses and further accusations based on personal opinion.

Anyone truly interested should watch the recordings available of this guy playing in it's entirety and not just selective clips as that often leads to biases.

I remember not too long ago when Linus was accused of cheating as well, an accusation which was later retracted.

Our egos often get the better of us, and often times when we don't understand something we choose to assume that it is wrong because the alternative would be to confront our own comprehension of the subject.
How come any player at any stakes who calls 3 bets with 95o v two villians and calls a 4 bet all in with 45o would be a massively losing player but Mike manages to do this while making about 200bbs/100 hands.

Can you think of any logical reason this might be the case?
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:53 PM   #740
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Want to go on the record. Not Cheating.
Strong argument here friend
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:55 PM   #741
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The best strategy for the poker community is to get this out to the media, especially local outlets in Northern California. This isn't some guy cheating for penny stakes at the family dinner table, it's a criminal conspiracy that has stolen >$100k from innocent players. State and federal law enforcement need to be notified of this and aided by the well-known and well-respected members of the poker community who have unanimously given their input on this issue.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:57 PM   #742
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I'm certain that you're an idiot. That's just from 2 posts too.

Anyone that can read this entire thread, watch those videos posted and everything on twitter, and then defend this guy.... You are either in on it, or really really stupid.
You clearly don't realise this but your comment is the epitome of the what I expounded earlier. So thank you for that.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:00 PM   #743
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OR... OR... we are doing our duty to preserve the legitimacy and integrity of the game.
It is important, but can only be done with an thorough unbiased investigation not one filled with preconceived assumptions and conclusions.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:02 PM   #744
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Holy **** listen to the table talk on this hand. Mike says "I got a really good hand no way I'm losing this one." Then turn comes 7 giving Bryan a gutshot and he says, "Oh sh it." River another 7 locking the win and he says, "You scared me for a second." 100% he knew what Bryan had.
Nice Find.

And yeah he's just the GOAT and also gets in there pre for a million bb with 95o. Word.

Mike is extremely stupid.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:03 PM   #745
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stones is live tonight? link?

edit: https://www.twitch.tv/stoneslivepoker
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:04 PM   #746
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It's really sad the certainty that most people have that Mike is cheating without needing any concrete evidence.

Any comment to the contrary is immediately met with infantile responses and further accusations based on personal opinion.

Anyone truly interested should watch the recordings available of this guy playing in it's entirety and not just selective clips as that often leads to biases.

I remember not too long ago when Linus was accused of cheating as well, an accusation which was later retracted.

Our egos often get the better of us, and often times when we don't understand something we choose to assume that it is wrong because the alternative would be to confront our own comprehension of the subject.
You are either mike, his wife, mom, someone in on the scam or just stupid
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:05 PM   #747
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How come any player at any stakes who calls 3 bets with 95o v two villians and calls a 4 bet all in with 45o would be a massively losing player but Mike manages to do this while making about 200bbs/100 hands.

Can you think of any logical reason this might be the case?
You are assuming that it is a losing play based on your current understanding, but how sure are you that your understanding is correct? Even the best players in the world are far from fully comprehending theory based solutions, and even then there are infinite number of variations that if changed, would change the outcome of the solution.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:08 PM   #748
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Everyone, just stop engaging BewareScrimitzu. Troll, in the original sense of the word.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:08 PM   #749
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Holy **** listen to the table talk on this hand. Mike says "I got a really good hand no way I'm losing this one." Then turn comes 7 giving Bryan a gutshot and he says, "Oh sh it." River another 7 locking the win and he says, "You scared me for a second." 100% he knew what Bryan had.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:09 PM   #750
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It is important, but can only be done with an thorough unbiased investigation not one filled with preconceived assumptions and conclusions.
im sorry but there is no substance to your arguments. thats why you're getting trolled. do you expect Stones to conduct an unbiased investigation? What preconceived assumptions? Please refute our arguments in detail. You just want us to believe he's that good and we are just jealous? hes literally solved the game of no limit holdem if you believe he isnt cheating. Occams razor... whats more likely, he solved the game or hes cheating?
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