Lon commentates a niche sport/hobby on ESPN that barely gets any coverage outside of like 1-2 weeks a year during ESPN’s “offseason”. I think he’s a great commentator but he is no where near the A-list at ESPN. He’s probably not even in the top 90% salary wise of on air talent.

Again, I agree, he's not Dick Vitale.

But this understates how much content the WSOP provides to ESPN. ESPN has to fill a lot of hours during the summer when the only major sport going on is baseball. WSOP coverage is fairly cheap to produce, and gets decent ratings as compared to what they could be putting on (MLS, tennis, WNBA) at that point.

And he's been working there 17 years. Which means he's getting periodic raises as all long-term ESPN employees do.

I don't know where he ranks in terms of his salary (bear in mind, my "A list" comment was really about where he stands in terms of poker, not where he stands in comparison to Scott Van Pelt), but he makes enough money that he doesn't have to do paid appearances at Stones Gambling Hall.

lol indeed. mike's early work was not his best work.

tbf seat one often has problems picking up the cards in many streams. pretty sure someone mentioned in here that they were told that at stones one time. funny when it does read he has the mighty T5o

Not sure if it has been discussed before, but at some point in time in the last 6-12 months, seat assignment on stream was supposedly random and pre-assigned before you sat down. Any of you all who played on stream have insight? Postle's seating distribution was never random, which is another link to possible co-conspirators.

Falsely accusing (the accuser knows that it's false) and accusing (charging/asserting someone has, which has yet to be proven) is not the same thing. If it were; anyone acquitted/found not guilty could then turn around and sue the prosecutor for defamation, generally it doesn't work that way. If you note; I never said anything about a false accusation, I believe I said "merely accusing someone."

An involuntary public figure is a well established concept when it comes to defamation. As an example, Taylor Swift and Charles Manson are both public figures. Swift, voluntarily because she chose a high profile profession and "made it", whereas (although I could be wrong) Manson probably didn't want to get caught/arrested/charged, but he did and involuntarily became a public figure.

Thank god (I mean Mike Postle) you know exactly how much money Lon makes, how much he needs for his lifestyle and whether or not he needs to do paid appearances during his non ESPN time.

I had no idea you were his agent or wife. Oh wait you’re just a lawdude with way too much time to argue on his hands who is now derailing the thread

Also it is a public issue (cheating people on live stream out of $350,000 or more!)

Postle would get the **** anti-slapped out of him in California.

Any written or oral statement or writing made in a place open to the public or a public forum in connection with an issue of public interest is protected.

The statute allows you to file a special motion to strike a complaint filed against you based on an "act in furtherance of [your] right of petition or free speech under the United States or California Constitution in connection with a public issue." Cal. Civ. Proc. Code § 425.16. If a court rules in your favor, it will dismiss the plaintiff's case early in the litigation and award you attorneys' fees and court costs.

He was in seat 2 over 60% of the time in his last 25 sessions so either someone colluded with him or did him a favor.

1. The reason nobody can sue a prosecutor is that prosecutors have legal immunity from suit. The only exception in most jurisdictions is a suit for malicious prosecution, which requires a prosecution without probable cause and motivated by malice. But merely bringing false charges is not actionable.

2. If the plaintiff is not a public figure, a false accusation of a crime is actionable defamation, unless done non-negligently. A true accusation of a crime is not defamation, of course.

3. If there's a such a thing as an involuntary public figure, yes, Manson would have qualified. But if you read Gertz v. Robert Welch, you will see that the theoretical possibility of an involuntary public figure is said to be "exceedingly rare", and the lower courts have split as to whether the category really exists in any practical way. In cases where it has been asserted, the argument has almost always lost.

That rule was almost never enforced. Everyone pretty much sat where they wanted. in Veronica and friends we always sat in the same seats

Why do you keep bringing up the fact that hes a lawyer when the topic youre discussing has nothing to do with law? All he is saying is that we shouldn't underestimate the exposure of the stream and the marketing it brought to the venue. You are behaving like a child throwing a tantrum when something doesn't go your way. I don't care if you argue with him, lawdude can handle himself, but lay off the lawyer bullshit, especially when it doesn't pertain to the conversation.

It doesn't hit on that image or screen. The tolerances in the range its looking for are pretty damn tight - I spent some time refining it

Just like with the glasses there is no lighting or reflection that would push that into being in range - earlier in this thread before we knew it was the chrome key from PokerGFX we searched high and low for what app would produce that blue and came up with nothing

That said - the idea here was to throw up more leads to look at. It is important that whatever is found is corroborated before anybody is thrown under the bus but I have a feeling that an analysis of phone use across (plan is after detecting the blue screens to detect his phone placement and texting with a model) all of the live streams there would be a statistical significance that correlates with his hand results

I'm likely going to have a chance to publish the code over the weekend along with the 600GB+ archive of raw video so that others can contribute to it and help run it

Hey Veronica, really enjoyed your podcast yesterday with Joey. Keep up the amazing work!

Thread Captain,

I’m not talking to you right now, kindly piss off to bother another poster

This is your second post in a row containing no content and lots of insults.

I think you should probably stop now.

Python + OpenCV

The color part isn't that hard - it's just a ton of data processing, more interesting is building a model to find people and the phone and phone positions

I plan on publishing the code + details + data + all results

On a lighter note, we have RaisingTheNuts' take on the situation:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYxcXlHtS5A

It has been explained that tournament seats were selected randomly, but players could choose where to sit in cash games, and he chose that one as his back was to the camera most of the time.

Again, a false accusation and an accusation are two different things. That's all I am saying. Defamation is not limited to being falsely accused of a crime, it's any statement that is false and causes harm to the defamed party's reputation. Of course an accusation could cause harm to the reputation of the accused, that doesn't mean the accusation was a false accusation. Knowingly accusing someone of something when in fact the accuser knows it is false is very very different than accusing/asserting something about someone based on what evidence I may have at the time to assert/accuse such a thing. It's why "it was my opinion when I said it" is one of the simplest defenses for defamation. Saying something one knows is false and saying something that turns out to be false is not the same thing: the first would be a false accusation, the other is just an accusation. People assert/accuse things all the time in daily life that end up not being true, but that doesn't necessarily mean its defamation.

sorry, i am not thread captain, i am just highly allergic to bullshit.

Pure opinion is not defamatory. But opinions that imply factual claims can be actionable. See Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co.

I never said they cannot be actionable. Just like I cannot say every accusation that turns out to be false is in fact a false accusation that would be deemed defamatory.

Thanks for chiming in. I remember early on in the thread, someone mentioned Postle liked to show up early for the streams and locked up seat 2, do you remember seeing him do that? Good luck with the lawsuit, I hope you all get your money back and hopefully the full truth comes out and appreciate you coming forward.

"The situation is non-compus mentus"

I spit out my hot tea!!!