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Old 10-10-2019, 01:45 PM   #7251
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Very interesting hearing Mike talk for the first 30 minutes of the stream. He seems less stressed out and more joyful. He goes back in the booth at the 02:25:00 mark. Mike takes a 100 dollar bill out of his pocket and says lets not just giveaway a hoodie i am going to add 100 dollars cash. Lol

At 02:32:00 Postle references mike matusow and how groups of people just run better. Lol this is hilarious. Someone send this to Joey

At about 04:15:00 mike is back in the booth.
At 04:20:00 Mike Postle agrees with a viewer about being a mad scientist and evil genius at the same time. And laughs about it. Odd and ironic. Check it out!

At 04:23:40 Justin Kelly makes an odd comment saying’ “live poker is rigged”. And postle jokes “of course” and rolls his eyes.

https://youtu.be/s-AuY0YsEt4

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Old 10-10-2019, 01:47 PM   #7252
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You never know what twists and turns this thread will take you on
I'm still cracking up over the sidetrack you went off on when Alysha started dancing and twerking after winning the hand from Postle on her birthday.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:48 PM   #7253
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Dude all those people are simply HATERS. Postle is clearly better at PLO then Joey despite Joey suggesting hes a good PLO player. Doug was once a very good HUNL player, but correct me if Im wrong, one thing he never did, was CRUSH Tom Dwan HU. Could be some resentment there from Doug that Mike pretty much destroyed Dwan to the point where Dwan has to leave the public eye. Mikes also the biggest winner in the history of UB, which is likely in the 10 million range, considering Prahlad won over 7...so you can see why a lot of people would be jealous. And Veronica is jealous because shes lucky enough to live in the same city as the God, and from what I gather, EVERYONE in Sacramento rightfully praises Mike P as the GOAT, so I can see how others might eventually get tired of this. Its also pretty telling Mike challenged Doug to 100 matches HU and Doug seemed terrified and quickly declined. Im glad Mike, who really went out of his way to keep a low profile since hes a single father (did you know that?), is ready to let everyone know hes one of the best players in the world and said hed be playing anywhere and everyone once these allegations get cleared up. Hes 100,000% innocent.
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I'm not sure if your post is satire or not because it's so laughable and the fact that Joey said something to the effect of "he's ****ing terrible at PLO" when he thought Postle was gonna challenge him to HU on the Matusow podcast/Joey's live stream.
Seriously?

Of course, it was sarcasm. And you're not the first or only person in this thread who hasn't been able to recognize obvious sarcasm when it's been posted. Do people really have to start using the sarcasm emoji to keep others from getting confused?
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:48 PM   #7254
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You never know what twists and turns this thread will take you on
cant wait for the JRB podcast today, youre killing it brother!
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:51 PM   #7255
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And they drew people like Chris Moneymaker and Lon McEachern to a casino in Sacramento!



Obviously we shouldn't pretend that these streams were like WSOP broadcasts or something, but it downplays it way way too much to say "there were only 200 people watching" or something. These streams helped Stones a lot.


They paid Lon, Chris is a friend of Mikes from Tunica.

The poker boom ended nearly a decade ago and both names are way old news to the general public.

Its more likely they both went to Sacramento in need of a paycheck than they were paid big bucks to show up and it just sent the viewer numbers into the stratosphere. I know youre a lawyer but youre getting a little carried away itt
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:53 PM   #7256
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Seriously?

Of course, it was sarcasm. And you're not the first or only person in this thread who hasn't been able to recognize obvious sarcasm when it's been posted. Do people really have to start using the sarcasm emoji to keep others from getting confused?
yea that guy was either Joey Cochran himself, or a level 9000 satirist. but to be fair, its hard to tell bc Postle defenders actually do sound like that
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:55 PM   #7257
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I think people need to be careful of accusing some of these commentarors of being in on it. The commentators are not working every single day mike is playing, this is why justin "i'm assuming he lied?", justin had told veronica mike was on a 25k downswing. I'm assuming he told her this to squash her fears that mike is always winning.

Also, it's easy in hindsight when you know mikes actual win-rate. Also, some of these commentators are probably recreational players + even the players that were playing with mike were not suspicious either. I think this is why mike never had a desire to move up stakes, he knew the players/commentators excluding veronica were not suspicious of him. Another thing, the stream was not getting alot of views, individuals watching the stream are not going to be watching the stream every single time just focusing on mikes play.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:55 PM   #7258
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Kasey, Masta C and Justin Kelley clearly know that that mike is cheating.

Sep10th 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdth...utu.be&t=13140

Kasey:"Mike P is savage in the best possible way, savage, King Savage"
Notice the chatbox on the right, Mike ps Earings are reported incorrectly in the chat on purpose (-$480)
he is actually god moding and winning.
Notice the title of this stream "UPDATE:" This is the only stream labeled this. It may be nothing but I think its a message to the viewers.

4:31:20 (https://youtu.be/Cdth3LKqUpE?t=16320)
Watch the last 2 hands of the stream and listen to Kasey and Chris's(Master C) commentary closely, Notice when Kasey changes to a British Accent,
make sure to watch the very short scene at the end with Kasey and Chris.

Sep 15th 2018
https://youtu.be/hqq-FCkt4Mk?t=15797
Notice The chatbox on the right Stones Live Poker​:im a mutha flippin wizard thats how we see the cards
Kasey and Scott again are trying to tell the viewers about mikes cheating. The winnings are again reported in the Chatbox incorrectly.
The girl in the middle who played in this game is supposedly up 1k on the report, she makes a joke about not telling her husband(she was actually down money this session).
Notice the stream is labeled Veronica and Friends. Veronica isn't even here Kasey and Scott mention this at the end as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqq-...utu.be&t=15460 Again notice the commentary in this hand.



Sep24th 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaM...outu.be&t=3784
I want you to look at the chatbox on the right, notice the way JFK promotes the stream I think this is important

Oct10th 2018
https://youtu.be/8S34bbYnsA4?t=16367

Every time postle is in booth its full of clues.
Justin Kelley and Kasey are interviewing Mike at the end of the show. They are clearly trying to expose him to the viewers, evidence of another innocent commentator.
Everyone has been pointing fingers at all the commentators when in fact they are not all as guilty as everyone thinks and this post will prove that.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:56 PM   #7259
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Very interesting hearing Mike talk for the first 30 minutes of the stream. He seems less stressed out and more joyful. He goes back in the booth at the 02:25:00 mark. Mike takes a 100 dollar bill out of his pocket and says lets not just giveaway a hoodie i am going to add 100 dollars cash. Lol

At 02:32:00 Postle references mike matusow and how groups of people just run better. Lol this is hilarious. Someone send this to Joey
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At about 04:15:00 mike is back in the booth.
At 04:20:00 Mike Postle agrees with a viewer about being a mad scientist and evil genius at the same time. And laughs about it. Odd and ironic. Check it out!

At 04:23:40 Justin Kelly makes an odd comment saying’ “live poker is rigged”. And postle jokes “of course” and rolls his eyes.

https://youtu.be/s-AuY0YsEt4
Timestamps confirmed. Worth a view imo.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:57 PM   #7260
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Seriously?

Of course, it was sarcasm. And you're not the first or only person in this thread who hasn't been able to recognize obvious sarcasm when it's been posted. Do people really have to start using the sarcasm emoji to keep others from getting confused?
There is a reason people are not sure if this is satire.

You must be new to this thread.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:01 PM   #7261
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People got mad when I said OJ was innocent, and as we all know I was completely vindicated. Same thing here.
if the crotch-phone doesn't fit, you must acquit! lol
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:03 PM   #7262
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They paid Lon, Chris is a friend of Mike’s from Tunica.

The poker boom ended nearly a decade ago and both names are way old news to the general public.

It’s more likely they both went to Sacramento in need of a paycheck than they were paid big bucks to show up and it just sent the viewer numbers into the stratosphere. I know you’re a lawyer but you’re getting a little carried away itt
Unless McEachern has gambled away his money or something, he does not need whatever Stones paid him.

Do you know what A-list ESPN announcers make? (Hint: it's got to be at least mid-six figures.) EDIT: I know that net worth sites aren't necessarily gospel, but his net worth is listed at $5 million by one of them. He doesn't need Stones' money.

You are right, though, that I don't know the circumstances of how Moneymaker came to be invited.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:04 PM   #7263
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Maybe this has been posted, but CA news story on the lawsuit that I found on YT a few minutes ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TNpqBo3R5w
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:05 PM   #7264
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In my defense of not picking up said sarcasm:
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its hard to tell bc Postle defenders actually do sound like that
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:09 PM   #7265
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I apologize if this has been established already and I missed it:
Unlike how the cheating methodology with the phone has been reasonably established, the same has not been done for the hat.

We know that bone conduction technology exists.
We know that his hat sometimes looks stuffed.
We see that Postle physically moves like he's trying to hear better.

But beyond that it doesn't seem that we've fully explored what the cheat methodology with the hat is.

1. Is this one way communication with an accomplice, i.e. voice call?

2. Is there a demonstrable pattern for when he receives the information i.e. only postflop?

3. Can we observe Mike signaling for re-broadcast of information?

4. Does his play suggest that he knows his opponents exact holdings or only the correct action?

5. Does he appear to use the hat in conjunction with the phone, or as an independent system?

It seems like answering these questions would more clearly define who his accomplice was based on their availability during the stream, poker acumen, etc.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:09 PM   #7266
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Maybe this has been posted, but CA news story on the lawsuit that I found on YT a few minutes ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TNpqBo3R5w
Yes, how can the news use WSOP chips, tables and logos etc from the RIO when they have nothing to do with it?
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:12 PM   #7267
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Dude all those people are simply HATERS. Postle is clearly better at PLO then Joey despite Joey suggesting hes a good PLO player. Doug was once a very good HUNL player, but correct me if Im wrong, one thing he never did, was CRUSH Tom Dwan HU. Could be some resentment there from Doug that Mike pretty much destroyed Dwan to the point where Dwan has to leave the public eye. Mikes also the biggest winner in the history of UB, which is likely in the 10 million range, considering Prahlad won over 7...so you can see why a lot of people would be jealous. And Veronica is jealous because shes lucky enough to live in the same city as the God, and from what I gather, EVERYONE in Sacramento rightfully praises Mike P as the GOAT, so I can see how others might eventually get tired of this. Its also pretty telling Mike challenged Doug to 100 matches HU and Doug seemed terrified and quickly declined. Im glad Mike, who really went out of his way to keep a low profile since hes a single father (did you know that?), is ready to let everyone know hes one of the best players in the world and said hed be playing anywhere and everyone once these allegations get cleared up. Hes 100,000% innocent.
Did you know he also has a health condition?
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:12 PM   #7268
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You are right, though, that I don't know the circumstances of how Moneymaker came to be invited.
he's a stones sponsored pro and makes appearances for tournaments there quite often (or used to in 2016-17 when I played there)
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:14 PM   #7269
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They paid Lon, Chris is a friend of Mike’s from Tunica.

The poker boom ended nearly a decade ago and both names are way old news to the general public.

It’s more likely they both went to Sacramento in need of a paycheck than they were paid big bucks to show up and it just sent the viewer numbers into the stratosphere. I know you’re a lawyer but you’re getting a little carried away itt
That post he made had nothing to do with law. I don't know what youre trying to get at here but lawdude is adding extreme value to this thread. I can not imagine the number of arguments he has prevented from ever happening, as well as, the amount of misinformation that would have spread like wildfire had he not been here to share his knowledge. Plz kindly **** off.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:14 PM   #7270
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Sep 15th 2018
https://youtu.be/hqq-FCkt4Mk?t=15797
Notice The chatbox on the right Stones Live Poker​:im a mutha flippin wizard thats how we see the cards
Kasey and Scott again are trying to tell the viewers about mikes cheating. The winnings are again reported in the Chatbox incorrectly.
The girl in the middle who played in this game is supposedly up 1k on the report, she makes a joke about not telling her husband(she was actually down money this session).
Notice the stream is labeled Veronica and Friends. Veronica isn't even here Kasey and Scott mention this at the end as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqq-...utu.be&t=15460 Again notice the commentary in this hand.


Guys this is crazy, watch this hand with the commentary and while viewing the live chat. Its unbelievable, “im a mutha flippin wizard thats how we see the cards”. Is typed out by stones . He says “we”. This could be taylor or Jfk. Probably Taylor. This punk is getting cocky! Not only has mike just made the sickest play humanly possible but his accomplice is bragging about it in the chat! WTF WTF WTF

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Old 10-10-2019, 02:18 PM   #7271
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True - one would hope he didn't have access, but they are all buddies so he could have asked just for access - complain the normal guest wifi wasn't good enough etc.

Whoever is doing discovery will get to see their firewall logs /configs and will know.
I vaguely remember Veronica saying something like "everyone knew the password and it didn't change the entire time I was there", but I don't remember if she was talking about wifi or a computer password.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:18 PM   #7272
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I converted the first hour of the session on 2018-12-15 to be played on http://www.replayer.winningpokerhud.com to show all hole cards from the beginning of the hand, and to accept a straddle.

Here is the hh:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=...73759466477918

"Unfortunately" no God's move was done on that period, but he play almost all hands. I wanted to convert the entire session but is a tedious task, if someone want to convert the remaining hands of the session or other one when he is clearly on God's mode, please go ahead.

The hand history is like the PokerStars hand history, just write the straddle posts line and villans hands after the hero hand. (not summary needed)

Ex:


Needs a three break lines between each hand and after the last one. No summary needed.

The (few) hands he didn't put money on the pot, it just show him folding.

I recorded a 5 min. video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6ziGsuPdM

Incredible work. Try doing the last hours of shows rather than the first. My experience watching the videos makes me think he cheats towards the end of the streams rather than the beginning.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:23 PM   #7273
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Kasey, Masta C and Justin Kelley clearly know that that mike is cheating.

Sep10th 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdth...utu.be&t=13140

Kasey:"Mike P is savage in the best possible way, savage, King Savage"
Notice the chatbox on the right, Mike ps Earings are reported incorrectly in the chat on purpose (-$480)
he is actually god moding and winning.
Notice the title of this stream "UPDATE:" This is the only stream labeled this. It may be nothing but I think its a message to the viewers.

4:31:20 (https://youtu.be/Cdth3LKqUpE?t=16320)
Watch the last 2 hands of the stream and listen to Kasey and Chris's(Master C) commentary closely, Notice when Kasey changes to a British Accent,
make sure to watch the very short scene at the end with Kasey and Chris.

Sep 15th 2018
https://youtu.be/hqq-FCkt4Mk?t=15797
Notice The chatbox on the right Stones Live Poker​:im a mutha flippin wizard thats how we see the cards
Kasey and Scott again are trying to tell the viewers about mikes cheating. The winnings are again reported in the Chatbox incorrectly.
The girl in the middle who played in this game is supposedly up 1k on the report, she makes a joke about not telling her husband(she was actually down money this session).
Notice the stream is labeled Veronica and Friends. Veronica isn't even here Kasey and Scott mention this at the end as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqq-...utu.be&t=15460 Again notice the commentary in this hand.



Sep24th 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaM...outu.be&t=3784
I want you to look at the chatbox on the right, notice the way JFK promotes the stream I think this is important

Oct10th 2018
https://youtu.be/8S34bbYnsA4?t=16367

Every time postle is in booth its full of clues.
Justin Kelley and Kasey are interviewing Mike at the end of the show. They are clearly trying to expose him to the viewers, evidence of another innocent commentator.
Everyone has been pointing fingers at all the commentators when in fact they are not all as guilty as everyone thinks and this post will prove that.
Amazing. Also if you are in youtube you can comment on the stream and drop the time stamp in the comments for people to see who may come across the video. The Sept 15th stream and what was said in the chat is damning.

On the october 10th video a little after 04:34:30. He says i want to provide entertainment to everyone postflop especially. He really thinks hes putting on a show by scamming people. Its sad really.

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Old 10-10-2019, 02:26 PM   #7274
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Want to go on the record. Not Cheating.
Holy **** was I wrong on this one !! This POS is guilty AF. I hope they hang this SOB by his nut sack. Shout out to the 2p2 investigation team and Chicago Joey for the great work in uncovering this cheat.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:27 PM   #7275
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He is going for $10,000,000 punitive.
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Who is going for 10 million? For those able to keep up is there any new developments since about 4000 posts in?

Thanks
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