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Old 10-10-2019, 02:42 AM   #7101
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Going over the unchecked October 8 2018 PLO stream.
Just finished this session. It's extremely interesting. Mike starts the session in the 5 seat. He's very animated, stands up and sits down a few times, hands over the rail, phone on the rail at times, but still looking at his dick at points.

But then at ~2:17:00 someone leaves seat 2, at 2:18:30 Mike switches seats to seat 2. When he moves to seat 2, he's very to himself, he never gets up, and his phone is never seen again. The only time he picks his left hand up is for one hand where he eats and that's it. He plays every single hand but one from this point on. He's absolutely cheating despite losing as he decides to gamble away $743 on the last hand with top set vs. straight vs. combo draw.

Specific hands as there are many spots where he's dick checking and playing perfectly. Don't wanna link all of them but they're at:
~1:36:00, ~2:03:00, ~2:13:00 ~2:17:00, ~2:22:00, ~2:25:00 (esp. funny). I'd stopped documenting at some point here. It's painfully obvious he's cheating.

Joey, as a PLO enthusiast, I encourage you to watch this if you want more evidence.

This is the funnest picture so far. A bomb pot but he's getting a massage so he sneaks a peak. and obviously he plays perfectly by betting fl/tu and x'ing river to pick off a bluff on a good run out.



Check Mike out at the left side of the screen at 2:53:02. He looks down, sees he's dominated by AA and sees one of his Kings is gone. He shakes his head and gets a look of disgust on his face...
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:44 AM   #7102
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Did MP recently delete his facebook page? I can't find it anymore, but his twitter is still up though?
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:52 AM   #7103
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I've always counted on you for good posts and you didn't disappoint on this one. I almost feel bad that I laughed at this pic but it is pathetically funny.

MP is such a scumbag!
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:53 AM   #7104
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He got 54o in pre vs two players deep... That wasn't suspicious enough? If he is at least a little bit smart, then you would find more hands like this T8 hand. Hands that would strengthen his defense. The thing is that everyone is only focusing on the might be cheating hands.
I was responding specifically to PiB's post (his belief that there's no way Postle could've played that pair 8x hand the way he did if he had godmode on), and how he easily could've followed the line he did if he knew his opponent's cards. That it's so easy to figure out his reasoning that even a low-level player like me can see it. That's all this reply was - I was flabbergasted at how someone could see that and think it was a defense in any way (though in retrospect, I should've waited before posting the reply - I saw so many of PiB's posts over the next few pages, and most of them were as ignorant as this one that I responded to).
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:10 AM   #7105
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I'm fairly sure they still use the table when it's not streaming. I'd have to defer to people who are there more regularly, though – last time I was there was the Moneymaker Tour thing, and they were streaming pretty much all day.
The only times I've seen the stream table used for cash games is after the stream is over and the game is still running.

I do/did like Stones better than the other options around here.
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:22 AM   #7106
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I have no idea why reasonable brain-minded people are in the thread trying to convince complete idiots that Mike cheated

Just ignore these ******s/trolls ffs
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:26 AM   #7107
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Just finished this session.
Check Mike out at the left side of the screen at 2:53:02. He looks down, sees he's dominated by AA and sees one of his Kings is gone. He shakes his head and gets a look of disgust on his face...
Nice research and screengrab. I added a link to your post in the spreadsheet, so whoever's in charge of it will probably change it to "God Mode".
Apparently, Mike went home with $0 at the end of that session. PLO confirmed unbeatable even by superusers.

Oh, he flopped top set queens and lost to J5 making a backdoor flush ha ha ha.
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:02 AM   #7108
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Mike Postle was outed by Jonathan Little In June 2019 on YouTube
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:11 AM   #7109
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Mike Postle was outed by Jonathan Little In June 2019 on YouTube
Nah, he just changed the video title after the allegations came to light to "God Mode (or Cheating?) by Mike Postle in a $5/$10 Cash Game"

As top commenter on that very video, I can confirm the title was different when I posted a week ago.
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:18 AM   #7110
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Any Tunica players from the mid-2000s remember Postle working there as a dealer and Supervisor? It was on his LinkedIn page before he deleted it. Why would he delete this? Curious if he was fired for cheating there
How bad at poker did a pro have to be to work as a dealer in the mid-2000s?

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Wait, what?

This is a little strange, right, given there is a lawsuit filed? I mean, I don't even play a lawyer on TV, let alone on a poker stream, but ...

Also, what is "settle" here? Refund all pots lost?
Not sure, but if Stones offers free cafe lattes for life, take the settlement!

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Check Mike out at the left side of the screen at 2:53:02. He looks down, sees he's dominated by AA and sees one of his Kings is gone. He shakes his head and gets a look of disgust on his face...
Very nice find!

On a side note I found it interesting how bad the preflop equity was for AA62hxhh. The aces were gone, 2 of the 6s were gone, one dude folded 4 hearts, and a lot of straight cards were gone too.

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I have no idea why reasonable brain-minded people are in the thread trying to convince complete idiots that Mike cheated

Just ignore these ******s/trolls ffs
My general rule of thumb is to ignore anyone that thinks passive is better.
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:30 AM   #7111
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I have no idea why reasonable brain-minded people are in the thread trying to convince complete idiots that Mike cheated

Just ignore these ******s/trolls ffs
Your aimless insults lose most of their offensiveness when you're referring to the content contributors as "brain-minded people."

Mike cheated, whether they've convinced you or not.
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:57 AM   #7112
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Just finished this session. It's extremely interesting. Mike starts the session in the 5 seat. He's very animated, stands up and sits down a few times, hands over the rail, phone on the rail at times, but still looking at his dick at points.

But then at ~2:17:00 someone leaves seat 2, at 2:18:30 Mike switches seats to seat 2. When he moves to seat 2, he's very to himself, he never gets up, and his phone is never seen again. The only time he picks his left hand up is for one hand where he eats and that's it. He plays every single hand but one from this point on. He's absolutely cheating despite losing as he decides to gamble away $743 on the last hand with top set vs. straight vs. combo draw.

Specific hands as there are many spots where he's dick checking and playing perfectly. Don't wanna link all of them but they're at:
~1:36:00, ~2:03:00, ~2:13:00 ~2:17:00, ~2:22:00, ~2:25:00 (esp. funny). I'd stopped documenting at some point here. It's painfully obvious he's cheating.

Joey, as a PLO enthusiast, I encourage you to watch this if you want more evidence.

This is the funnest picture so far. A bomb pot but he's getting a massage so he sneaks a peak. and obviously he plays perfectly by betting fl/tu and x'ing river to pick off a bluff on a good run out.



Check Mike out at the left side of the screen at 2:53:02. He looks down, sees he's dominated by AA and sees one of his Kings is gone. He shakes his head and gets a look of disgust on his face...
Nice find man, his expressions/actions during some of these plo streams give him away big time.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:20 AM   #7113
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I have no idea why reasonable brain-minded people are in the thread trying to convince complete idiots that Mike cheated

Just ignore these ******s/trolls ffs
You’re unreal, the trillion to 1 poker player virtually never loses, folds top pair or trips? He loves his dick so much that he keeps checking it’s still there! He also spookily knows when the card reader isn’t working? There’s also a bright blue light on one of the few times he shows his dick to the world & there’s a reason for that as his mobile phone has the same software front end which also stops his phone from going blank after 5 minutes like most phones. Jonathan Little picked up on Mikes cheating in June 2019 a couple of times but he let it be as it takes hundreds of hours to collate each hand. He plays near perfect poker on the flop & absurd poker running up a 4 & 5 like you do? Offsuit as well.

He’s 100 percent Cheating & you need to take your tongue out of mike the fake God Mode players backside & get real. We have real statisticians on here who have proved he had more chance of doing a round trip to Mars!!

The Blue light emissions is the colour you get when putting the software used to read the cards & transmit them to the booth & to Mikes Phone which I’m told he’s changed it?!

At first I looked at it from fresh eyes but as a statistician is my findings & also listening to one guy who knows the card reading software like no one else have concluded he’s cheating.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:29 AM   #7114
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You’re unreal, the trillion to 1 poker player virtually never loses, folds top pair or trips? He loves his dick so much that he keeps checking it’s still there! He also spookily knows when the card reader isn’t working? There’s also a bright blue light on one of the few times he shows his dick to the world & there’s a reason for that as his mobile phone has the same software front end which also stops his phone from going blank after 5 minutes like most phones. Jonathan Little picked up on Mikes cheating in June 2019 a couple of times but he let it be as it takes hundreds of hours to collate each hand. He plays near perfect poker on the flop & absurd poker running up a 4 & 5 like you do? Offsuit as well.

He’s 100 percent Cheating & you need to take your tongue out of mike the fake God Mode players backside & get real. We have real statisticians on here who have proved he had more chance of doing a round trip to Mars!!

The Blue light emissions is the colour you get when putting the software used to read the cards & transmit them to the booth & to Mikes Phone which I’m told he’s changed it?!

At first I looked at it from fresh eyes but as a statistician is my findings & also listening to one guy who knows the card reading software like no one else have concluded he’s cheating.
lol nice rant

The guy you are quoting is agreeing that he's cheating and saying the people who say he isn't are trolls.

Maybe you should read better before putting thast much effort into typing furiously
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:30 AM   #7115
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Not very bright are you DonKingFishys
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:37 AM   #7116
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Not very bright are you DonKingFishys
at least he has a guaranteed tilt issue
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:42 AM   #7117
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lol i was literally about to respond to the donkeyfish and figured "let's just hit the refresh button one time"
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:46 AM   #7118
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My question since we have lawyers hanging around here is IF he didn't cheat, what recourse would Postle have for defamation? Was he a non public figure 1. when Veronica tweeted, 2. when joey posted his first video 3. now?
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:04 AM   #7119
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Some good content with the PLO hands posted, thanks. His expression when he sees how dead he is is great
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:05 AM   #7120
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The next hand here is very weird. We see Mike 3bet with 3 2 off suit and call a 4bet bet while his opponent has 99. Mike just lost a big pot before on a bad river. His 32 calls the 4bet and of course he flops 2 pair. Im very confused about this one.

(the graphic is wrong Joe has over 1,000 but graphic shows he has 295.)

Joe raises to 35 in utg +1. Mike 3bets to 145 in the HJ. Joe 4bets to 535. Mike calls with another player to act. Bam mike flops 2 pair on flop and starts laughing.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327032438?t=01h10m32s

Triple barrel by mike here and of course he is right. He leads river because it would be too suspect to check call a bluff here.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327032438?t=29m01s


This clip shows one of the graphics/production guys coming in to adjust the cameras a bit mid stream. Lance or Taylor. (I get them mixed up) This clip just goes to show that they literally can control cameras and camera placement. And my theory is that is one reason they thought they could get away with this. If they know they control the cameras and graphics they all feel like gods getting away with this scheme.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327032438?t=37m10s

This next clip is subtle and you can see Mike look down inbetween crotch after he bets in a multiway pot. He always picks a great time to double check his hole cards doesn't he, he picks the times when he wants to see or make sure what his opponents have. The funny thing here is he looks down immediately after he bets. He isn't looking at what his opponents do or how they respond to his bet. No he has to look down after the bet to confirm other players holdings. Take a look below.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327032438?t=54m10s

These are all from the same session All within an hour.

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Old 10-10-2019, 06:12 AM   #7121
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lol nice rant

The guy you are quoting is agreeing that he's cheating and saying the people who say he isn't are trolls.

Maybe you should read better before putting thast much effort into typing furiously
lmao
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:14 AM   #7122
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Stones has the best of everything: it's clean and non-smoking, it's in a decent location, damn good food, with an extremely friendly staff and player base.

Instead, running the live stream put them on the map.
I would agree with all of this. I used to live in Los Angeles and played on Live at the Bike with my wife a few times until they stopped running lower limit ($2/$3 and maybe $1/$2) games. It was a great way to analyze our play and improve.

The we moved to Monterey. I heard about Stones doing the live stream, and it was even better than LATB: lower limits and the players seemed to have much more fun. Except Stones is a 6-hour round-trip drive for us and they only do the streams on week days; no way we could we pull that off as we both work more than full time. We also have almost no reason to go to Sacramento for anything else.

Except one day I went to Sacramento on a Tuesday night after work because I had meetings with some legislators on Wednesday, and I went to check out Stones. Unfortunately not a stream night, which I was really hoping for, but at least I could play.

Beautiful place, amazing food (I had a massive but cheap plate of spaghetti and meatballs), the players were having fun and were friendly, and the staff seemed great as well; the dealer was joking around with the players but just between hands, not to the point where it affected the game, and he was still dealing better and faster than most dealers, and the floor somehow remembered my name over an hour after she had called it and I had sat down. I was thoroughly impressed.

The only other casino I hear about in that area is Thunder Valley, and that's because I listen to the Ante Up podcast, and they host tournaments there. However, I chose to go to Stones only because of the stream.

So yes, the stream is a huge advertisement for them.
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:37 AM   #7123
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Mike gets owned in this clip.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327032438?t=01h38m44s

What is going on in the clip below???
Lance or Taylor (I get them confused) come in with the computer while Justin is at the table to check something with the rfid. Everything on computer is seen, and I think we see a live feed. The commentator makes an odd comment that "That's my computer". Does that mean they shared computers when working? Mobile laptop is where everything to gain access is stored??? This video is important because we see how the poker software works for stones. Check it out below.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327032438?t=02h03m02s

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Old 10-10-2019, 06:57 AM   #7124
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My question since we have lawyers hanging around here is IF he didn't cheat, what recourse would Postle have for defamation? Was he a non public figure 1. when Veronica tweeted, 2. when joey posted his first video 3. now?
IF he didn't cheat, which he did, Mike Postle is a poker cheat and a tax cheat, but if he didn't then he could sue for defamation. You can't just go around accusing people of cheating or other misconduct when it isn't true. Being a public figure wouldn't matter in this case.

For example Lawrence O'Donnell had to retract a statement about Trump recently when lawyers sent him a letter threatening defamation because he was basically making stuff up about Trump getting loans with Russian oligarch co-signers and saying "If true" on national TV. MSM is a joke.
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:58 AM   #7125
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Hey guys, first time posting here in about 10 years. Mind is blown. Been playing poker for 15 years and haven't seen anything quite like this, well maybe pottripper. Can't believe I'm comparing GTO with CTO (crotch theory optimal aka what's the best line when my opponent's hole cards are in my crotch). I've invested 50+ hours into this so I'm pretty well informed.

I was watching Joey Ingram's stream last night until 3am, then woken up by the lead investigator in the criminal case at 8am. I've been in contact with them the last few days, mostly relaying a lot of the videos and posts here to them. Great job by the entire poker community minus Matasow on putting this whole case together. As of this morning, Postle has not been arrested. The investigating team still doesn't have all the evidence for criminal conviction although I sent them the 6 minute Berkey video + 33 minute GUMPNSTEIN video + blue phone screen shot all this morning, so we'll see if that changes anything.

We all know Postle is cheating, but we need 100% proof. I dissected the only 10-25-50nl game on Stones Live Poker today. Last night I had it playing while watching Ingram's stream and didn't think he was in God mode at all, but after dissecting it today, he's in God mode but only after 3:31:00. First hand in God mode is AQ. Sorry for being off about that in the chat last night. Crazy to watch though. He's almost for sure not in God mode and crushing the game the first 3 and a half hours, then decides to flip the switch. Also there's a guy standing behind him from 2:32:40 until 3:26:00, he tries to go into God mode at 3:26:29, but realizes the guy is still standing beside him, so it would look fishy, so he gets up, walks around, misses a hand, comes back and the guy isn't standing behind him any more and he's almost 100% in God mode for the next 45 minutes. Plays completely different than the first 3 and a half hours, lots of crotch staring. I'm sure there are other examples of this, but after watching this, its safe to assume that he's always switching back and forth between playing legit and God mode, it's not a consistent thing. Also when he's not in God mode, he's still pretty damn good. He plays a few strange hand like the 45 v Ac9c, QJ v QT, and open folds A8o on the button in the last 30 minutes of the stream. Its tough to determine if he's in God mode in these hands, or if he's content with running $5k up to $26k and doesn't want to make it any more obvious, puke. The reason why I was so curious about this stream is because it was after allegations were made, cell phones were banned and it said God mode on the spreadsheet you guys made, with hours of him clearly not being in God mode. I thought Stones and Postle might have tried to play clean on this stream, but nope, just a 3 and a half hour set up winning 10k on top of the 10k he was already up.

Also I think it's worth noting his play against "Augie" after watching this stream. This is pure speculation and I have no proof other than the way they play a few hands, its just weird. The 65 v TT, A4 v KT, AQ v J9, its all just really really weird, could be nothing, but worth noting. If anyone can confirm or deny this, LMK.

What the investigating team and I (can't believe I'm going to this length of investigation) are mostly looking for is proof of other stones employees in connection with Postle and more proof with the cell phone. Just encouraging you all to continue to work on this for criminal conviction. He (and connected stones employees) really deserves to be in jail for this and its nice to see so many people wanting to keep the game clean as you all have shown! If you want to contact me directly please PM me on twitter @PeterNeffPoker and please let me know if there is any new evidence I should look at, thanks! -Peter Neff

This is Augie.

I already responded you privately, but I'm just going to do it here as well, just to dissuade anyone from wasting time looking at me as a possible suspect. I did not know he was cheating and would never in a million years think to cheat myself.

The rationale for the weird lines I took?

65 vs. TT - He calls uber wide pre. Once he calls my flop bet on a 854r board, then donks the turn when an A hits I honestly feel like I'm behind 2p+, probably worse. If I flat turn, then I have an SPR of 1.3ish on the river, and I know he's capable of overbet jamming. I really didn't want to be in that situation.

A4 vs KT - I put a small 3b in (too small looking back), and completely brick. I had seen him be very sticky, and I didn't want to start building a big pot, with K high on a monotone board.

AQ va J9 - Okay preflop I open limp because I don't want to get 3B and have to fold. I'm very happy taking J9s to a single bet flop. Flop, I figure he's c-betting wide, and decide to apply pressure, he calls I'm not happy, but whatever I've seen him float bottom pair in the past. Once I spike the J and get checked to, I honestly feel I have the best hand. When he check-raise rips, I figure he has minimal showdown value and is trying to end this now, so I snap. And I was wrong.

So there you go. Take what you want from that. I'm happy to help in any way if anyone has other questions.

Just to add, there was one other hand that hasn't been mentioned that he plays with Berkey that I find interesting. It's the KK vs. AQ hand, where he check calls the whole way on a pretty safe board. Can't remember the time stamp, I have it annotated elsewhere.
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