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Old 10-08-2019, 11:45 PM   #6501
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https://youtu.be/9L6DueV9aHc?t=211
all in blind prelop b4 the stream to jump the stakes.........







It was well known to the stream that most players at the table would go all in blind preflop so that more money was on the table. This was great for more action, bigger pots, and for mike because the table was, “Match the stack”. Mike would then get more money on the table for the stream.

I know this because i saw various youtube videos describing this from stones players (vlogs etc...) if needed i could find them!
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:46 PM   #6502
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Oct 29, 2018, 59:18.

https://youtu.be/4ZoDSl6s8XU?t=3558

Mike is on his phone in plain sight when the hand is being dealt, then at some point is deposited into the crotch by the time everyone gets their cards. Mike has 78c and makes it $50 to go OTB after four limpers call his $10 straddle (1/2/3 game). Three players call and whiff the flop. Mike has total air, just a backdoor flush/straight draw. Mike stabs the $215 pot with a substantial $140 flop bet. Dave O has bottom pair of 3's (83o) with weak kicker and calls. Turn is a club and now 2 clubs on board. Dave O then leads into the ~$500 pot with a $364 allin bet with still just the bottom pair of 3's bad kicker, forcing The God to make a really close call, where he is not quite getting the right odds to call (believe he is getting about 2.35 to 1 on the call, but his equity is only ~28% even with additional pair outs (three 7's). But wait, oh ****, I forgot, a normal person wouldn't consider the 7 or 8 as outs with the Q and 9 onboard, but The God can't resist a fairly bad call even when he can see the equities, because he knows he's got that pair out too (three sevens-- an eight would give his opponent two pair), and **** I need to bust this fkn guy, how can I NOT call? I'm the GOD!

But DAVE O OWNS THE GOD ON THIS ONE, EVEN RUNNING THE RIVER TWICE!! Gotta love that outcome!!

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Old 10-08-2019, 11:48 PM   #6503
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But as much as I like Berkey's work I think that Soto dude is a bit of a low life worm. Especially they way he went after Veronica. Difficult life changing decision for her to bring this out and he has no clue. This guy sat in a car with her for "two hours" and expects her to pour out her heart. I have to call Soto up on his scummy part in the Berkey vlog.
way to harsh.

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Indeed a salty antisocial lowlife. Out of the dozen people that could have spoken up earlier he chose to attack the woman that did. While he could have brought his issue up in private he chose to publicly attack her. With any rational thinking he could have known it wasn’t easy to accuse a supposed friend of cheating. No better person than Mike the Apostle himself imo.
ridiculously harsh and embarrassing post. You and RR are acting like he did not get thrown in a entirely terrible situation? He is sitting with $20,000 of his own money .... do you understand how much that is in the poker world and how hard that is to make? This is not some 1/3 local game, its 10/25/50 or whatever and the stakes are relevant. And he is getting fed to the wolves (someone who veronica thought was likely cheating and never mentions it once in 120 minute car ride) and is quite angry about it. Understandable.

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That's kind of a straw man. She suspected Mike was cheating for a while but didn't say anything about it to Soto. If you're bringing someone to your cash game the least you can do is let them know that Swolenhat McCrotchstare is sketchy.
+1000. Easy to sit back on computer and criticize - dont even know Soto - just think the hate here is ridiculous.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:53 PM   #6504
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Lawdude, do you think with this civil lawsuit and all the points layed out in it, that it increases the chance of any criminal proceedings?
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:53 PM   #6505
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Guys I think I've found some video evidence of him having a bone conducting headset in his pure white hat.

I made a twitter thread with my findings here.

https://twitter.com/DanielSingerS/st...79445083820032
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:54 PM   #6506
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Very interesting case and can't wait to see the ending...One thing this case reminded me of- A few years ago I was working in a very open office environment (no cubicles - just desks lined up and everyone could see you). Toward the end of that job, I was very bored and was gambling on my phone, which would always be right in the crotch area, the perfect hiding spot.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:54 PM   #6507
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Well well...see what happens when we ask different people several of the same questions?
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:54 PM   #6508
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One thing people should think about is that unlike a lot of televised poker, where players are roped off, here there were all sorts of people allowed to come to the table, stand behind players, etc.

You will see tons of casino employees of course- food servers, cocktail waitresses, masseuses, floormen, substitute dealers, etc. But you will also see people who appear to be friends of the players on occasion.

And yes, sometimes these people are standing behind Postle for periods of time while he is playing hands and owning everyone.

Any one of these people might have caught a glimpse of Postle's phone or what he was doing. They are all potential witnesses. Many of them are identifiable on the videos.
Veronica on twitter says Mike was seen with a blue screen on his phone often.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Angry_Pol...97805380771840

Have other people playing or observing noticed the strange blue screen on phone?

See post #4642 in this thread.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:56 PM   #6509
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Lawdude, do you think with this civil lawsuit and all the points layed out in it, that it increases the chance of any criminal proceedings?
Most likely it's irrelevant to that probability. The government, in the end, either cares about this or they don't.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:56 PM   #6510
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The displayed amounts are not always correct and do not always reflect losses.
For example. I originally bought in for 500. got stacked. rebought for 500 and cashed out for 2000. So i made 1000. At the end of Stream They made it look as if the guys who bought in for the most were the biggest winners. That was not the case. I am 75 percent sure that I was the biggest winner on stream. With 100% ROI, though the game continued after the stream ended and turned into a way bigger game. I was not the biggest winner when all was said and done.
I hope thats clear ^
Did Mike play on the “much bigger” non streamed game?
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:57 PM   #6511
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Guys I think I've found some video evidence of him having a bone conducting headset in his pure white hat.

I made a twitter thread with my findings here.

https://twitter.com/DanielSingerS/st...79445083820032
Good work! Keep it up and keep researching!
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:57 PM   #6512
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I'd rather see a criminal complaint and not a civil complaint.

Whatever.
Since a lot of people are chiming in with expert analysis, I have some to offer when it comes to jail/prison time as a 14.5 year vet in corrections.

While it is common knowledge that there are A TON of variables when it comes to actual time served, even with sentencing guidelines in place, the average person doesn't understand just how varied the time served to the time sentenced can be. For instance, there is a person in my jail who operated his vehicle, while intoxicated, in a reckless manner and the mother of his child was run over, by him and killed. He was sentenced to a lengthy prison sentence but ordered to serve 1 year of work release as part of probationary conditions. (Thankfully he screwed that up and got an additional year and was removed from work release) I tell this to highlight the fact that while, if charged, Postle will certainly be sentenced to a lengthy prison stay, he may only serve jail time and not much at that. All of the depends on not just statues and sentencing guidelines but other factors like criminal history, quality of his attorney, or hell, even if the judge is having a bad day or not. That being said, mother****er is way guilty and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law available.

Long story short, the American criminal justice system sucks and I could rant about it for days.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:57 PM   #6513
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Guys I think I've found some video evidence of him having a bone conducting headset in his pure white hat.

I made a twitter thread with my findings here.

https://twitter.com/DanielSingerS/st...79445083820032
And another great post! Well done! Whether or not you believe the bone conductor is in there - similar idea to the gumpnstein video - Postle just has another behavior never really exhibited before - and he does it multiple times.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:00 AM   #6514
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way to harsh.


ridiculously harsh and embarrassing post. You and RR are acting like he did not get thrown in a entirely terrible situation? He is sitting with $20,000 of his own money .... do you understand how much that is in the poker world and how hard that is to make? This is not some 1/3 local game, its 10/25/50 or whatever and the stakes are relevant. And he is getting fed to the wolves (someone who veronica thought was likely cheating and never mentions it once in 120 minute car ride) and is quite angry about it. Understandable.


+1000
I understand his frustration and anger, but that in no way justifies taking it out on the one person that had enough guts to bring this to light. If not for her there would have been many more victims. The evidence was there for everyone to see and yet he chose to publicly confront the one and only person that spoke out in public. And what is a 2 hour car ride supposed to mean? Mike’s and her children were playing together and he knew this before publicly blaming her. He can and should have known that brings a burden to accusing him to others during car rides. And if he had understandable questions he should have had the decency to ask them in private without using a public forum. This is an unreasonable and antisocial person who can’t handle his frustration and I will avoid him just as much as I will Mike.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:08 AM   #6515
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Joey going live on youtube with more info in investigation series #9.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:11 AM   #6516
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So far, Mikes explanations for some questions has been

- I beat Durrrrr Headsup
- I like to softplay friends sometimes
- I like to play 'famous' hands of poker celebrities
- I soul read like no other (but loves looking at his crotch more)
- I have a daughter
- I dont like the limelight (but will play livestream poker)
- I am not that techy (contradicting basically his work services)

That poor defense lawyer....

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Old 10-09-2019, 12:11 AM   #6517
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Mac VerStandig shared this. Interesting that Kasey Lyn Mills is there; the commentator that many thought was in on it. Surely if she was she wouldn't file against them
Civil RICO .... interesting.

When I have time, I'll read the complaint .... but do note there are a boatload of plaintiffs, the restaurant must have been crowded the other night.

I like that the casino's lawyer was supposedly the investigator, nice way to make yourself a fact witness counselor and probably waive privilege .....Great Shades of Giuliani !!!

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:13 AM   #6518
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And another great post! Well done! Whether or not you believe the bone conductor is in there - similar idea to the gumpnstein video - Postle just has another behavior never really exhibited before - and he does it multiple times.
I never understood the importance of the hat stuffing thing. Headphones were allowed at that point in time. Is it your belief that it just adds to suspicious behavior?
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:14 AM   #6519
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I never understood the importance of the hat stuffing thing. Headphones were allowed at that point in time. Is it your belief that it just adds to suspicious behavior?
Phones and i assume headphones were banned at some point in early 2019. The exact timeframe is in a previous post.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:16 AM   #6520
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Evidence is super damning at this point. I dunno if its "court of law" damning though. Seems like the production manager was in on it too.

Lots of good work all around bringing this together
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:17 AM   #6521
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Phones and i assume headphones were banned at some point in early 2019. The exact timeframe is in a previous post.
They were banned very recently. Within the last month. Not sure if headphones are permitted currently or not. I would assume not. Havent played at stones since the controversy.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:18 AM   #6522
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Did Mike play on the “much bigger” non streamed game?
Is it possible that the cheating continued after the stream ended in the bigger off stream games? Previous poster stated he played in the game and mentioned the bigger game after the stream.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:21 AM   #6523
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Is it possible that the cheating continued after the stream ended in the bigger off stream games? Previous poster stated he played in the game and mentioned the bigger game after the stream.
I should be more clear. The game was the same limits but due to stack sizes was playing considerably bigger. If i remember correctly, when the stream ends they remove the RFID cards and sub standard decks. I only played one stream
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:21 AM   #6524
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Civil RICO .... interesting.

When I have time, I'll read the complaint .... but do note there are a boatload of plaintiffs, the restaurant must have been crowded the other night.

I like that the casino's lawyer was supposedly the investigator, nice way to make yourself a fact witness counselor and probably waive privilege .....Great Shades of Giuliani !!!

Stay tuned.
A lot of civil cases try to include RICO these days. It's the RICO provision that allows for treble/triple damages: albeit it's not easy to get a successful civil RICO judgment. Some of the women that sued Harvey Weinstein added civil RICO to their claim: can't recall how that one ended. Triple damages if successful is incentive enough to take a shot: a freeroll if you will.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:23 AM   #6525
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So far, Mikes explanations for some questions has been

- I beat Durrrrr Headsup
- I like to softplay friends sometimes
- I like to play 'famous' hands of poker celebrities
- I soul read like no other (but loves looking at his crotch more)
- I have a daughter
- I dont like the limelight (but will play livestream poker)
- I am not that techy (contradicting basically his work services)

That poor defense lawyer....

It's embarrassing to watch. If anyone is still making any effort to defend this guy, please, good God. Take a step back and think for a bit
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