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Old 10-08-2019, 09:47 PM   #6451
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Seeing as the SMFC stream is probably the most suspicious stream we have to work with in regards to who mikes accomplice(s) are, to those of you un aware the SMFC stream is a PLO stream where mike was cheating and was having trouble seeing all 4 cards.
Looks like you found close to what I found a few pages back.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=6007

100% Justin & Mike are texting eachother during the game.

This is important to recognize for the current timeline of the case now.
1000s of more HH's aren't going to CONVICT anyone at this point.
We need to focus on more provable evidence.
A player directly communicating with a working commentator in-between hands should be a red flag and in this instance is surely provable.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:51 PM   #6452
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2 more articles

"All told, any damages won by the plaintiffs will be distributed on a pro rata basis among the plaintiffs. Each plaintiff would be awarded a share based on the number of minutes he or he spent at the table during the 68 streamed sessions where cheating allegedly occurred. Lead attorney Verstandig himself participated in one of the streamed games but is barred from being one of the plaintiffs under state and federal law. Nonetheless, he brings first-hand knowledge of the streamed games to the proceedings."

https://www.vegasslotsonline.com/new...ed-by-players/

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2019/...suit-35621.htm

"Fortunately for them, a civil suit requires only "preponderance of evidence." That means the plaintiffs need only to show there is more than a 50% chance that the charges are true."
Hope Verstandig advised everyone to seek independent legal advice before entering into that agreement. Some of those plaintiffs may be giving up the right to greater amounts of damages by entering into that agreement (based on different theories, such as number of hands played against Postle, or size of pots against Postle, or whatever).
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:53 PM   #6453
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live streaming video with no delay at any given time, with the streamer possibly commenting in live chat, is way diff than premiering a pre-recorded and edited video premiering at a scheduled time while the person premiering the pre-recorded video comments over the pre-recorded video in the live chat.



I know it may be hard to grasp for you youngsters but us pushing 50 understand these things.

damn was hoping this was going to be live
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:57 PM   #6454
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Hmm i doubt its anything but the times Justin and or others are texting in the booth can we then go back 30 minutes in the livestream to see if that coincides with when mike is texting? Because remember the commentary is on a 30 minute delay from the live action. Actually im not sure this would work unless we are sure it is exactly a 30 minute delay.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:58 PM   #6455
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But as much as I like Berkey's work I think that Soto dude is a bit of a low life worm. Especially they way he went after Veronica. Difficult life changing decision for her to bring this out and he has no clue. This guy sat in a car with her for "two hours" and expects her to pour out her heart. I have to call Soto up on his scummy part in the Berkey vlog.
That's kind of a straw man. She suspected Mike was cheating for a while but didn't say anything about it to Soto. If you're bringing someone to your cash game the least you can do is let them know that Swolenhat McCrotchstare is sketchy.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:58 PM   #6456
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Looks like you found close to what I found a few pages back.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=6007

100% Justin & Mike are texting eachother during the game.

This is important to recognize for the current timeline of the case now.
1000s of more HH's aren't going to CONVICT anyone at this point.
We need to focus on more provable evidence.
A player directly communicating with a working commentator in-between hands should be a red flag and in this instance is surely provable.
Is this with a 30 minute delay added? Because remember the commentary isnt live its on a 30 minute delay from the action you see on screen.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:58 PM   #6457
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damn was hoping this was going to be live
yeah, yt started the premiering thing earlier this year. basically a better way for the channels to schedule at a time that they can interact with the chat over a recorded video and not be distracted versus chatting live while trying to record. if u are there live then he might be in the chat..... but the recording will be pre-recorded


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Old 10-08-2019, 10:01 PM   #6458
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yes i address the delay in my linked post.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:04 PM   #6459
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Hmm i doubt its anything but the times Justin and or others are texting in the booth can we then go back 30 minutes in the livestream to see if that coincides with when mike is texting? Because remember the commentary is on a 30 minute delay from the live action. Actually im not sure this would work unless we are sure it is exactly a 30 minute delay.
That's exactly what my hypothesis was and proved to be correct.
ex; Justin receives text on stream at 4:00:00, & Mike SENT text at 3:30:00 on stream. It's such an easy thing to prove, and it proved to be correct. Look at the post & links. Everything lines up PERFECTLY.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:04 PM   #6460
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

This may have been pointed out already, thread is moving fast.

It looked liked that PokerGFX WMV video stream URL that Berkey referenced in his latest video was not password protected. So if Stones has the streaming enabled within PokerGFX (eg what Berkey was showing in the config/setup), and also not password protected, and if it was on the general Stones casino WiFi, then likely anyone connected to the WiFi could access it if they knew the hostname/IP and URI (Eg the WMV URL).
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:06 PM   #6461
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If this isn't live, I'll be very confused.
The "premiere" feature on YouTube lets you debut a prerecorded video at a scheduled time. When it premieres, everyone watches together, live. Just like gathering around and watching TV. There is a chat box, just like there would be during a live stream, and usually the uploader participates there as well.

After the premiere, it can be viewed like a regular video.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:07 PM   #6462
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348363451?t=00h34m55s

Where is the best place to keep your phone? Under the ball....

Watch till 36 min and can clearly see the phone is on the chair when he stand up.

https://prnt.sc/pgppvr

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Old 10-08-2019, 10:08 PM   #6463
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Or if you are flying a decent airline, the flight attendants will hand them out and collect them. Or maybe that is if you are VIP or something.
You are thinking of normal declaration forms for entering the US. I am talking about making a declaration when leaving the US.

If you're on the plane, it's already too late and you broke the law.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:14 PM   #6464
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I'm just curious because there are a lot of things I don't know specifics of.
1: Does the public know the date of the original investigation by Stones? Any chance it was in November of 2018? Anything happen at all in regards to November of 2018?
The only date I recall being mentioned was March of this year (2019). I could be wrong, but I think that's when Veronica approached JFK with her suspicions. Her report about that should still be on her twitter/youtube (from recent times). [EDIT: March 22nd 2019, she discussed it in a message to Bart Hanson].
Kasey reportedly approached JFK even earlier.

Regarding November 2018, the spreadsheet that was posted earlier (but remains useful for armchair detectives) says:
Nov 7 2018: Godmode on.
Nov 21: Godmode on.
Nov 26: Uninvestigated fully, but phone was on the rail (not hidden).
Nov 28: Uninvestigated fully, but phone was hidden in lap.

For any other armchair sleuths, if you scroll to the right of the spreadsheet, you can see YouTube links if you want to go hunting for evidence on the lesser-studied sessions.

Nice work on your original videos, Gump, btw.

P.S. The phone "ban" apparently didn't happen until August 31st this year: https://twitter.com/yaadidit/status/1181073859807629312
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:17 PM   #6465
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Looks like you found close to what I found a few pages back.
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=mBTJkgd...autoplay=false

Use this to watch that stream, it should help you tremendously.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:17 PM   #6466
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Just wanted to say this is brilliant, glad you signed up to post it. "Douche canoes" amazing.
This might be my favorite post in this entire thread. Absolutely amazing. I'm going to forward this to him through FB messenger.

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Old 10-08-2019, 10:21 PM   #6467
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348363451?t=4h10m50s

Why nobody is talking about this hand?

It is so eerie because seems pretty obvious he already know what his opponent hole card are before villain shows. Listen to what he say when the turn comes 7c. His reaction was "Oh shxt" because 46s on villain hole card have a chance for runner runner. So disgusting and still laughing out loud there.


That hand is just so absurd from start to finish.
The hand selection the cnut decides to cheat with.
The praise he gets from the commentators.
Mikes reaction. Mikes reaction after that hand is sooo unbelievably cringy. Absolutely disgusting.
God damn I hope they get this mther fcker and that he gets locked away for many many years.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:23 PM   #6468
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The only date I recall being mentioned was March of this year (2019). I could be wrong, but I think that's when Veronica approached JFK with her suspicions. Her report about that should still be on her twitter/youtube (from recent times). [EDIT: March 22nd 2019, she discussed it in a message to Bart Hanson].
Kasey reportedly approached JFK even earlier.

Regarding November 2018, the spreadsheet that was posted earlier (but remains useful for armchair detectives) says:
Nov 7 2018: Godmode on.
Nov 21: Godmode on.
Nov 26: Uninvestigated fully, but phone was on the rail (not hidden).
Nov 28: Uninvestigated fully, but phone was hidden in lap.

For any other armchair sleuths, if you scroll to the right of the spreadsheet, you can see YouTube links if you want to go hunting for evidence on the lesser-studied sessions.

Nice work on your original videos, Gump, btw.

P.S. The phone "ban" apparently didn't happen until August 31st this year: https://twitter.com/yaadidit/status/1181073859807629312
Is that mean I found 1 on 12th Dec 2018? Because it can be clearly see that the phone he hide it under the ball and on the chair when he stands up.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:25 PM   #6469
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That hand is just so absurd from start to finish.
The hand selection the cnut decides to cheat with.
The praise he gets from the commentators.
Mikes reaction. Mikes reaction after that hand is sooo unbelievably cringy. Absolutely disgusting.
God damn I hope they get this mther fcker and that he gets locked away for many many years.
I am too late on this maybe because I thought nobody talking about this hand. I am watching all the video now in normal mode and see if can spot anything.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:28 PM   #6470
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The only date I recall being mentioned was March of this year (2019). I could be wrong, but I think that's when Veronica approached JFK with her suspicions. Her report about that should still be on her twitter/youtube (from recent times). [EDIT: March 22nd 2019, she discussed it in a message to Bart Hanson].
Kasey reportedly approached JFK even earlier.

Regarding November 2018, the spreadsheet that was posted earlier (but remains useful for armchair detectives) says:
Nov 7 2018: Godmode on.
Nov 21: Godmode on.
Nov 26: Uninvestigated fully, but phone was on the rail (not hidden).
Nov 28: Uninvestigated fully, but phone was hidden in lap.

For any other armchair sleuths, if you scroll to the right of the spreadsheet, you can see YouTube links if you want to go hunting for evidence on the lesser-studied sessions.

Nice work on your original videos, Gump, btw.

P.S. The phone "ban" apparently didn't happen until August 31st this year: https://twitter.com/yaadidit/status/1181073859807629312
Since at this point I’m most interested in who John Doe 1 is, I’m also interested in Gump’s Q, and also only saw what ArtyMcFly found - March 2019 was when the first concerns were raised.

But the lawsuit states, JD1 “Took steps to allay suspicions and concerns regarding Mr. Postle’s cheating so as to allow the same conduct to continue in an unabated manner for a protracted period of time in excess of one year.”

Maybe this writing is intended to read that the cheating could’ve been stopped 6 months in (& that’s just not clear to me) - which I suspect is the most likely answer - but if Mike P didn’t turn on godmode until July/August 2018, it does make me curious if concerns were raised back in Sept 2018 by anyone.

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Old 10-08-2019, 10:31 PM   #6471
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I am too late on this maybe because I thought nobody talking about this hand. I am watching all the video now in normal mode and see if can spot anything.

https://youtu.be/VuBerIx8e1M?t=3329

(Timestamped)

Dougs reaction to Postles reaction is great when they reviewed it
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:37 PM   #6472
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https://youtu.be/VuBerIx8e1M?t=3329

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Dougs reaction to Postles reaction is great when they reviewed it
Thanks for sharing.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348363451?t=00h39m25s

This 1 also nice. He is swiping the phone with his left hand under the lap again before making decision.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:42 PM   #6473
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Is that mean I found 1 on 12th Dec 2018? Because it can be clearly see that the phone he hide it under the ball and on the chair when he stands up.
If he's cheating in that session, sure. I think the people doing the spreadsheets rarely post in the thread, but they might be interested in what you found.

You actually found some remarkable footage. Mike walks around for a full 90 seconds without his phone: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348363451?t=00h35m26s
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:45 PM   #6474
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But as much as I like Berkey's work I think that Soto dude is a bit of a low life worm. Especially they way he went after Veronica. Difficult life changing decision for her to bring this out and he has no clue. This guy sat in a car with her for "two hours" and expects her to pour out her heart. I have to call Soto up on his scummy part in the Berkey vlog.
Indeed a salty antisocial lowlife. Out of the dozen people that could have spoken up earlier he chose to attack the woman that did. While he could have brought his issue up in private he chose to publicly attack her. With any rational thinking he could have known it wasn’t easy to accuse a supposed friend of cheating. No better person than Mike the Apostle himself imo.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:46 PM   #6475
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If he's cheating in that session, sure. I think the people doing the spreadsheets rarely post in the thread, but they might be interested in what you found.

You actually found some remarkable footage. Mike walks around for a full 90 seconds without his phone: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348363451?t=00h35m26s
Yeah, when he come back after just couple minutes, can clearly see he is swiping his phone under his lap with his left hand before making decision. So it is obvious that phone always hiding there.
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