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Old 10-01-2019, 03:01 PM   #501
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You’re correct that if there is cheating, it has to be a simple relay between someone with access to BOTH the rfid information and the video feed.
I'm not sure if you are trying to say something I'm not picking up on, but the people who get the rfid information are the ones who MAKE the video feed. There are people sitting in a room who all get the info and use it to create the video feed. All of them can see the feed in real time.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:03 PM   #502
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I'm not sure if you are trying to say something I'm not picking up on, but the people who get the rfid information are the ones who MAKE the video feed. There are people sitting in a room who all get the info and use it to create the video feed. All of them can see the feed in real time.
He gets it, he keeps trying to misdirect because he thinks everyone around him is an idiot it's easy to pull the wool over their eyes.

Hmm, a bit like the subject of this thread, really! Must be a coincidence.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:03 PM   #503
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I hope people are looking into making recordings/backups of any stones live games that are currently online. Before long, I would imagine they will be pulled to get rid of a heap of evidence with liability for the casino in play here...
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:05 PM   #504
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The RFID errors are another heap of BS...

He magically has the nuts everytime it looks way too suspect of a play. That 89 hand was a joke. I'd be looking at whoever's is in charge of saying he had 89 instead of 86
This. Thishitshithisithsitihsithis. Seriously. Extremely likely that the person who fed the commentators that information is the culprit together with Mike.

edit: Adding it into this post as well, for more viewage: Mike Postle is facebook friends with half the tech production of that show. He's friends with Kuraitis who seems to have ran the "investigation" into this and vehemently denies anything having taken place

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Old 10-01-2019, 03:05 PM   #505
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I hope people are looking into making recordings/backups of any stones live games that are currently online. Before long, I would imagine they will be pulled to get rid of a heap of evidence with liability for the casino in play here...
I’d suggest that would indicate an admission of guilt
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:07 PM   #506
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Personally, I’m just angry that a guy is so much of a donk that he thinks people can swallow the livereads excuse to the nth degree. Because that’s what he thinks people perceive poker strategy to be, just a ton of livereads.

Its just like, he’s such a BAD cheater lmao. If you are going to cheat at least impress me with how well disguised it is.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:07 PM   #507
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I’d suggest that would indicate an admission of guilt
It doesn't matter. Pulling the videos down will make it a lot more difficult to analyze further abnormalities and discussion would start to die down due to lack of evidence.

The casino would want to do this even if they have no idea what actually happened, just from a legal standpoint. Imo, of course.

Casino will pull vids and say "we are investigating. Will report results." Crickets will be heard for next 6 months after which they will say they found nothing actionable.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:08 PM   #508
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I’d suggest that would indicate an admission of guilt
Would definitely look guilty, but they could for sure go with the "There's been a lot of controversy, we don't want to assist in slandering someone's name without proof" claim
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:09 PM   #509
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It doesn't matter. Pulling the videos down will make it a lot more difficult to analyze further abnormalities and discussion would start to die down due to lack of evidence.

The casino would want to do this even if they have no idea what actually happened, just from a legal standpoint. Imo, of course.
we should def start downloading as many streams with mike playing as we can then
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:10 PM   #510
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A lot of crimes go unsolved. It doesn't mean they weren't investigated properly, nor does it mean that wrongdoing did not occur.

Dude, you're clutching at straws. Also, interesting that a network security engineer with a zero-day account would suddenly pop up in this thread from its inception to throw doubt on the accusations. Maybe someone should investigate that.
So now the casino exec management is involved in the coverup? Are you insane?
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:11 PM   #511
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Do you HONESTLY think Stones is going to admit, hey we investigated and found out we have allowed a cheater(s) to play for the past year and win hundreds of thousands of dollars? (Yes, I think there’s more than one player that’s guilty)

No. They would NOT admit anything. Use some damm logic. Please.

They would never admit to finding anything. Ever.

The StonesLive should be shut down until another production company is in charge.

Postle isn’t the only HUGE winner up there. Just start watching and you’ll see
Someone needs to take a look at Final Table streams?..If production crew is in on this..those are the big gets, without having to expose yourself multiple times a week on stream
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:12 PM   #512
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So now the casino exec management is involved in the coverup? Are you insane?
Casino management is probably not involved. Some schmoe in the RFID room, is.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:12 PM   #513
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100% there is going to be litigation, rest assured, everyone remotely involved with those games is lurking on this thread and soliciting legal advice or muscle
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:13 PM   #514
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So now the casino exec management is involved in the coverup? Are you insane?
Dude, nobody has a clue exactly how this happened. Stop trying to make us responsible for figuring out every detail to an unfolding scandal.

All we know is that the videos show highly suspicious activity, and there should be further investigating done. Cheating looks very likely. The fact that you are demanding full explanations from an online forum is absurd.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:15 PM   #515
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This certainly looks suspicious, but is there a way we can prove with certainty that he was indeed cheating short of a confession by him or his accomplice? Everyone loves a witch hunt, but in the case that we are wrong, the consequences are quite brutal for the accused.

The hands in which he made some sick play are all “evidence” but are we glossing over hands where he got owned? Can we post some hands where he got owned, if they exist?

If few to none exist over hours of stream, then... sorry Mike. You’re screwed.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:17 PM   #516
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Having a hard time deciding who are dumber -- the people who think there's a chance this isn't cheating or Mike and his conspirators for thinking they could cheat, so brazenly, on film (!!!) without getting caught.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:17 PM   #517
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This certainly looks suspicious, but is there a way we can prove with certainty that he was indeed cheating short of a confession by him or his accomplice? Everyone loves a witch hunt, but in the case that we are wrong, the consequences are quite brutal for the accused.

The hands in which he made some sick play are all “evidence” but are we glossing over hands where he got owned? Can we post some hands where he got owned, if they exist?
You need to read more and watch Joey's podcast. There isn't any hands of him getting owned, very few where he even makes an incorrect fold. A couple of times someone hero calls him and he loses, but his big bluff is usually extremely well timed.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:18 PM   #518
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Btw I made that original post in this thread when there was one 18 minute video which I thought was like, a compilation of the cherry picked worst hands he played. Based on those assumptions, I thought it was unclear whether he was a cheater.

Since then, hundreds of hours worth of evidence has come out that proves without a shadow of a doubt that this guy cheated 100% (in my opinion), and for me there is absolutely no other explanation. Just wanted to clarify that.
Good to see as you were the only intelligent poster I saw who defended him as I scanned through the pages quickly to catch up.

I initially dismissed following this as I figured no one is stupid enough to cheat on a live stream where all the hands are stored on the internet for all of time!

Just imagine how long he could've milked this if he had any reasonable level of intelligence...he has: support of broadcasters, support of event organizer, support of droolers whatching the livestream, support of local players...ALL he had to do was mix in a few losing sessions a year on stream and a handful of medium size lost pots and this could've gone on for years.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:18 PM   #519
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So now the casino exec management is involved in the coverup? Are you insane?
Dude you’re the only one still defending Mike.
On twitter respectable high stakes pro’s are saying that Mike has to be cheating.
Drop the act. You’re not fooling anyone.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:19 PM   #520
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This certainly looks suspicious, but is there a way we can prove with certainty that he was indeed cheating short of a confession by him or his accomplice? Everyone loves a witch hunt, but in the case that we are wrong, the consequences are quite brutal for the accused.

The hands in which he made some sick play are all “evidence” but are we glossing over hands where he got owned? Can we post some hands where he got owned, if they exist?

If few to none exist over hours of stream, then... sorry Mike. You’re screwed.
The only hands i've seen from joeys 5 hour stream / from joeys 25+ hrs of personal viewing where he got 'owned' are when he shoves big on river and a super marginal hand that you would expect to always fold ends up calling him. None where he calls a big bet and is wrong , or bluffs into a strong hand.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:19 PM   #521
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Do people actually believe he might be liable for the money he won even if more evidence emerges? I don’t think Potripper was ever found liable in court despite being proved a cheater

Civil cases for fraud without contracts are almost as hard to get a reasonable verdict on as it is to collect the money from a judgment on an individual like this and neither are very likely.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:19 PM   #522
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This certainly looks suspicious, but is there a way we can prove with certainty that he was indeed cheating short of a confession by him or his accomplice? Everyone loves a witch hunt, but in the case that we are wrong, the consequences are quite brutal for the accused.

The hands in which he made some sick play are all “evidence” but are we glossing over hands where he got owned? Can we post some hands where he got owned, if they exist?

If few to none exist over hours of stream, then... sorry Mike.
You’re screwed.
He's acting like a guilty person besides the hands and crotch gazing...deleting linkedin...tweets

He posted him calling a $40 river bet to try exonerate himself

Coupled him helping on the tech side of things at Stones? Come on now. This guy is just incredibly greedy and also stupid not giving himself any cover-up outs.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:20 PM   #523
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So now the casino exec management is involved in the coverup? Are you insane?
I, like everyone else here, has no clue what's going on, what went on, or what will go on, but I think it's important to point out that being involved in a crime and being involved in the coverup are two very different things. It's not unheard of for a person or enterprise to try to cover something up that they weren't a party to to prevent the loss of money or bad press.
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:20 PM   #524
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In fact, he is correct so often I am almost talking myself into him just being super lucky/GOD bc it is so ridiculous to me that anyone is dumb enough to think they could cheat this blatantly and not eventually get caught.

Regardless, hilarious situation
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Old 10-01-2019, 03:22 PM   #525
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This has been mentioned but just want to document it for anyone that missed what his own brother said about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4dHt8yhhXuk

Commentator: I wanna go back to the wheel of destiny.

Mike Postle brother: The wheel ... so....there is always different things. So usually you spin this wheeel for 50 cents or 1 dollar, so my brother had the wheel perfectly lined up and my brother put some quarters behind the wheel....so when you would spin it you would always get close to a $5 bill. So most of time when you rolled, like 90% of time it would stop just before the $5 dollar. And he would say "oo you were so close". And it would be the worst prize ever, so my brother would win half the winnings from what it gave out so my brother would make $30-40 bucks . So if there is an angle -- -my brother would do it. He will do it.

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At this point its getting unbelievable that people are capable of still defending this super user. They either have not taken enough time to examine the evidence in aggregate or have malicious intentions in protecting this scumbag cheater.
Everyone watch the video linked above where Mike's own brother tells a story of him cheating and rigging a gambling wheel. Once a cheater, always a cheater!

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Also a poker consultant? Mike Postle? Suspicious that a new account has so much interest in defending such obvious cheating. Can you explain why Mike Postle would delete his linkedin saying he's a poker consultant?

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So now the casino exec management is involved in the coverup? Are you insane?
The question you should ask is would it be in their interest to cover up wrongdoing by Mike Postle whether or not they are involved? Certainly, yes. It would limit their liability and would maintain their reputation.

I suspect the Maxeth account is actually Mike Postle or someone else involved in this cheating scandal at this point. Or just a buffoon.
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