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Old 10-07-2019, 02:00 AM   #5126
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look at him all angry here trying to signal or talk to the camera. i think has to do with people changing seats or asking him
This needs more love, look at him gesturing towards the booth and how upset he is.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:01 AM   #5127
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I am told Stones Live peak/cards room had no lock on it up until very recently and was able to be accessed by anyone at anytime if desired to. VLOGGER Jaman talked about getting his backpack out of there after hours once everyone was gone w/ no one stopping him. He also would keep his backpack in there throughout play/commentating.
Ok, game over. Good luck with that in court.

You wonder why they were so brazen, cheating in the middle of a live broadcast! But if this is really the security in place there, I'm sure they thought: they can never pin this on us, since even basic physical access security is not in place.

Just waiting to hear "Admin123" and "Password123" was on a yellow sticky note stuck to one of the monitors in the control room.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:03 AM   #5128
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I'm told there was a football game on at this moment and we know Mike loves to sports bet and play DFS. We can trace the time this took place to see if a big play took place.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:04 AM   #5129
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:06 AM   #5130
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This needs more love, look at him gesturing towards the booth and how upset he is.
He is looking at a TV rooting for sports i think

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Old 10-07-2019, 02:08 AM   #5131
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The commentary is filmed half an hour after the action you see at the poker table.
Not necessarily, people who played there have claimed that there has been times where the commentary is being done in real time and even showing live no delay in the main lobby by a mistake. Joey has stated this claim before in one of his streams. Im not saying its happeing here 100% but its something to consider.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:09 AM   #5132
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I'm told there was a football game on at this moment and we know Mike loves to sports bet and play DFS. We can trace the time this took place to see if a big play took place.
Have any of the Postle supporters you’ve been in contact with changed their tune?

Are you still getting messages or communicating with anyone supporting him after so much damning evidence has come to light?

Also thanks for everything you’ve done man, it’s been awesome to see.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:14 AM   #5133
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Does any 2 plus 2 investigators want to review if we are missing any streams? I mean in the sense that stones used twitch and youtube. I know they were banned from streaming on youtube for several months. Are we missing any live streams from twitch?
During the time they were banned from youtube they were still aloud to upload the streams. They just couldn't stream it live from youtube. This is confirmed by justin in one of the streams.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:15 AM   #5134
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Mike Matusow defending this guy and suggesting that it is even possible he wasn't cheating is one of the most tilting things I have ever heard. Joey was far too kind to "the mouth"...WP for showing so much restraint tho.
Granted it's tough to hear the Mouth try and carry on a conversation; I believe he's articulated pretty consistently that he doesn't want to say MP is guilty or innocent. I don't believe that's the same thing as defending MP.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:19 AM   #5135
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This entire situation is tilting me so hard... Even though I never played with the guy just the thought of how this is going to potentially impact things going forward. The way the announcers just made a mockery of the game and so many armature and even pro players. The entire situation is so sad.

I think some people are also just so eager to play on a stream for the brag points that they don't take into consideration the integrity of the games.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:21 AM   #5136
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Yikes AK fold with K84 on the board after shove by short stack , I’m convinced
THe amount of justifying the commentary guy does and the way he predicts postle's inevitable laydowns kind of does make me question the situation...of course postle does lay down pretty much whenever he's beat, he's a god, this is INDISPUTABLE...so he does.

Eh doug is saying the same thing I guess.

I mean on the other hand they're always justifying postle's correct moves because they can pretty much predict postle is always going to act like he has perfect information on his opponent, or he can read their strength or weakness in the hand and justify making the correct decision.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:24 AM   #5137
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Just think how many streams and hands we have not even uncovered yet. We are talking 400 hours of poker to go through

That gives me hope that we find the smoking gun in unwatched footage
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:26 AM   #5138
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The sickeest thing about postle being the greatest live person reader of all time is how little effort he seems to put it into it. Yes, yes, he is often looking at his phallus-phone instead of picking up live reads, but usually it just seems like he knows he's beat straight off, there's not intense interpersonal stare downs or anything, he simply knows. He picks up the reads on instinct, by near instantaneous microexpressions perhaps. Pheromones maybe. He doesn't even have instincts, he's another thing altogeter, like the predator.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:28 AM   #5139
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This entire situation is tilting me so hard... Even though I never played with the guy just the thought of how this is going to potentially impact things going forward. The way the announcers just made a mockery of the game and so many armature and even pro players. The entire situation is so sad.

I think some people are also just so eager to play on a stream for the brag points that they don't take into consideration the integrity of the games.
The vast majority of live casino poker players do not even have the opportunity to play in televised/streamed games. Going forward; this "problem" will not affect the vast majority of live players.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:30 AM   #5140
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The vast majority of live casino poker players do not even have the opportunity to play in televised/streamed games. Going forward; this "problem" will not affect the vast majority of live players.
Even non-streamed play, the thought of cheating in a pokergame in the middle of a stream in a casino? people may wonder whats going on in a game that isn't streamed.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:30 AM   #5141
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During the time they were banned from youtube they were still aloud to upload the streams. They just couldn't stream it live from youtube. This is confirmed by justin in one of the streams.

You know what i actually wonder if they were really banned or if its possible they only streamed on twitch to keep a lower profile on this cheating. So weird. How can you be banned but still have streams uploaded?

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Old 10-07-2019, 02:31 AM   #5142
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That gives me hope that we find the smoking gun in unwatched footage
Not sure you need one.

The cat is out the bag and halfway round the globe. (IF) the guy cheated, and others colluded, they are all going down.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:31 AM   #5143
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Good catch. There is something with the commentators which do not make any sense at all (overall on all videos posted). Even with limited knowledge of poker there is no excuse. Must be more to this than only a one man show.
This is the thing about this investigation that baffles me the most.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:34 AM   #5144
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The vast majority of live casino poker players do not even have the opportunity to play in televised/streamed games. Going forward; this "problem" will not affect the vast majority of live players.
I bet a big % of live players also got hooked into poker probably from watching it on TV. This scandal could hurt the FUTURE of poker pretty hard imo.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:36 AM   #5145
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Even non-streamed play, the thought of cheating in a pokergame in the middle of a stream in a casino? people may wonder whats going on in a game that isn't streamed.
Well, if the cheating is due in large part to RFID enabled decks; a non-streamed game (I would imagine) does not utilize RFID enabled decks. Put another way; perhaps most regular folks will see that RFID decks created a way for someone to cheat: so long as their game doesn't have RFID enabled decks (which is probably the case for almost all live casino poker games) it really isn't a realistic concern. So to answer your question, most logical people will conclude that since "my game" doesn't utilize RFID enabled decks, "my game" doesn't share the same risk as a streamed game.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:41 AM   #5146
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I bet a big % of live players also got hooked into poker probably from watching it on TV. This scandal could hurt the FUTURE of poker pretty hard imo.
It's not 2005. There really isn't alot of poker on TV to get people hooked on it. And no, PokerGo or a stream on Youtube is not the same thing as watching poker on TV, just my opinion. I think, especially on 2+2 where a good portion of members probably have a PokerGo subscription, the reality is somewhat blurred: the reality being that most regular folks don't even know about PokerGo, let alone would be willing to pay to watch poker.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:44 AM   #5147
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Well, if the cheating is due in large part to RFID enabled decks; a non-streamed game (I would imagine) does not utilize RFID enabled decks. Put another way; perhaps most regular folks will see that RFID decks created a way for someone to cheat: so long as their game doesn't have RFID enabled decks (which is probably the case for almost all live casino poker games) it really isn't a realistic concern. So to answer your question, most logical people will conclude that since "my game" doesn't utilize RFID enabled decks, "my game" doesn't share the same risk as a streamed game.
You are thinking about this logically. I agree with him saying this will hurt the game and think this is bigger than most people think. To average person they aren't going to look into much at all. Average person is going to see that people are willing to cheat on a game that is live streamed. They aren't going to think well if im not on a live stream im fine. They are going to assume if its happening there its gotta be going on everywhere. A ton of public are going to see this as look you cant even trust a game that is being streamed what game can you trust.

I had a guy tell me wsop.com in the us is rigged. I asked him what his proof is he told me to look up potripper. I don't think he was trolling either. He went on how if happened back then its probably going on here today. Not mention hes a huge fish on the site so doubt it was a troll.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:45 AM   #5148
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New video I hadn't seen before an hour ago. Mike's psychic ability transferred over to the commentator. I guess if you are running production you can cheat in anyway you see fit.
https://youtu.be/TCWKn9scH9w
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:45 AM   #5149
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You know what i actually wonder if they were really banned or if its possible they only streamed on twitch to keep a lower profile on this cheating. So weird. How can you be banned but still have streams uploaded?
Seriously? It's well documented that other poker content creators on YouTube were having videos taken down awhile back.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:51 AM   #5150
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You are thinking about this logically. I agree with him saying this will hurt the game and think this is bigger than most people think. To average person they aren't going to look into much at all. Average person is going to see that people are willing to cheat on a game that is live streamed. They aren't going to think well if im not on a live stream im fine. They are going to assume if its happening there its gotta be going on everywhere. A ton of public are going to see this as look you cant even trust a game that is being streamed what game can you trust.

I had a guy tell me wsop.com in the us is rigged. I asked him what his proof is he told me to look up potripper. I don't think he was trolling either. He went on how if happened back then its probably going on here today. Not mention hes a huge fish on the site so doubt it was a troll.
I guess I have more faith than you in the logical/critical thinking abilities of the average person
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