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Old 10-06-2019, 11:44 PM   #5051
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24:30 We can see mike phone turn on with a big blue screen as he gets up. Does that all blue screen mean anything with regards to obs, the stream setup, the live feed, or etc....?

Because it clearly isn't a regular homescreen. Could the all blue be the background to the software that shows the hole cards? Anyone zoom in on that blue screen, it almost looks like a line of text towards the top? I need you 2 plus 2 detectives to zoom in and .25 speed that video frame by frame LETS GO. 24:30

https://youtu.be/WaWPHGvuqDg?t=1461
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This is the best frame of it:

Just wanted to repost this one time.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:44 PM   #5052
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In the web chat with Doug (goat) and Joe, Doug kept telling Joe to stop with the G_d thing... was disappointed to seen Doug start in with that too...
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:45 PM   #5053
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Hey bud, dusting off my ancient account to tell you that based on your comment I can tell you don’t/haven’t played much poker. I’ve played 18k+ hours of live poker and I actually play. I don’t nit it up and wait for aces. I’ve played a dozen or so live streams with Postle and before I found out he was cheating I thought we had this super meta dynamic(that you clearly wouldn’t understand). If you knew anything about ranges you’d know that I’m pretty much the only one her that can rep 98 AND I have a blocker. Two pair+ HAS to fold to this river raise. Also based on our dynamic Postle could be bluffing, in which case this river raise is god damn perfect.

But besides that, what is your screen name? I didn’t have more, I had $735 left in my stack after I raised river because I personally think that looks 100x stronger than jamming. If you have any other comments or concerns feel free to contact my secretary and I’ll get back to you in Q3 of 2020.

Cheers

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it doesn't look stronger than jamming though, it looks weaker, you would and you should be jamming 98, same with 96, don't dislike the bluff but at least use correct sizings

that said it doesn't really matter vs postle lol
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:47 PM   #5054
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I have to repost this, because I've yet to see a single defense of it, or even acknowledgement of it, and I shudder to think that well-meaning people who might be friends of Postle might put their entire reputations on the line to defend this scumbag who gives no shits about you because he's probably a sociopath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1UjP-UpX8

This is confirmed guilt in the court of common sense. This is my second time begging for another explanation. Haven't received one. Weird. Might be because there isn't. If you watch the whole video closely and have an unbiased mind, you'll never hard-defend him again. You won't, and you can't. It's too absurdly and laughably obvious that something fishy is happening.
Because that hands already been brough up multiple times before you. I mean Doug Polk made a video on it it’s been talked about plenty.

Nobody is offering an explanation cause there isn’t one, he’s cheating.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:52 PM   #5055
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I have to repost this, because I've yet to see a single defense of it, or even acknowledgement of it, and I shudder to think that well-meaning people who might be friends of Postle might put their entire reputations on the line to defend this scumbag who gives no shits about you because he's probably a sociopath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1UjP-UpX8

This is confirmed guilt in the court of common sense. This is my second time begging for another explanation. Haven't received one. Weird. Might be because there isn't. If you watch the whole video closely and have an unbiased mind, you'll never hard-defend him again. You won't, and you can't. It's too absurdly and laughably obvious that something fishy is happening.
It’s hasn’t been acknowledged because it has been posted before and there or dozens of hands like that. That you don’t receive any explanation isn’t weird because his guilt isn’t up for debate anymore and nobody is still defending him.

Feel free to post hands, but don’t be offended, surprised or feel the need to repost when you don’t get a reaction because there are so many more.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:52 PM   #5056
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I think a better analogy would be football.

Imagine an NFL defense calls the right defense 100% of the time. Not just calling a run defense against a run, but stacking the exact planned run route with 3 defenders. Double and triple coverage on every primary receiving route. Never once going after a running back on a play-action. Figuring out every single trick play.

Calling the exact right defense once or twice wouldn't raise eyebrows, because it's possible to be right. But doing it for every play of an entire game or entire season is impossible. The only way you could do that is if you had the offenses play calls, just like Postle had access to hole cards.
Doesn't Tony Romo already do this?

Just kidding...like this analogy and why not quote it.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:57 PM   #5057
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I thought the SVP basketball reference was fine.
Is it a perfect analogy? No, but it doesn’t have to be.
It was just a quick line for people who don’t know much about poker to put it in terms they can understand and relate to.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:59 PM   #5058
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I am reading Malcolm Gladwell's Talking to Strangers right now and there are so many parallels in the first half of his book, to the extended saga of people finally coming forward to accuse and expose Mike.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:59 PM   #5059
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It’s hasn’t been acknowledged because it has been posted before and there or dozens of hands like that. That you don’t receive any explanation isn’t weird because his guilt isn’t up for debate anymore and nobody is still defending him.

Feel free to post hands, but don’t be offended, surprised or feel the need to repost when you don’t get a reaction because there are so many more.
It's not about the hand itself. I get the feeling you didn't actually watch it to the end. What Doug points out about the end is one of the most damning things you could ever see without it being hard evidence. It's truly ridiculous.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:59 PM   #5060
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I have to repost this, because I've yet to see a single defense of it, or even acknowledgement of it, and I shudder to think that well-meaning people who might be friends of Postle might put their entire reputations on the line to defend this scumbag who gives no shits about you because he's probably a sociopath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1UjP-UpX8

This is confirmed guilt in the court of common sense. This is my second time begging for another explanation. Haven't received one. Weird. Might be because there isn't. If you watch the whole video closely and have an unbiased mind, you'll never hard-defend him again. You won't, and you can't. It's too absurdly and laughably obvious that something fishy is happening.
First off, I agree this is tres-weird.

To defend this in a vacuum, I would say......MP knew ANY call beat him.

So, as soon as the guy MAKES the call, Mike is upset. Now Mike has to a: turn his cards over and b. wait for OPP to do the same.....this takes ~~2 seconds

Since there is no sound, and no accompanying facial expression on MP, Maybe MP knows that since he is beat, he is going to flail his arms ANYWAY and make a 'joking' comment about OMG you called me with THAT!" whether it was quads, a boat, or almost nothing.

That to me is the only OTHER explanation. I don't BELIEVE the explanation I gave, but it IS an explanation.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:07 AM   #5061
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It was my first week in Sac when that hand happened.
No one invited me, I knew they had a stream and that was my 2nd or 3rd session.
Mike has been in nearly every stream I’ve played.
I didn’t think anything was shady, all I thought was “man this guy owns me in every spot”
Although when I rewatched the stream the next day and I saw they corrected his hand to 98ss, I thought it was yet another mistake because I’m 100% sure I saw a diamond when he mucked his hand mid air.
Joey get this kid on your stream asap. I think going over more hands that are all similiar is repetitive at this point. Not just saying this to boost him up either but he was clearly one of the top 5 players from the footage ive seen and was willing to make plays and the hands were justified lines and not just pile air and hope. I also would love to hear from veronica as well. I wan't to know like many others if she has found other employment. Also curious if she was fired or quit over this instant weather she has legal recourse of any kind.

Either way think you need to keep the stream going. I know my girlfriend is sick of sleeping to your voice. I never thought shed tell me she had a dream about you and have that not be weird or cause some red flags.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:09 AM   #5062
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I'm trying to be as open minded as possible while also enjoying myself over 20+ hours of live streaming while staring at ****ing Mike Postles face and watching him stare at his crotch while destroying people left and right. I wasn't convinced until I heard the interview w/ Mike the Mouth. The plays he makes are still God like and it's easy to see why.

Everyone has their own approach to how things should be. The guy will remain a god of poker or out of line for the rest of my life.
Joey - you weren’t convinced Postle was cheating until Postle’s interview with Mike?
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:11 AM   #5063
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I love that Postle not only wanted to steal money, but also wanted to steal the valor that comes with being a crusher. The theft of latter is what really blew the lid off his operation.

Narcissism is a helluva drug.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:11 AM   #5064
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I doubt that anyone can replicate that all blue screen that was posted earlier ITT on an iPhone. He’s ripping data from a rigged deck. It’s the most common way to cheat. In all the videos I have observed there are FOUR different keyfobs in the last 10 months. He has rfid rippers in that little black bracelet (freezeframe 2:10:15 in investigation vid #4) and the keys . When he’s not cheating with the keys he leaves the infinit keys that are real on the table when he has the bracelet. These rippers relay hole cards to his headset and/or phone . There are multiple methods, (why would you always do it the same way) Honesty it’s much simpler than everyone thinks.
Oh really? If it's so simple then explain how it works. Post some video that shows how holding a keyfob or bracelet 10 feet from the deck is able to read every card in the correct order with perfect accuracy. Post some hands that shows he doesn't just have knowledge of hole cards but of board runouts as well.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:12 AM   #5065
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:13 AM   #5066
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this just goes to show its really hard to out right prove someone is cheating even when its as obvious as postle and the commentators that are in on it.

i think if he was cheating by himself he would be more willing to lose some pots but since they are all most likely taking a cut ,you have instances where the commentators are making cases for mike to make impossible folds and bluffs rather than just taking a lose to atleast make a mild effort to look legitimate .
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:13 AM   #5067
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OK I KNOW that we are already 100% sure that he cheated but someone should show this hand to Mike and ask him to justify it.

He won't do it. He can't do it.





1 - He calls a 3bet pre flop with JTo oop (2 overs)
2 - He calls a small flop bet (backdoors)
3 - HE FOLDS TO A REGULAR BET ON THE TURN WHEN HE HITS TOP PAIR

These actions can't coexist within the same play. There's no logic whatsoever.

There is no poker player in this world who would take these lines and fold the turn when hitting top pair.
It's ironic because it's only a $50 bet but that hand to me, if you had to pick just 1 hand, is the biggest evidence of cheating. Assuming you aren't cheating, there is no reason to call a $20 bet with no pair on the flop and then to fold the turn when you hit top pair. If you'd fold top pair on the turn you'd also fold Jack high on the flop.

In actuality he called the flop hoping to hit runner runner straight. Turning a pair of jacks (top pair) didn't help him towards beating a set so he folded.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:14 AM   #5068
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Nvm. I don't think the way you react to getting light called on your god-mode bluff is that they call, a full second goes by, they begin to flip over their hand, you then turn your palms up automatically and raise them in disbelief just before the cards they're flipping over are actually exposed (video evidence of this, please watch it)

It's honest to God the most obvious thing in the world. You raise your hands at the call itself or at seeing what you were called with. He somehow did it in between. If it weren't for the fact that this involves dozens of people being robbed this would be actually ****ing hilarious. It's still amusing how awful this guy is at cheating, but then I'm disgusted at all the idiots defending him. This is horrifying
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:16 AM   #5069
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I have to repost this, because I've yet to see a single defense of it, or even acknowledgement of it, and I shudder to think that well-meaning people who might be friends of Postle might put their entire reputations on the line to defend this scumbag who gives no shits about you because he's probably a sociopath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1UjP-UpX8

This is confirmed guilt in the court of common sense. This is my second time begging for another explanation. Haven't received one. Weird. Might be because there isn't. If you watch the whole video closely and have an unbiased mind, you'll never hard-defend him again. You won't, and you can't. It's too absurdly and laughably obvious that something fishy is happening.
interesting that Bart Hanson in seat 9 and the guy in seat 8, who was in the hand with the Hart Banson name both have their phones on the table which means there was no phone ban in effect and yet Mike’s phone is not visible.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:17 AM   #5070
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Joey - you weren’t convinced Postle was cheating until Postle’s interview with Mike?
Also confused as hell by this comment. I thought at first he didn't want to say he was cheating for legal reasons then i thought the god mode stuff was just a troll/sarcasm.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:18 AM   #5071
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Was it stated that he typically prefers the #1 seat? It appears that you can't see his alleged bone conductive hat speaker when he sits in the #1 seat, which is somewhat clever.

I love the screenshot where the alleged unintelligent cheater lifts his hat to reveal the indentation of a bone conductive speaker on his temple in the exact shape and spot that a bone conductive speaker would normally rest, allegedlllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:21 AM   #5072
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Joey - you weren’t convinced Postle was cheating until Postle’s interview with Mike?
I'm not going to call the guy a cheater 10000x times on the livestream when he is proclaiming his innocence still, others around him are supporting him, and others aren't convinced. He kept saying he could explain himself and that he didn't do it while we were speaking.

I wanted to hear from him first before making a definite decision either way - I said 100% something out of line was happening but I wanted to hear him explain himself. Once I heard that, I made my decision.

After watching this video, I have no more doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aGD4FYX9NA
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:22 AM   #5073
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Are there updated cliffs somewhere? Did Postle comment the situation aside from the Matusow podcast?
What happened on the second podcast? Was it just more of the first?
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:23 AM   #5074
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6yLN32LpGQ

Is it just me or at 1:01:30 when postle is describing why he lives in Cali. It seems like he's starting to say he likes living there because it's a great area for tech but then he starts to stumble over it as he realizes he claimed he has no technical knowledge and can't say that. Which obv doesn't line up with the tech business he claimed on his linked in page before he took it down.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:25 AM   #5075
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Woooo don't know if this has been posted but starting at 4:47:00 as a comment points out - Postle semisecretly takes some chips and hands them to Justin(Kuraitis, not the commentator Justin) seemingly in exchange for a drink? Actual handoff at 4:47:50...seem off to anyone else?




Same session the QJ turn check/fold to QT on J98x happens half an hour later.

Also - please stop derailing with insults on blankoblanco(perhaps check out who that is first) - he probably just watched 1 min of Joey and missed the sarcasm/isn't happy about this serious topic being presented in such a way that could be misperceived by others.
Looks like he's just tipping Justin for giving him a drink
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