Are there cameras in the control room for this? I assume this has been answered but I haven’t seen it.

I feel like there should be given how
Important that room is no? If there are then we could probably time up movements between Mike and the person in that room such as text to text or voice to hand movement/reaction from Mike. (By we I mean investigators).

Also, one thing I noticed a lot is every time Mike is in seat 2 he always looks to his 8 o’clock. He does it frequently from other seats as well but it’s quite off how often he does it in the middle of a big spot. I get doing it once or twice but looking slightly behind you across the room (I think that’s the commentators and control room area?) is super weird and not something that I find a normal movement while consistently making big decisions.

I know that seems subtle but if you actually put yourself in that setting or situation or even are playing right now think about how weird that is and how unlikely of a movement that would be repeatedly let alone while making big decisions. I only bring that up because of what is in that direction.


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He's not defending Mike, he's defending Joey. You aren't very bright because sarcasm went right over your head. You are making yourself look stupid the more you post.

Is it obvious he cheated? I really thought he might be some kind of god. Not sure yet.

I think Veronica was asked this on DNegs podcast from saturday and I believe she didn't think so or wasn't sure, but she did say people had phones out while they were broadcasting live and everyone was in and out of there, leaving their backpacks in there etc.

Just in case you didn't notice, hes being sarcastic in his last statement.

*Disclaimer* This post is for the mentally challenged.

Someone has shown up to challenge Suzzer. Its close too

https://youtu.be/2aGD4FYX9NA

For anyone who might not have seen this video yet. It seems to have identified the exact date Postle started cheating.

Changing my position on Mike to this...it's much "funnier".

Woooo don't know if this has been posted but starting at 4:47:00 as a comment points out - Postle semisecretly takes some chips and hands them to Justin(Kuraitis, not the commentator Justin) seemingly in exchange for a drink? Actual handoff at 4:47:50...seem off to anyone else?




Same session the QJ turn check/fold to QT on J98x happens half an hour later.

Also - please stop derailing with insults on blankoblanco(perhaps check out who that is first) - he probably just watched 1 min of Joey and missed the sarcasm/isn't happy about this serious topic being presented in such a way that could be misperceived by others.

Not that he needs it, but I will defend/support wiiziwiig as being an excellent poster in this thread.

And let's not start critiquing posters based upon post count. Clearly this thread has attracted several new members to 2+2 and several old 2+2 members have been resurrected thanks to this scandal/thread.

New and old members are always welcome here.

I believe there is confusion when people are using the word 'control room'

There are 2 rooms/areas. I suggest they be referred to as the COMMENTATOR ROOM and the PEEK room (Where the LIVE CARD FEED can be seen.)

I BELIEVE Daniel asked her if she had ever been in the PEEK room, and she said yes, that, when she first started commentating it was a really open area and people used to go in and out of there and leave backpacks, and that later on, it became 'more secure' but she left detail out as to when, how much more secure, etc.

That Tom must be able to see their cards, that he just knows what they have, over and over and over again? No, not at all actually.

Is that any more then one period during WSOP you talk about? Other staff were involved with the WSOP as well either playing or dealing. Thus not a very convincing reason to single out Justin. Moreover superusing continued while Justin was in the Bahama's thus it isn't even true. That doesn't fully exonerate him either ofc.

Two more options:
- the insider has to assume some of Justin's tasks meaning he didn't have enough time;
- Justin's replacement behaves less predictable, making colluding from the production room more dangerous.

Both would fully account for the difference when he's away (if that were to be true).

I think thats a case for Justin/JFK not being involved tbh. It only looks like 1 chip so a 5 or a 25.

I often will tip a floor/TD/host if they do a good job. It's def not uncommon.

Also at the some point earlier in the clip Justin the commentator talked about Postle getting dinner. I speculated earlier in the thread that he was prob tipping or buying dinner/drinks for the crew to keep them on side.

Postle def seems the kind of guy who realises that taking care of people here and there can work in you favour in the long run.

It's been brought forth earlier that if you're trying really hard to listen to something moving your eyes in the direction of the sound helps hearing it

Another option is that Justin and someone else are both inside men but I think that's less likely than just one.

Holy hell

Maybe he thought he was defending Joey. The fact that Joey has looked over so many ludicrous hands and is still acting like Postle might be innocent and "a God" is NOT a point in Joey's favor at all. That's my entire goddamn point. Joey is the one who's seen enough that he should know without a doubt that the guy is a thief, and he's still doing this "he might be a God" crap.

Doug knows the guy's cheating from less specific evidence because he's better at poker, he can interpret the insane Potripper vs. Postle graph (which is the deathknell on its own), and he has common sense

edit: Seriously. Potripper on UB vs. Postle graph. That it's. That's all you need to see. Only possible argument is that the stats don't reflect all play, but it reflects what we see on stream. The idea that Postle lost this shitload of money that wasn't seen on stream is NOT A POINT IN HIS FAVOR. IT'S YET ANOTHER MASSIVE STRIKE AGAINST HIM. How do I need to explain this to people?

thank you for the support, I will also mention you are an excellent mod, keep up the amazing work.

So we know the (99.9999999%) cheating started July 18th 2018. Guess what stones did on July 11th 2018.... They had a test stream. Guess when mike Postle played next? July 18th! Why have a test stream when you have been streaming for over 2 years on twitch and i think youtube for as long as well...? Coincidence? I think not!


https://youtu.be/iYcoF4Attts

lol this is brilliant!

So wait, does this mean that Joey superusered the spacetime continuum, to predict 4 years into the future? He even got the name right. Impressive.
Ben86's response is hilarious: 'Yeah F* the Mikes!' lool He knew there would be an interview!

There is no doubt that Joey and Doug are of the same opinion that Postle was cheating.

He does 5 or 6 hour live streams. Part of the whole 'he is a God' thing is his humour.

ok. That's settled.

Hey bud, dusting off my ancient account to tell you that based on your comment I can tell you don’t/haven’t played much poker. I’ve played 18k+ hours of live poker and I actually play. I don’t nit it up and wait for aces. I’ve played a dozen or so live streams with Postle and before I found out he was cheating I thought we had this super meta dynamic(that you clearly wouldn’t understand). If you knew anything about ranges you’d know that I’m pretty much the only one her that can rep 98 AND I have a blocker. Two pair+ HAS to fold to this river raise. Also based on our dynamic Postle could be bluffing, in which case this river raise is god damn perfect.

But besides that, what is your screen name? I didn’t have more, I had $735 left in my stack after I raised river because I personally think that looks 100x stronger than jamming. If you have any other comments or concerns feel free to contact my secretary and I’ll get back to you in Q3 of 2020.

Cheers

-Tbone

See above!

interesting

Sure I've tipped plenty too but Justin's body language just seems...off...to me. I can't make out exactly how much it is but someone else was under the belief it was 2 100's.

This may just be a false positive but the fact that Justin's laptop needs to be around for this to happen does have him close to the top of the suspect list for me. Perhaps some kind of admin permissions only he has. Just think it's worth looking more into him/Taylor than say Lance. There was a video posted with a bunch of the techs so that could help.