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Old 10-06-2019, 06:02 PM   #4901
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Who ever puts the stupid MEME graphics over the screen has to be in on it... What better way to cover up any action on film...
pretty sure its a button the commentators press. please stop. youre embarassing yourself.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:02 PM   #4902
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It is really poor taste to belittle other players after they lose especially in cash games... Why anyone would play on a stream where the commentators treat players like comic trash I don't understand.
Yeah it's terrible.

The cooler/nuts/setasourous rex ones...whatever.

But imagine how some of the players feel to get stacked and then have a meme of this Postle guy as Jesus.

I am now of the belief that Justin might not have been in on it, but actually be the biggest moron of all time.

No way can he ever be given a job in a casino or card room again. The sheer incompetence of a man who has allowed game integrity to be ruined cos he was too busy worrying about memes. It's astonishing.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:04 PM   #4903
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I think Veronica has done all any of the commentators could be expected to do. If not more, with the risk she took. Are they supposed to speculate how Postle is cheating, on the stream? They're playing along with JFK's take on how the stream should be done.

Reservations expressed to management were attacked.

Thread should lighten up on the commentators.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:04 PM   #4904
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Was Lance on the production team? I guess anyone on the production team is worth looking into, but the more people involved, means more money is being split, and higher risk to all involved. If I were doing this, which Id preface by saying, Id never do, Id want as little people involved as possible, or the minimum amount of people required to pull it off.

To me, that means Mike the player, Justin the floorman, and Taylor the graphics guy. Lances name was thrown around as the guy making memes, which I dont see how memes, however dank they may be, could be required to pull this off. Maybe it helped creating an image for Mike but Justin could have just asked him to make it.

I'm pretty sure Im missing some details with how much Lance's name is being brought up.
Yes, he was on the production team.

I don't think you are missing anything on Lance from all that I've seen. His name wasn't mentioned for a while because there's almost nothing fishy to connect, even circumstantially, whereas you can't say that about Taylor or Justin. I fully agree that anyone who has ever had production access should be looked into, including Lance, but there has been no detail or suspicious event, or lack of Godmode in his absence, that corroborates any of it.

Meanwhile, Godmode continued when Lance was no longer on the production team, and even while he was on vacation himself.

If something comes up that's credible, by all means, it's worthy of investigation. I just hate to see some people saying definitive things without even circumstantial evidence.

If there is something I overlooked, please, someone let me know.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:07 PM   #4905
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Given that Law Enforcement hasn't gotten involved, the servers haven't been confiscated, no subpoenas or anything, about the same odds that Postle is cheating.

I'd be surprised if laptops and phones in question aren't already at the bottom of the river.
Fortunately in California you can be charged for obstruction of justice if you destroy evidence in an ongoing investigation even if there is no proof you committed a crime.

I feel 2-3 people magically losing their personal phones and laptops while also wiping network logs would fall under this category once pressed by investigators.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:07 PM   #4906
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If you are hoping for justice in this case possibly a civil case will be successful. I wouldn't hold my breath, just settle for black balling this guy from ever cheating on stream again.
FYP, because you're not going to blackball him from poker, especially if he is not convicted of anything.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:09 PM   #4907
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I hope that, at an absolute minimum, Veronica gets a nomination for the next Global Poker Awards

She should actually get an honorary award anyway
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:12 PM   #4908
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Here is some more evidence that possibly points to Lance (if it is indeed him in the pictures below) being an accomplice.
When I initially skimmed through the session from December 17, 2018, I didn't notice any crotch-staring, or extreme god-moding. Postle folded pre quite often, lost some pots, and won a big one when he rivered a boat and got bluff-raised by someone else.
Then I saw the ridiculous bluff-raise with AQ on the river when the lawyer binked a weak pair of 7s.

But what happened shortly before that obvious Godmode hand?

This did:
A bearded man in a Run It Up (?) hat walks in and stands near Mike and the dealer:

He appears to take a headset from the dealer, places it on his own head, and then gives the dealer another headset:

Then he disappears from view.

Shortly afterwards, Mike moves back from the table and excitedly checks his phone:

It's possible he was checking sports scores, but equally, he could have been getting the go ahead to receive hole-card information, which could - in this case - be as simplified as whatsapp messages like "Lawyer has T7cc".

I'm unsure if Postle god-moded the next couple of hands. I didn't look at them closely, because he folded early on. But then there was the insane AQ vs T7 hand, where Postle is winning all the way to the river, and then makes an audacious bluff-raise when the lawyer sucks out:


You can see the timestamps on those screengrabs, but the whole sequence starts at 1:24 with Lance's (?) entrance: https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=5039
and the real craziness in the AQ v T7 starts at 1:33: https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=5581
This is DAMNING....Wow
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:12 PM   #4909
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Did he release or does anyone know his screen names yet? Im listening to him brag to Mike Matusow about how much he made online willing Mike to ask him with every fiber of my being. Dont worry im not holding my breath.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:14 PM   #4910
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Veronica said some interesting things on DNegs Podcast

- The door to the control room was usually left open while they were setting up and not even sure if it was locked, people put their backpacks in there etc and were in there all the time
- People used their phones in there all the time during live broadcasts
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:15 PM   #4911
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Yes, he was on the production team.

I don't think you are missing anything on Lance from all that I've seen. His name wasn't mentioned for a while because there's almost nothing fishy to connect, even circumstantially, whereas you can't say that about Taylor or Justin. I fully agree that anyone who has ever had production access should be looked into, including Lance, but there has been no detail or suspicious event, or lack of Godmode in his absence, that corroborates any of it.

Meanwhile, Godmode continued when Lance was no longer on the production team, and even while he was on vacation himself.

If something comes up that's credible, by all means, it's worthy of investigation. I just hate to see some people saying definitive things without even circumstantial evidence.

If there is something I overlooked, please, someone let me know.
Yea thats part of the bad that some are criticizing the internet for in the Postle case. Its hard to block those types of comments out as they come in waves when new people get wind and join the thread. Calling out Lance as a person we can look into is about as much as anyone can do with the info that "he changed a dealers headset". Anyone saying he is likely involved bc of that is a moron. Taylor is different bc he actually changed the graphic. Cmon use logic and empirical evidence when making strong accusations against possible conspirators.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:16 PM   #4912
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

So this is pretty amazing from Gump's video. May have been referenced already. Calls a very small (not compared to flop, but $20 bet, small to him) post flop bet from a set of 9's with JTo on a 923cc. He has the J clubs so backdoor straight and flush draw. He turns a J (top pair), and then FOLDS to a 1/2 pot bet:

https://youtu.be/2aGD4FYX9NA?t=1780
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:17 PM   #4913
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There's no truth to the rumor that Belichick just signed Postle to a 1 year contract.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:18 PM   #4914
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Russ Hamilton was caught red handed stealing 25 million dollars. He has faced no criminal charges as far as I know. Do you really think they are going to bring criminal charges against a person with purely circumstantial evidence against? If you are hoping for justice in this case possibly a civil case will be successful. I wouldn't hold my breath, just settle for black balling this guy from ever playing again.
just about everything in this post is wrong
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:19 PM   #4915
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So this is pretty amazing from Gump's video. May have been referenced already. Calls a very small (not compared to flop, but $20 bet, small to him) post flop bet from a set of 9's with JTo on a 923cc. He has the J clubs so backdoor straight and flush draw. He turns a J (top pair), and then FOLDS to a 1/2 pot bet:

https://youtu.be/2aGD4FYX9NA?t=1780
This is the ****ing hand that started it all lol..

amazing
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:20 PM   #4916
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MLJ,

I'm still wary of Lance but you're coming off pretty objective and we appreciate your input to this thread. It's added a lot of value.

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Old 10-06-2019, 06:20 PM   #4917
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Not defending Mike by any means, but doesn't it seem more likely on the T7 vs AQ hand that he would lead river instead of checkraise if he knew the hand? Unless he somehow knows lawyer is betting 3rd pair here 100% of the time, seems more likely to checkback
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:23 PM   #4918
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This is DAMNING....Wow
You have to be open-minded enough to look at it another way.
To whit, Lance is out on the floor doing his job professionally, and someone else is in the booth looking at the live stream with holecards up.

P.S. We all (me included) have to stop jumping to conclusions, try and minimize any confirmation bias, and find rational explanations for anything odd that we see.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:29 PM   #4919
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The "Mike Postle First Time He Cheated?" video from earlier has 368 thumbs up and 1 thumbs down. I wonder who gave it the thumbs down. lol
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:29 PM   #4920
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If there is something I overlooked, please, someone let me know.
Hey Master LJ, another blast from the past, appreciate you posting.

Could I ask whether you know for a fact Lance was working on Stones Live during the WSOP period? He mentions dealing at the WSOP in his CV.

It also mentions he is responsible for the card graphics. Do you know whether Lance always worked on the live shows? Was he the only person responsible for this? If not, who else was? And where was this done? In the 'peep room'?

Who is the person you said was very concerned with the safety of their personal laptop?

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Old 10-06-2019, 06:40 PM   #4921
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Russ Hamilton was caught red handed stealing 25 million dollars. He has faced no criminal charges as far as I know. Do you really think they are going to bring criminal charges against a person with purely circumstantial evidence against? If you are hoping for justice in this case possibly a civil case will be successful. I wouldn't hold my breath, just settle for black balling this guy from ever playing again.
Why? Based on what I've seen, Mike Postle is someone I'd really want in my game. I'd rather he not get to keep the money, so I say we let him play.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:42 PM   #4922
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I have 2 hours tonight to catch up on 20 hours of Postle youtube content. This is crazy
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:43 PM   #4923
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Hey Master LJ, another blast from the past, appreciate you posting.

Could I ask whether you know for a fact Lance was working on Stones Live during the WSOP period? He mentions dealing at the WSOP in his CV.

It also mentions he is responsible for the card graphics. Do you know whether Lance always worked on the live shows? Was he the only person responsible for this? If not, who else was? And where was this done? In the 'peep room'?

Who is the person you said was very concerned with the safety of their personal laptop?

Cheers
Great questions. I might also ask Lance if he could indeed confirm it was he who made the memes and whos idea it was to make them. Was it his idea to make them or someone elses? If it was someone elses idea, whos ides was it and did they give Lance the idea for each meme? Does Lance make all the memes, like the bomb pot graphic?

Pretty sure all this would prove is that they have really bad taste and sense of humor. Even if it was all Lance, itd just prove he was a jerk and not involved with several serious crimes. But I think these questions are worth asking if he really wants to clear his name to those questioning him.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:46 PM   #4924
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I have 2 hours tonight to catch up on 20 hours of Postle youtube content. This is crazy
Watch the Gumpnstein one first. Brilliant stuff, great analytical work.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:49 PM   #4925
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Does Lance make all the memes, like the bomb pot graphic?
Taylor did these
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