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Old 10-06-2019, 03:37 PM   #4826
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Looking at the Poker GFX Manual, the table display screen with all the players' cards looks rather tight and small - seems like it would be difficult to read the entire table's worth of cards from the small screen of his smartphone VPN'ing into the server running GFX.

I wonder if Mike zoomed in on an area of his phone's screen to get a better look, which would make the cards bigger but limit which seats he could see. Has anyone done analysis on whether he utilized God modes against particular seating positions for a given session?

Here's one of the GFX screens with the cards (from manual). Not sure if this is the one they'd have up in the normal course of the game or if there would be a different screen where the cards are shown larger:
I'm thinking back to that bright blue screen - wondering if there is something even simpler like going into the properties/deck registry for cards since that is all you need - small text would also be less detectable than actual images of cards. I would also not rule out the possibility for more than 1 accomplice - could be easier to keep a secret for longer if there's a tight group in the back each time.

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:37 PM   #4827
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:41 PM   #4828
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aGD...ature=youtu.be

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:48 PM   #4829
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On almost any VNC client, and definitely in the particular one they use, you can pinch/expand to focus in on a part of the screen you want. It's a trivial problem to solve.

I use a different client for my home setup which has a 4k monitor, and a secondary monitor, which I can navigate just fine from my VNC client on my phone. It's never the easiest thing, to do work while VNCed on a phone, but getting things to display is really simple.
Is this why his left hand is usually on his lap? To allow him to adjust the screen to see particular seats better? Since they are all in a row, he can focus in on 2 or 3 players' hole cards at a time for better visibility, and set this up in advance (before he begins his session). Then, once he's at the table, he uses his hidden left hand to swipe to focus on seats 1-3, or 4-6, etc., etc., depending on what interests him during a particular hand.

With a bit of practice, he would be able to do this without looking, so when he finally did look down at his own cards, then peeked under the table, he would have the right seat teed up for him to view. This would ensure good visibility. But it would require his hand under the table to swipe the screen as required. And to keep the screen from locking.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:48 PM   #4830
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Yes, there is a paramilitary division that is comprised of former special forces, seals, etc. Maybe we can stay on topic. The thread is about Postle’s cheating, not the CIA, it’s directives, missions, etc. Geez!
Says the person who initially brought up his CIA employment and then posted 3 or 4 times again about it (with some incorrect/incomplete info pointed out). Did they not train you about hypocrisy at the farm? I'd wager you were an admin puke, food services support, something along those lines perhaps? - Bond, James Bond.

Also, I think that before we go denigrating anyone's service (Lance), there should be absolute proof or a confession before casting shame on his or anyone else who may be involved past or present military service.

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:50 PM   #4831
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Is this why his left hand is usually on his lap? To allow him to adjust the screen to see particular seats better? Since they are all in a row, he can focus in on 2 or 3 players' hole cards at a time for better visibility, and set this up in advance (before he begins his session). Then, once he's at the table, he uses his hidden left hand to swipe to focus on seats 1-3, or 4-6, etc., etc., depending on what interests him during a particular hand.

With a bit of practice, he would be able to do this without looking, so when he finally did look down at his own cards, then peeked under the table, he would have the right seat teed up for him to view. This would ensure good visibility. But it would require his hand under the table to swipe the screen as required. And to keep the screen from locking.
That would be my guess.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:50 PM   #4832
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Has to be more locals ITT who haven't been rendered busto by family court and are still in the game.

He's taking about FLB, Rancho and Magnolia being where he's done all this crushing? Wtf? Does FLB (a bowling alley) still spread games? Aren't we talking maybe 10 tables total here?

Who ITT has observed him crushing it at Capital or Thunder Valley (understand he has a handful of cashes there over the years)?
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:54 PM   #4833
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Another clarification: It would be suicidal for a phone, or non authorized device, to VNC directly into the PokerGFX server. There would be logs for days, your MAC address, IP or device ID. To me, it seems necessary that a device that is expected to be logged into the PokerGFX VNC is being used as a proxy, and Postle is VNCing into *that* authorized computer.

This does open it up for the possibility he hacked someone without their knowledge, but that is less likely given the expectation that the main PokerGFX server is only logged into for calibration, and maybe occasionally to fix graphics/chipstacks.

The added part is that a certain someone often has his laptop locked up. Almost religiously. Their personal laptop.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:54 PM   #4834
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Is this why his left hand is usually on his lap? To allow him to adjust the screen to see particular seats better? Since they are all in a row, he can focus in on 2 or 3 players' hole cards at a time for better visibility, and set this up in advance (before he begins his session). Then, once he's at the table, he uses his hidden left hand to swipe to focus on seats 1-3, or 4-6, etc., etc., depending on what interests him during a particular hand.

With a bit of practice, he would be able to do this without looking, so when he finally did look down at his own cards, then peeked under the table, he would have the right seat teed up for him to view. This would ensure good visibility. But it would require his hand under the table to swipe the screen as required. And to keep the screen from locking.
Excellent points, I forgot about him keeping his hand under the table. That would explain how he could keep panning/zooming around the VPN screen to get the full tables' worth of cards.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:56 PM   #4835
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Beat a majority of the NBA shooting a basketball at certain distances. Book that bet, Mike.
Cool. Thanks for the free money but that's not my name.

Also, more importantly, where's that live poker sample that proves Mike's winrate/VPIP "violates the laws of the universe"?
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:58 PM   #4836
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I just watched the September 12th, 2018 stream from start to finish and can confirm that Mike did not cheat on this stream.

Early in the night it was mentioned they had just had card reader difficulty and had to swap out cards or repair a new deck with the reader: https://youtu.be/0ze0SvF1Yi4?t=1410 Not sure if that is relevant but I think it's worth noting.

He has his phone above the rail until just after the 38:40 mark where he hides it away (potentially under his leg): https://youtu.be/0ze0SvF1Yi4?t=2320

However, not too long after that he plays this hand passively and then gets blown off the best hand in a multiway pot: https://youtu.be/0ze0SvF1Yi4?t=3840

Later he has the phone back out again and throughout the night he loses multiple pots he could have won if he knew his opponents' cards.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:58 PM   #4837
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Another clarification: It would be suicidal for a phone, or non authorized device, to VNC directly into the PokerGFX server. There would be logs for days, your MAC address, IP or device ID. To me, it seems necessary that a device that is expected to be logged into the PokerGFX VNC is being used as a proxy, and Postle is VNCing into *that* authorized computer.

This does open it up for the possibility he hacked someone without their knowledge, but that is less likely given the expectation that the main PokerGFX server is only logged into for calibration, and maybe occasionally to fix graphics/chipstacks.

The added part is that a certain someone often has his laptop locked up. Almost religiously. Their personal laptop.
There are lightweight VPN server-side apps that can be configured to not log their logins, and the server itself isn't going to log IP traffic being passed through to a specific applications they're unaware of like a VPN service. The server would only log activity to official system services and ports, like RDP.
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There are lightweight VPN server-side apps that can be configured to not log their logins, and the server itself isn't going to log IP traffic being passed through to a specific applications they're unaware of like a VPN service. The server would only log activity to official system services and ports, like RDP.
My sys admin/devops skills are intermediate at best, and fairly siloed to Linux distros instead of Windows. On Linux using the client/server of the exact VNC app, it does a great job of logging access.

Also, it's not an actual server-server, it's a work station/desktop taking on the function of a dedicated server. Not sure if that changes anything on the Windows side.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:04 PM   #4839
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You may be correct about the blue screen on Mike Postle's phone being a VNC client. It is not normal for a phone to have a blue screen. For people that don't know, VNC is a very popular way to gain remote access into a computer. This may be hypothetical but it makes sense. This would give Mike Postle access to the graphics tracker windows computer that displays the cards in real-time. This is described by Matt Berkey 23 minutes in this video
https://youtu.be/c-tn_g2wcRc?t=1380



It is also noted by Matt Berkey, which may be a coincidence, that when the cards are read, the screen is blue. If it is true, that this is a VNC client on Mike Postle's phone, this implies with a high probability, that there is an insider that knows about the VNC server application running on the graphics tracker windows computer (Someone has to have access to this computer to make sure that the VNC Server application is enabled/ is running on this computer for the VNC Client app to have access to it).
Funny, I mentioned that in one post, and I was told my thought was too off and complicated. It was one of the ways I thought it could be done.

With VNC, you’d need to be on the same network. Standard VNC protocol is going to be blocked for incoming connections on a firewall. You’d have to be on the same network or install a reverse proxy to do it.
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My sys admin/devops skills are intermediate at best, and fairly siloed to Linux distros instead of Windows. On Linux using the client/server of the exact VNC app, it does a great job of logging access.

Also, it's not an actual server-server, it's a work station/desktop taking on the function of a dedicated server. Not sure if that changes anything on the Windows side.
GFX is WIndows-only so I'm speaking from Windows experience. And by "server" I meant the server side of a client/server pair of apps participating in a protocol, such as VPN.
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Funny, I mentioned that in one post, and I was told my thought was too off and complicated. It was one of the ways I thought it could be done.

With VNC, you’d need to be on the same network. Standard VNC protocol is going to be blocked for incoming connections on a firewall. You’d have to be on the same network or install a reverse proxy to do it.
You are assuming best practices. None of the things you mentioned have to be true. In fact, VNC is accessible to anyone with the login by default. You have to take extra steps to whitelist IPs or subdomains, and/or develop access rules.
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GFX is WIndows-only so I'm speaking from Windows experience. And by "server" I meant the server side of a client/server pair of apps participating in a protocol, such as VPN.
Sure, I wanted to give you color because it seems you know more about Windows admin than I do. I have no idea how most apps log in Windows, but I do for Linux. The same VNC setup/client-server app on Linux logs pretty robustly.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:10 PM   #4843
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Pretty sure the good ones (commentators/color/announcers etc.) can do both. They're not mutually exclusive ffs. If they aren't (doing any) analysis, then wtf are they "commenting" on when they're talking about a game of strategy?
After watching just a little of this "commentary" I am convinced that most of the commentators were picked specifically because they know very little about poker, so they wouldn't question all the ridiculous plays by Mike.

So tilting to watch Mike play some hand in an unfathomable way for thousands of dollars while the commentators are not even paying attention, talking about what they had for lunch or someone's new haircut or whatever.
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Funny, I mentioned that in one post, and I was told my thought was too off and complicated. It was one of the ways I thought it could be done.

With VNC, you’d need to be on the same network. Standard VNC protocol is going to be blocked for incoming connections on a firewall. You’d have to be on the same network or install a reverse proxy to do it.
There are ways around having to define a firewall rule that would otherwise prevent unsolicited incoming traffic from reaching an internal node, the easiest being having the app on the protected network initiate an outgoing connection - many router-based stateful firewalls are designed to allow such traffic to occur.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:11 PM   #4845
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the heat was on from the replay streams more than actually at the table seeing it happen in person

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So right towards the end of Joey's stream tonight they show a hand with Mike where the graphics aren't working and an employee of the casino comes over and talks to Mike and says something and then Mike leaves the table. That individual was identified (By Veronica in the chat) to be Lance. If you check out Lance Hudspeth's bio on linkedin he has quite the interesting background and duties during his time at Stones as well as other places:

I have been in the Casino Industry for the past 3 years. Dealing poker in Las Vegas at the Main Event for the WSOP, and locally for Stones Gambling Hall. During my time at stones I have covered for the IT Manager and running the IT department for Stones, which lead to me taking over Stones Live. Stones Live is on of the premiere video streams for poker, and entertainment online. I strived to make the stream the best I could with my team of professionals. I was the lead technician for Amazon Web Services, Mobile Farm development. I helped build the device farm from an empty room to what it is now. Helping order parts, install racks, network, and all the components to the room. Developing phones and pads from around the world to test developer applications on any wanted device, while still doing my job as a Data Center Tech for multiple locations. I was responsible for making sure amazon employees and the Amazon.com website are functioning correctly. I also helped with other IT needs, such as building the network, running cables, or replacing server components. While I was in the Army, I needed to be able to adapt to any situation under stress, which includes working on any of the software or hardware on or inside the vehicles. I excel at being able to learn quickly, and meet expected deadlines on time. I never give up, and always want to succeed in everything I do.
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The simplest least detectable method is for someone to dictate to you what other players have and what your equity is in the hand. The whole time they cheated nobody recognized that he had anything in his hat and even today after all the evidence people still dispute that he had anything in his hat. That's incredibly undetectable. When he uses that method he looks like he's just thinking, not cheating.

Contrast that with him looking down at his phone all the time. That is super obvious at times and it would be very easy to catch him in the act. I imagine when people started accusing him of cheating, looking down at his phone all the time was no longer that great of an option especially if they were somewhat starting to enforce the no phones at the table rule.
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Excellent points, I forgot about him keeping his hand under the table. That would explain how he could keep panning/zooming around the VPN screen to get the full tables' worth of cards.
Thanks. And this may also be one of the big reasons he had to look under the table multiple times in certain hands. Because if he screwed up and lost his place on the screen completely, it would be very difficult to get back to his desired location.

He would have to swipe a bit, then check and see where he's at. He could never be seen actively interacting with his phone during a hand. Hence the swipe, view, readjust if off, etc. Network lags could also cause some issues while swiping.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this rarely happened. He only needed to move the screen a bit to the right or left, depending on which seat he needed to view. And I'm sure he got very good at this. But if he lost his place completely for whatever reason, it would have been very difficult to get back where he wanted to be during the hand.

I was always wondering why in some hands (not most), he had to look multiple times under the table. Now I think I know. He had accidentally gotten away from the hole cards and was now lost on the display, and was trying to maneuver his way back to where the hole cards are shown. But to do that during the hand, he would have to do it blindly, then check where he was, move it some more, recheck, etc., etc.
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Thanks. And this may also be one of the big reasons he had to look under the table multiple times in certain hands. Because if he screwed up and lost his place on the screen completely, it would be very difficult to get back to his desired location.

He would have to swipe a bit, then check and see where he's at. He could never be seen actively interacting with his phone during a hand. Hence the swipe, view, readjust if off, etc. Network lags could also cause some issues while swiping.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this rarely happened. He only needed to move the screen a bit to the right or left, depending on which seat he needed to view. And I'm sure he got very good at this. But if he lost his place completely for whatever reason, it would have been very difficult to get back where he wanted to be during the hand.

I was always wondering why in some hands (not most), he had to look multiple times under the table. Now I think I know. He had accidentally gotten away from the hole cards and was now lost on the display, and was trying to maneuver his way back to where the hole cards are shown. But to do that during the hand, he would have to do it blindly, then check where he was, move it some more, recheck, etc., etc.
More good points. Btw there wouldn't be any network lags with swiping (ie, panning/zooming ) - the VPN app on his phone would always be receiving the full-screen, full-resolution output from the VPN server, so any zooming/panning would be local to the app and not require additional network requests.
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As a former CIA employee, they are “officers,” not “agents.” Agents are the people we recruit.
We are trained to spot deception. There are certain things your unconscious mind does that can give you away. Some things you can control. Others you cannot. You cannot over rule your sympathetic nervous system outside of taking medications, such as beta blockers. However, there are still psychological things deceptive people do. Secret Service members test out the best as far as picking up on deceptive behavior.
Check out the book "Talking to strangers"
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:16 PM   #4849
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Cool. Thanks for the free money but that's not my name.

Also, more importantly, where's that live poker sample that proves Mike's winrate/VPIP "violates the laws of the universe"?
It's already been posted days ago. His approximate total winnings and approximate number of hands played were used to estimate his win rate in bbs per 100 hands. It's Potripper territory.
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Funny, I mentioned that in one post, and I was told my thought was too off and complicated. It was one of the ways I thought it could be done.

With VNC, you’d need to be on the same network. Standard VNC protocol is going to be blocked for incoming connections on a firewall. You’d have to be on the same network or install a reverse proxy to do it.
Someone said earlier that the Stones Live stream was on its own network within the casino. Which makes sense, since the guys who run security at the casino were probably hesitant to allow something like this on their network.

I wonder if that's how Mike's accomplice knew he couldn't be easily caught? Nobody outside of his team would know what was going on across that network.
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