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Old 10-01-2019, 01:59 PM   #451
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

The announcers are mostly just clueless recs who have been directed to be kind towards all the players it seems to me. There are quite a few 90+ VPIP players who don't get even a slight mention of "special" plays.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:02 PM   #452
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The announcers are mostly just clueless recs who have been directed to be kind towards all the players it seems to me. There are quite a few 90+ VPIP players who don't get even a slight mention of "special" plays.
yeah the stream gets very defensive about criticizing players. You have to walk on eggshells when saying a play is a bad play.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:03 PM   #453
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He literally makes the nut river decision every time. Addresses how he is a scammer in his P5 bio. Interested to see his relationship with guys behind the stream.

Guy deserves to go to jail
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:03 PM   #454
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https://youtu.be/Eg34YTF-meA?t=6098

This is the hand which makes me believe it is deeper than just Mike and some rfid reader. Someone on the production team has to be on this as well.
1. If the graphic was wrong the hand makes sense. Nothing to talk about.
2. If he actually had 86o -there is some 4th level thinking here and actually a lot of risk involved. He could have just pilled and take whatever is in the pot ($1500) with no risk at all. Instead he went with perfect sized bet of $900, which is small enough to leave some room for the other guy to raise AND have enough chips to fold for AI. The other guy has only $3200 and the pot is $2400 so shove is not out of the question and if he just shoves Mike has to fold. Honestly, if you cheating you don't need to cut it this close and risk additional money when you can just take $1500 without any risk at all.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:07 PM   #455
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just watched the first 3 hrs of joeys youtube video on this guy and the guy is either the best player of all time by a huge margin or he has some sort of advantage. u get a guy like joey, who is the cheating oracle, saying over and over that hes a god and these guys streaming the game are even calling him the apostle something has to be up. the APOSTLE walks away with 7k+ every session, is never wrong, his river aggression is off the charts and hes just sitting there laughing in these guys faces immed after betting. its pretty amazing that this has gone on for so long without anyone thinking something is up.

someone mentioned hey check his hendonmob results this guy is no joke. so ok fine lets check it. what does the greatest player of all time's live poker results look like? 100s of wins? infinite final tables? playing 25k 8 max high rollers in Helsinki? Nah man, hes just ****in GRINDING $100 dailys and a few 500s, even a ****in $50 buy in in there. 10 cashes this year so hes gotta be playing tournaments somewhat regularly? this is just insane. 2018 is the same thing. 13 cashes, all buyins under $500. 2017 is even more ridiculous. 30 cashes in 2017 with the biggest buyin being $455. this guy walks out of the stones 5/5 game with 7k every time and this is his play? hes literally the best player of all time and hes grinding dailys, ante up events, and 365 circuit events and doing ok? he even threw in a win in the stones spring classic for 36k which gave me a little chuckle.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:08 PM   #456
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Assuming that is true, and you are arguing in good faith, which I very much doubt, it's totally irrelevant. The accusation is that Mike is getting hole card information in real time from a third party who has legitimate access to the feed. The only person talking about hacking is you.
It could also be a screen viewer installed on the streaming computer. Doesn't have to be that Stones staff members are involved.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:08 PM   #457
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Just spent two hours going through this thread and watching a bunch of clips. ChicagoJoey good job on a lot of the breakdowns. At this point I see one of two things happening. He continues to play but he stops crushing, soul reading, and being a god and starts losing, or if he's smart he will disappear.

Anyone who has played poker for any significant amount of time knows this is bullshit. Now the question is how is he doing it and who's involved. This didn't come out of nowhere or people being butt hurt they were losing.

After this also if anyone sits down at a game with this guy while it's being streamed well that's on them.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:11 PM   #458
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This has been mentioned but just want to document it for anyone that missed what his own brother said about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4dHt8yhhXuk

Commentator: I wanna go back to the wheel of destiny.

Mike Postle brother: The wheel ... so....there is always different things. So usually you spin this wheeel for 50 cents or 1 dollar, so my brother had the wheel perfectly lined up and my brother put some quarters behind the wheel....so when you would spin it you would always get close to a $5 bill. So most of time when you rolled, like 90% of time it would stop just before the $5 dollar. And he would say "oo you were so close". And it would be the worst prize ever, so my brother would win half the winnings from what it gave out so my brother would make $30-40 bucks . So if there is an angle -- -my brother would do it. He will do it.

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At this point its getting unbelievable that people are capable of still defending this super user. They either have not taken enough time to examine the evidence in aggregate or have malicious intentions in protecting this scumbag cheater.


B I N G O!

I sent this tip to our lead investigator ChicagoJoey yesterday and have been waiting on someone to comment on this.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:14 PM   #459
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I’m a network security engineer.
ok? what is your point? you are spending half your posts slaughtering matt berkey, who was one of the few to initially defend berkey by saying people shouldn't be quick to judge and that there needs to be clear, sufficient, objective evidence that his play is suspect.

your post just reaffirms that you are clueless.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:16 PM   #460
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just watched the first 3 hrs of joeys youtube video on this guy and the guy is either the best player of all time by a huge margin or he has some sort of advantage. u get a guy like joey, who is the cheating oracle, saying over and over that hes a god and these guys streaming the game are even calling him the apostle something has to be up. the APOSTLE walks away with 7k+ every session, is never wrong, his river aggression is off the charts and hes just sitting there laughing in these guys faces immed after betting. its pretty amazing that this has gone on for so long without anyone thinking something is up.

someone mentioned hey check his hendonmob results this guy is no joke. so ok fine lets check it. what does the greatest player of all time's live poker results look like? 100s of wins? infinite final tables? playing 25k 8 max high rollers in Helsinki? Nah man, hes just ****in GRINDING $100 dailys and a few 500s, even a ****in $50 buy in in there. 10 cashes this year so hes gotta be playing tournaments somewhat regularly? this is just insane. 2018 is the same thing. 13 cashes, all buyins under $500. 2017 is even more ridiculous. 30 cashes in 2017 with the biggest buyin being $455. this guy walks out of the stones 5/5 game with 7k every time and this is his play? hes literally the best player of all time and hes grinding dailys, ante up events, and 365 circuit events and doing ok? he even threw in a win in the stones spring classic for 36k which gave me a little chuckle.

And he’s not the only one with Superstar win rate on StonesLive.

Start digging. It’s get deeper.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:16 PM   #461
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yeah the stream gets very defensive about criticizing players. You have to walk on eggshells when saying a play is a bad play.


I do commentary for LATB from time to time and its one of the only rules they gave me. Try and support every player's decision as you are there to only call the action and not talk strategy.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:20 PM   #462
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I do commentary for LATB from time to time and its one of the only rules they gave me. Try and support every player's decision as you are there to only call the action and not talk strategy.
Really?
If I had a nickel for every time JJ said the word ‘blockerzz’ I wouldn’t have to work.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:21 PM   #463
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

So far, Mike has provided 0 examples of the following:

1) Bet-calling a river with the weaker valuehand
2) Betting river for value, getting called by a better hand in significant pot (sometimes you get value-owned in poker)
3) Bluffing river into medium strong - strong bluffcatchers
4) Herocalling river and being wrong for stacks

I've made a video about my take on the probabilities with a few of my favourite HH's of Mike:
https://youtu.be/NHKgA1FOO7Q

Mike has provided 1 hand, where he lost 50bb bluffcatching river, in like 20-30 sessions? Ah yeah, and another one where he lost 4bb bluffcatching river
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:21 PM   #464
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https://youtu.be/Eg34YTF-meA?t=6098

This is the hand which makes me believe it is deeper than just Mike and some rfid reader. Someone on the production team has to be on this as well.
This is the greediest/dumbest one yet. A few times when someone else shows insane heart and the cheater has air they should give it up. Probably why the other inside man jumped in to correct it. Wonder if they argued about this one when they were chopping up the other players' winnings.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:22 PM   #465
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And he’s not the only one with Superstar win rate on StonesLive.

Start digging. It’s get deeper.
This is what I was thinking also, I won't be doing the digging but I am here to see it all burn lol..

Because it for sure will. The internet is undefeated in **** like this.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:22 PM   #466
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And he’s not the only one with Superstar win rate on StonesLive.

Start digging. It’s get deeper.
or u could just type what u know
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:24 PM   #467
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WHO'S PROVIDING THE DECKS IN THESE GAMES???
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:24 PM   #468
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I don’t think Joey would take a bunch of adderall and spend 20+ hours of his life “investigating” because some random stones players sent him a pm. Someone he respects (Berkey) told him and that’s when this blew up and turned mikes life into hell.

Being suspicious isn’t enough to dragging this guys name through the mud and ruining all of his future action. You have to how he does it before making accusations and ruining this persons professional and personal life.
Joey found out about this Saturday during his live stream. A viewer asked Joey if he heard about Veronica 2.0 tweet? FYI Veronica works for StonesLive and made these allegations.

It’s so happened that some other viewers of Joeys livestream Saturday provided so additional info that sparked Joeys interest.

So hell no, Berkey had nothing to do with getting Joey involved with this.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:25 PM   #469
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The moment where they switch the graphics to give Mike a more reasonable hand to go all-in with rather than what the RFID technology says he has is extremely suspect on multiple levels. It's one of the most egregious plays Mike makes in terms of being nearly indefensible, and it almost feels like someone in production gets nervous and tries to help him out by changing the graphics so that his play makes sense.

It's also the moment during the livestream review where Joey totally loses his mind. LOL
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:25 PM   #470
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https://youtu.be/Eg34YTF-meA?t=6098

This is the hand which makes me believe it is deeper than just Mike and some rfid reader. Someone on the production team has to be on this as well.
Mike is facebook friends with half the production team of the livestream. He's also friends with Justin Kuraitis, the production/poker tournament room manager guy who ran this investigation and concluded no wrongdoing. Go figure.

No, it's not a crime to like someone's facebook profile picture, but it adds to the events

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Old 10-01-2019, 02:26 PM   #471
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Assuming that is true, and you are arguing in good faith, which I very much doubt, it's totally irrelevant. The accusation is that Mike is getting hole card information in real time from a third party who has legitimate access to the feed. The only person talking about hacking is you.
There are a lot of posts implying mike has some sort of backdoor into the technology and im saying as a network security engineer, that it’s highly unlikely. You’re correct that if there is cheating, it has to be a simple relay between someone with access to BOTH the rfid information and the video feed.

According to the stones, they’ve investigated and found no wrong doing. So what is it? Some big conspiracy with multiple people and the casino involved... or some donk on donk violence.

Edit: if the production team investigated themselves then yeah lol that’s a huge red flag

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Old 10-01-2019, 02:28 PM   #472
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Btw I made that original post in this thread when there was one 18 minute video which I thought was like, a compilation of the cherry picked worst hands he played. Based on those assumptions, I thought it was unclear whether he was a cheater.

Since then, hundreds of hours worth of evidence has come out that proves without a shadow of a doubt that this guy cheated 100% (in my opinion), and for me there is absolutely no other explanation. Just wanted to clarify that.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:28 PM   #473
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I also agree that a review of any other huge winner in these games is warranted, because the greedy MF'ers who came up with this exploit would not want to limit their cash intake to just one guy.

It could certainly be a ring of players, people sharing the profits, and working as a team to defraud the marks.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:29 PM   #474
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Big up Joey; you are doing gods work!
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:29 PM   #475
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There are a lot of posts implying mike has some sort of backdoor into the technology and im saying as a network security engineer, that it’s highly unlikely. You’re correct that if there is cheating, it has to be a simple relay between someone with access to BOTH the rfid information and the video feed.

According to the stones, they’ve investigated and found no wrong doing. So what is it? Some big conspiracy with multiple people and the casino involved... or some donk on donk violence.
I hate to break it to you, but it’s far more likely a conspiracy than the “winning the Powerball Millions multiple times” sort of luck it would take to run be this above eV playing whalestyle.
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