I'm not sure how to exactly reach Joey or Doug in a way that they would easily see it, so if you could help spread the finding to them that would be great.

Unfortunately, his inbox here is full already. I don't have twitter so I just hope he sees this. Clear evidence to me.

That hand makes a great one for Doug's youtube channel, too.

The second part of the interview was just a bunch of rambling with no structure and a heads up challenge to Doug Polk. Shambles.

Been pretty actively observing this thing play out the last few days. As a long time pro who's career is actually pretty similar to Mike's outside of live cash streams and the obvious cheating (based on the progression of his career according to him), and having to support a family including a daughter, I wanted to offer my 2c.

I've been playing for 20 years, the first 14 years online, primarily midstakes cash then transitioning to live after 2012, then back to mostly online the last couple of years, so I want to offer a couple of hypotheses of what happened and why it happened. (I guess this could be considered a thinly veiled brag*)

Poker is frickin' hard and if that's your primarily source of income and you have dependents, it can get stressful to the point of unbearable after years. Burnout is a real possibility (sounds like he has other real health issues as well) Mike also sounds like a degen sports better (to what degree idk) and you have immense pressure to make money to get by. I actually think Mike is above intelligence because after watching a lot of his hands, while he does play exactly like he knows hole cards, he has to interpret that data to max/min hands and he actually does it very well and I don't think most people can do it that well. His downfall was thinking he'd never get caught and maximizing his hrly w/ not enough regard to good poker players watching and figuring out what all of you have deduced already. I think he got careless in thinking the Youtube stream of a "lowly 1/3 to 5/5" game would never be publicized enough for anyone to figure out exactly what he was doing also.

He got greedy (as most scammers that get caught do) and probably reveled in the God image the Stones poker room bestowed upon him so he kept at it. It was probably easier for him to just do it and keep doing it after years of grinding (w/o zero recognition, and that's a plausible cause that he decided to do it and kept at it given how some lesser poker players are highly publicized in our community and the general public). Also he had a short cut, albeit illegally, to make tons of money using his expertise to support his family, his sports debts, the progression of difficulty in poker nowadays, and the long grind he was accustomed to and it's kinda easy to see why he did it.

I also think he's denying he's cheating not just for the obvious reasons but also based on how often he mentions his daughter, to not be a loser in her eyes. As a father of a daughter whom I adore and love, that is one of the most important things in my life...what my daughter thinks of me.

A couple of personal thoughts on this ordeal...I think Justin is not in on it but is incompetent and I think we should applaud Mike Matusow for getting a cheater w/ all eyes on him to do an interview, even if Matusow is not asking the questions we'd like answered. After all, would you rather have the alternative and not hear how Postle thinks and talks (since I doubt he'd do an interview w/ anyone else).

You've just now figured out hes using his cell phone in his lap? I think you just blew this case wide open!

I think this “investigation” that’s going on presently at Stones will be very interesting from the standpoint of if they acknowledge there was in fact cheating of some kind, are they suddenly liable or on the hook for any losses incurred by any player that played with Postle or any streamed game? I’m sure someone could argue just by being in the game with him it could have influenced them. The last thing Stones wants to do is drive business away or acknowledge that they failed to ensure their games were fair and that upper management was involved in some capacity. I think it’s really up to the community to find a smoking gun and idiot Matusow saying that people like Joey and Doug are in it for clicks and to step aside for the real investigation is preposterous. Without Joey and Doug this wouldn’t even be a story and I feel far more confident in their ability to uncover the truth then Stones legal team.

Yeah for sure he was not asking the right question and was way uninformed

But he did get him on, and contradict himself, and implicate himself big time in a crucial time. Few day's later 100% he would not come on anywhere ever, like he will do now and only communicate with his lawyer etc

So for that I praise Mike to convince him to come on on the podcast

I posted the hand to Joeys Twitter, gave credit to 2p2. Great work guys. Just another smoking gun.

I strongly disagree that if the majority of players had access to their opponents hole cards that they wouldn’t be able to maximize/minimize their wins and losses. Mike is unable to articulate even a modicum of basic strategy when reviewing hands. He chalks up decisions to how much alcohol he consumed or if a floor man suggested a hand for him to win with. Seems very unlikely that he’s smarter then the average poker player.

Also a lot of poker players have kids or unique living situations. He mentions his daughter constantly as a tactic to deflect blame and garner sympathy and it’s quite predictable behavior from a guilty person.

I totally agree with this. It's hard to believe anyone would play that game more than once, after observing Mike's unique behavior at the poker table.

And if they missed it at the table, but re-watched the stream afterwards along with the inane commentary and Postle specific production to figure out how they lost, there's no way a normal person would return to that game.

I think you overestimate the avg person's intelligence. I said he's of above intelligence, that is including the non poker playing population. Compared to the 2+2 community, his intelligence may be par (that is arguable as well given some of the posters I've seen through the years). Also there are many winning and intelligent poker players that lack some of the basics of sound poker fundamentals. Maybe he acts like an idiot in interviews because he knows he's cheating and he's not exactly sure how to respond to hand questions. Just being in that position has to be mentally taxing. Also have you seen Phil Ivey's masterclass? The flip side is people that can't see the cheating are of below intelligence.

I agree he's likely using his daughter to deflect but just making a point he's in constant denial to save face in front of his daughter (and family) as well.

I think you might be onto something here.
He checks twice, scanning the people nearest him, to make sure they are not looking.
Then he quickly jerks his head towards the camera, says a few words and shakes his head.
Nobody at the table sees him do it.

I dunno what he is saying, but it looks to me like this. He starts by saying a name.
He says something like '(name), do you have the cards?'. Then he shakes his head.

You're right it could be nothing at all, but it would be funny if he had just said the name of his accomplice. lol

We need lip-readers:

https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=5822

Starts at 1:37:03
He speaks to camera around 1:37:20

For the people who missed it, he revealed where the bone conductor thing sits

Pustule just ran his cards over the reader again

Lance, Do you have the cards?

https://youtu.be/eCq794jPkmU

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What an epic thread. I hope he gets what he deserves. There is no innocence here.

Looks like he's complaning he's not getting the feed.

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He and all the people who are in on it

A postle la vista baby!

One thing nobody has mentioned (I've been reading the thread since it was only a few pages long, but forgive me if for some reason this HAS in fact been said) -

Mike Postle has claimed that Stones is a very small fraction of his playing time, and specifically named FOUR other semi-local places he plays.

Why do those other 4 places NOT have a huge "hero" persona built up around Postle, like Stones Streaming games do? He has special nicknames like "the Apostle", and is SO good and has such a HUGE reputation that they make memes out of his greatness, making him either "Jesus", the "Messiah", or "The Devil". Shouldn't has playing ability and style yield similar results RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD, at every place he regularly plays? I mean, shouldn't he have the same success, accolades, and praise at every place he plays? Shouldn't the other 4 venues he named have special nicknames, memes, and the like, christening him with the same sort of superlatives that the Stones crew does?

This is my point - this hasn't happened to the best of what I can find out from searching and a few calls. I'll be specifically calling the other 4 venues he mentioned, to see if he has the same sort of incredible ability, results, and therefore reputation, that the Stones crew have given him. This strongly suggests that his incredible ability only exists during Stones streaming games - should he not have similar results and reputation at every venue he plays at, considering his own statements claim that Stones streaming games are only a fraction of his total playing time? If as Postle claims, that his results are a function of his experience and ability to read other players incredibly accurately and consistently, shouldn't this happen at the other 4 or more places he claims to play at as much or more than Stones? Why hasn't anyone from these places come forward and said "Postle is called the Apostle here too, and makes the same sort of incredible calls all the time at our place too"?

In fact his big defense is that the data that's been used to expose him isn't complete and therefore gives an incorrect result, giving him too much credit, making him out to be much better than he actually is, and that in fact his win rate and $ won is less than what's been claimed in all the analysis of the available videos so far - that's the crux of his defense, I think we can all agree on that, right? Well, if that's actually the case, why does every commentator, the Stones website, and everything to do with Stones poker, give Postle these nicknames, memes, and live commentary about just how incredible his play and reputation both are? It CANNOT be both ways, Postle can't claim that we're all "getting it wrong" about him, yet on the same hand have this incredible reputation that's been built up around his ability.

3JJ58 board (2 spades)

Pustule has 73off
Opponent has AQss (missed FD)

Opponent bets 400 on river and Pustule after the worst acting job in the history of the human race calls.

Is this really an unaltered pic? Bang bang if so.

Superusing is such a bad term.

Let's just call it cheating.

I keep coming back to this post - how isn't this actual statistical proof that Taylor is the inside man? It's close to impossible for this to be coincidence. It's a perfect correlation over like 10 instances

It is xD It's in the first 15min of the new joey investigation #6