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Old 10-06-2019, 02:32 AM   #4501
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Postle played the childish heads up for stacks card in the Matusow interview. No one should dignify this guy by playing him. His poker life should end now.

Does he think he can be vindicated by playing heads up matches?
What a joke.

The only heads up match he should ever be allowed to play is against Russ Hamilton. I think we could call it The Godmode Match but I'm sure NVG could find a better name for it.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:35 AM   #4502
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I didn't see anything very suspicious when I skimmed through it earlier, as his usual cheating method (staring at his crotch) wasn't evident in the hands I looked at. A few times he just started texting and acting normally.
But then there was this hand: https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=5586
When the lawyer binks a 7 on the river, Mike looks so pained that even the commentators remark on it, saying that the 7 is basically a blank, so how does he know? The lawyer barrels, and eventually Mike tank-raises with AQ high (which seems ridiculous) to make the lawyer fold.
Maybe this (Dec 17, 2018) is a god-mode session after all.
Somebody get this to joey
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:37 AM   #4503
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So... in this hand the ''crusher'' is cold calling a 3bet from the BB with T8o - really profitable play!

Btw, didn't he say that he only plays these junk hand when there's a meaning to it?
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:39 AM   #4504
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The "not able track buyins" is bullshit... The entire stream is there. When someone isn't losing there is no reason to re-buy or top off their stack... idiot. Burn
The $1/$3 and $2/$5 are table max games. If the fish on my right gets lucky early and doubles up from $1500 to $3k, and I'm still sitting on my original stack, you'd better bet I'm adding on to match the fish.

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Old 10-06-2019, 02:45 AM   #4505
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I didn't see anything very suspicious when I skimmed through it earlier, as his usual cheating method (staring at his crotch) wasn't evident in the hands I looked at. A few times he just started texting and acting normally.
But then there was this hand: https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=5586
When the lawyer binks a 7 on the river, Mike looks so pained that even the commentators remark on it, saying that the 7 is basically a blank, so how does he know? The lawyer barrels, and eventually Mike tank-raises with AQ high (which seems ridiculous) to make the lawyer fold.
Maybe this (Dec 17, 2018) is a god-mode session after all.
He stares at his crotch in that hand, it's just a bit more subtle than usual.



Edit: for some reason the image isn't linking properly.
https://imgur.com/a/3RmwVkK

Personally, I think all this about hat stuffing and keys are red hearings. Every god mode session I've seen, the guy is constantly staring at his crotch. I think he just gets the card info directly from his phone. There are non-god-mode sessions where he has his keys on the table, and also some god mode sessions where he doesn't. There doesn't seem to be a correlation, going back to 2018. Also, he wears many different kinds of hats throughout. I think if you were gonna do the bone conductive headset thing, it would make more sense to have a dedicated hat for that that's ideal for the job in terms of fit, inconspicuousness, etc. that you could then sow the bone conductive stuff in or whatever. I believe the reason he's always grabbing his hat is to make it look like he has some kind of tough decision in order to make him looking at his crotch somewhat less suspicious.

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Old 10-06-2019, 02:47 AM   #4506
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The $1/$3 and $2/$5 are table max games. If the fish on my right gets lucky early and doubles up from $1500 to $3k, and I'm still sitting on my original stack, you'd better bet I'm adding on to match the fish.

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Ok so on that guys linkedn it says he does all the graphics... My #1 suspect this whole time has been whoever makes those douche insulting of course mike is a god memes. Finally here is the guy waving him away from the table as soon as RFID is out. Joey had it at the very end of the stream but when was that guys?
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:49 AM   #4507
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The guy doesn’t ask him to come either that motion with his arms is like a command get the hell over here now
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:54 AM   #4508
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Ok so on that guys linkedn it says he does all the graphics... My #1 suspect this whole time has been whoever makes those douche insulting of course mike is a god memes. Finally here is the guy waving him away from the table as soon as RFID is out. Joey had it at the very end of the stream but when was that guys?
wait, why would the guy making god memes be culpable?
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:54 AM   #4509
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Somebody get this to joey
Wow that one is a new favorite,

How many clips are there now where the commentary say something insane but they are actually right? The commentary there saying "he looks pained but how could he know the 7 hurt him?" There was one where commentary says something along lines of "its almost like they are playing face up"
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:55 AM   #4510
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I didn't see anything very suspicious when I skimmed through it earlier, as his usual cheating method (staring at his crotch) wasn't evident in the hands I looked at. A few times he just started texting and acting normally.
But then there was this hand: https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=5586
When the lawyer binks a 7 on the river, Mike looks so pained that even the commentators remark on it, saying that the 7 is basically a blank, so how does he know? The lawyer barrels, and eventually Mike tank-raises with AQ high (which seems ridiculous) to make the lawyer fold.
Maybe this (Dec 17, 2018) is a god-mode session after all.
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He stares at his crotch in that hand, it's just a bit more subtle than usual.



Edit: for some reason the image isn't linking properly.
https://imgur.com/a/3RmwVkK
This is the most damning hand i have seen there is NO other explanation for his facial expressions when the 7 hits the river unless you can see the cards EVEN the Commontators agree and then followed by a REDICULOUS Bluff.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:58 AM   #4511
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Ok so on that guys linkedn it says he does all the graphics... My #1 suspect this whole time has been whoever makes those douche insulting of course mike is a god memes. Finally here is the guy waving him away from the table as soon as RFID is out. Joey had it at the very end of the stream but when was that guys?
That would be the first guy i would want to talk to if I was a third party investigating this. All of the tech background he has and the fact that he says he is responsible for all of the "back of the house equipment is working properly". He started in September of 2017. What is the date we have of Mike's first alleged cheating session?
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:03 AM   #4512
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That would be the first guy i would want to talk to if I was a third party investigating this. All of the tech background he has and the fact that he says he is responsible for all of the "back of the house equipment is working properly". He started in September of 2017. What is the date we have of Mike's first alleged cheating session?
The first stream I've found of confirmed god mode is Jul 30, 2018. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWPHGvuqDg

It is quite an interesting stream to go through, currently going through it and taking notes. Mike appears to have technical difficulties with his god mode at the beginning. Doing a lot of texting and other things on his phone, standing up, etc. My hypothesis is that him standing up is meant to be some kind of signal to somebody that things aren't working.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:04 AM   #4513
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wait, why would the guy making god memes be culpable?
Real question is why would they be doing them period? Its so insanely unprofessional. Theres people losing serious money in this game and they love to refer to them as his "victims." Look at the interview Justin (everyones top pick for his inside guy). Why would he do that interview with mike knowing hes cheating? He even asks him questions like "Do you ever feel bad?" If anything the graphics guy may be the one in on it and someones telling him to just make them. He can't say no we can't do that mikes cheating guys so he makes them.

Everyone including espn has pointed to justin as the main guy because when justins out of town mike loses or doesn't play. I still think theres a good shot that justin isn't in on it but rather Justin needs to be on property for them to pull it off. My first guess was maybe Justin uses a certain laptop for everything with the stream and they put a trojan on it. Maybe Mike played him befriending him to get him his guard down to pull it off. Then when Justins out of town a different laptop is used because he takes that one with him or has it a password on it who knows.

Lets assume Justin is the guy helping him cheat. After he watches the first session he'd have to tell him to back off he needs to make it look good. Now lets assume the graphics guy is the inside guy. Why would the graphics guy know anything about poker to question the optics.

Either situation Justin is in on it and dumb enough to not realize how obvious it looks or Justin is dumb enough not to see the obvious cheating right in front of his eyes. I think both Justin and Mike started to believe this God complex they built up for him.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:05 AM   #4514
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wait, why would the guy making god memes be culpable?
Guy making god memes , Postle thinking blah blah blah, probably thinks they help justify mikes crazy play to just make it seem like he’s really good instead of actually cheating. When he says I felt like I had to put on a show, that his him secretly deflecting blame on the graphics and false narrative because he would rather just be quiet low key incognito. Classic cheater that doesn’t want to blame themselves, classic narcissism.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:08 AM   #4515
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I think we should cease discussing whether he will face criminal penalties, and what type of charges he could face. It's useless speculation which will clog the thread. Short of a true smoking gun which would convince a lay person, or one of the co-conspirators copping to the whole thing, he's not going to be criminally charged. It simply won't happen. You'd be surprised how tough it can be to get people criminally charged for fraud these days. No DA would touch this one at this point.

A civil case, with a much lower burden of proof, is much more of a possibility. Postle (who I believe has a bad sportsbetting habit and is likely not very flush with cash at this point) probably isn't very collectable. Stones definitely is collectable, and they're probably most vulnerable to a civil suit.

With Postle, a civil suit could at least stress him out and cause him to have to spend money on a defense, which will at least be a moral victory no matter what, especially if the plaintiff attorney takes the case on contingency.

Anyway, it kinda annoys me to keep reading, "This guy will be in jail soon" because no, he probably won't.

I really wish he would be arrested, and he definitely deserves a nice long sentence for this, but it's just unlikely to happen.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:09 AM   #4516
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That would be the first guy i would want to talk to if I was a third party investigating this. All of the tech background he has and the fact that he says he is responsible for all of the "back of the house equipment is working properly". He started in September of 2017. What is the date we have of Mike's first alleged cheating session?
September 2017 eh? When did that added extra wall that conceals a desk get installed according to Veronica?
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:15 AM   #4517
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This is the most damning hand i have seen there is NO other explanation for his facial expressions when the 7 hits the river unless you can see the cards EVEN the Commontators agree and then followed by a REDICULOUS Bluff.
Go to 1:28 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pSU...outu.be&t=5586

Maybe im on no sleep but i think it is even more insane than that. First go back to the hand before where mike just pulls off a massive overbet shove with total air to bluff the guy off top pair (this dude seems to be in every clip I hope hes talked to a lawyer). Then you will hear the commentary say that the vpip for the players are on screen and the lawyer is vpip 100 percent and Mike instantly looks up at the camera and smirks.

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:20 AM   #4518
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Guy making god memes , Postle thinking blah blah blah, probably thinks they help justify mikes crazy play to just make it seem like he’s really good instead of actually cheating. When he says I felt like I had to put on a show, that his him secretly deflecting blame on the graphics and false narrative because he would rather just be quiet low key incognito. Classic cheater that doesn’t want to blame themselves, classic narcissism.
so you need to give the guy a cut of an illegal cheating scheme to make some memes?
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:22 AM   #4519
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Totally agree.

The fact that the streams seem to be separated by "obviously cheated" and "didn't cheat at all", it's most likely that this was more of an inside-man type of breach, rather than a super-hacker breach.

If Mike didn't need anyone else's help, he would have cheated at some point on every stream. There were some streams where he clearly didn't cheat once.
Has there been someone who calculated the win-rate on nights where people are 90+ percent that he was in god-mode, vs the other nights??

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:24 AM   #4520
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Go to 1:28 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pSU...outu.be&t=5586

Maybe im on no sleep but i think it is even more insane than that. First go back to the hand before where mike just pulls off a massive overbet shove with total air to bluff the guy off top pair (this dude seems to be in every clip I hope hes talked to a lawyer). Then you will hear the commentary say that the vpip for the players are on screen and the lawyer is vpip 100 percent and Mike instantly looks up at the camera and smirks.
the commentary isnt live
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:25 AM   #4521
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Real question is why would they be doing them period? Its so insanely unprofessional. Theres people losing serious money in this game and they love to refer to them as his "victims." Look at the interview Justin (everyones top pick for his inside guy). Why would he do that interview with mike knowing hes cheating? He even asks him questions like "Do you ever feel bad?" If anything the graphics guy may be the one in on it and someones telling him to just make them. He can't say no we can't do that mikes cheating guys so he makes them.



Everyone including espn has pointed to justin as the main guy because when justins out of town mike loses or doesn't play. I still think theres a good shot that justin isn't in on it but rather Justin needs to be on property for them to pull it off. My first guess was maybe Justin uses a certain laptop for everything with the stream and they put a trojan on it. Maybe Mike played him befriending him to get him his guard down to pull it off. Then when Justins out of town a different laptop is used because he takes that one with him or has it a password on it who knows.



Lets assume Justin is the guy helping him cheat. After he watches the first session he'd have to tell him to back off he needs to make it look good. Now lets assume the graphics guy is the inside guy. Why would the graphics guy know anything about poker to question the optics.



Either situation Justin is in on it and dumb enough to not realize how obvious it looks or Justin is dumb enough not to see the obvious cheating right in front of his eyes. I think both Justin and Mike started to believe this God complex they built up for him.
Graphics guy and producer (Justin and Lance) are both competent poker players and would understand the optics more than Justin (doesn't play poker)

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Old 10-06-2019, 03:26 AM   #4522
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He stares at his crotch in that hand, it's just a bit more subtle than usual.



Edit: for some reason the image isn't linking properly.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:29 AM   #4523
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In two Mouth 'interviews' I did not hear MP EVEN ONCE say:

-I did not cheat
-I did not have access to hole cards


If YOU were in his situation, and were completely innocent, HOW MANY TIMES in 90 minutes + would you have said these?




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Old 10-06-2019, 03:30 AM   #4524
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Graphics guy and producer (Justin and Lance) are both competent poker players and would understand the optics more than Justin (doesn't play poker)

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I assume you mean Taylor Smith and Lance Hudspeth are both competent poker players.

Taylor Smith is listed as a Broadcaster/Commentator, producer, and a poker dae...ler.

Lance Hudspeth is listed as the Executive Producer. He has dealt the WSOP Main Event and has a Bachelor's degree in computer science.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:32 AM   #4525
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I would just like to take a minute to appreciate how badly Joey wants that challenge...

https://youtu.be/M6yLN32LpGQ?t=919
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