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Old 10-05-2019, 09:19 PM   #4276
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Just thought I'd offer some thoughts from a different point of view as it's the first poker related story/drama I've seriously followed in a decade or so. And it certainly is interesting as so much of it is on video but here are just a couple of thoughts that are not directly related to this but are from a more meta level perspective....

1. In general... the truth is that there are a hell of a lot of scumbags in live poker. This sort of thing literally goes on all the time. Many would consider it "part of the hustle", or just a different form of having an edge. So many of you seem to think you've caught this single guy and feel like he must be held to account and karma / righteousness must reign down upon him+whomever else is involved. This is being naive and not really living in reality. The sad truth is that many posting here would do the same if they had the chance. How many of us at some point or another wished we somehow had psychic abilities to read others thoughts at the table ?

Sure, most of us all hold fairness as a virtue to some degree ... but the moral signalling of some people is just funny. Like "OMG, he was cheating a cancer patient..." . Truth is if you've played for a living you have won a bunch of money of people (or .. "that massive fish lol" ) who have had serious problems in their lives.

2. In the grand scheme of things, Poker/Gambling scams/dishonesty are a drop in the Ocean compared to the massive fraud and theft that is taking place constantly by the parasitic elite powers that be on the peasants. It's just you don't see this and believe it's all a part of 'civil society' Regular people that produce value and do honest work to provide for themselves/their families are kept on the mouse wheel needing to run faster and faster whilst the team which involves government/banksters/mega corps keep us in a form of comfortable slavery and selling out your childrens & societies future to enrich themselves.

I know that some may find it a little dark and somewhat out of the boundaries of this current entertaining drama but I try to give people some perspective.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:20 PM   #4277
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My favorite thing about Mike is that he has clearly been trying to brand himself as a poker crusher for many years. He's not a crusher, but is probably a competent live player who can beat some lineups. As a competent player, he could have been sneaky with his cheating, kept it going for longer, and gotten away with it. Instead, he made the cheating blatantly obvious because he was having so much fun being recognized as a poker god.

Wait, what?

How is that a competent live player call 4bets with 54o and flats huge raises pre flop with j4o from the button?

He is either bad at poker or a cheater (justifying these actions).
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:20 PM   #4278
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You do realize most people in poker lose right? Some people are fun players. I am not saying hes one just saying your logic is absurd here. I think for sure some people in game need to be investigated. Mike could have given them the same tech hes using or just be signaling them in big pots. I don't know this guy but if people are saying hes a regular in the room and plays the same then its probably the case. I have played in games where a players show up for months or even years that are clearly not beating the game. Some people have money and enjoy the game let them play. Again not saying thats what he is by any means he could just be running bad on stream and also hard to win in a game with someone superusing and doing it the way mikes doing. If mike was only using it a hand or 2 maybe few others could book actual winning in game but mike feels the need to play every hand and play every hand optimally vs the hands in play.
they KNEW what was going on inside this dirty casino
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:21 PM   #4279
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Didn't know Microsoft hired people with an iq below 70
Buy one of their products, you will see they exclusively hire such people.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:22 PM   #4280
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Wtf is going on with the inside of his hat here?
https://youtu.be/09jdsX8vkMI?t=4460
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:22 PM   #4281
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It wouldve been so awesome if someone ballsy just snatched his crotch phone and saw the live feed
I think thats why he always had his hand doen there. Just in case something strange were to happen he could at least control phone.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:22 PM   #4282
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Matusow put a poll on his twitter and I hope folks are voting yes (it's tight right now) to release part 2 despite the disgrace that is Mike M's interview prep and conduct.

Saying "yes ty for doing your best" acknowledges that Mike M's best is the nut low but nonetheless..I know I'd like to hear part 2
thanks for sharing this. matusow is really ****ing milking this one. 2 parts and now a poll? guys got some ****ing nerve. i voted "no youre an idiot" bc theres no way this ****tard doesnt release this regardless of the poll. hes just doing this to quell the hate. hes so ****ing manipulative.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:22 PM   #4283
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It's even more notable with 10 episodes of Taylor commentating, of which Mike played in 4.

Taylor commentating, no Mike.
February 29th 2019 https://youtu.be/e7I7NWix7oU?t=12785
March 5th 2019 https://youtu.be/TaGK2VbiWtM?t=13978
April 15th 2019 https://youtu.be/Mma07huUBec?t=1670
June 19th 2019 https://youtu.be/BBiwK-gWXGw?t=1308
July 3rd 2019 https://youtu.be/g9Ky-8Yl5k4?t=1082
July 10th 2019 https://youtu.be/xTUMt-NAkc8?t=1168

Taylor commentating, Mike playing but not superusing
March 18th https://youtu.be/7tTGzkTMz20?t=1216
April 1st 2019 https://youtu.be/3Al-mY8G5pg?t=13947
July 1st 2019 https://youtu.be/SiADleDLQak?t=14583

Taylor commentating, Mike playing but not superusing while Taylor was commentating
March 16th https://youtu.be/t59ddLJv6mo?t=12360


With Mike superusing in half the episodes this makes it statistically almost impossible Taylor isn't in on it.
I have to quote this again for more opinions on it. It's the most damning evidence I've seen as far as accomplices go tbh. Leaning towards Kuraitis really just being mega_potato_brain_9000 and Taylor Smith being the inside man now
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:25 PM   #4284
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Can't tell if Mike is cheating in this episode/hand, or just inexplicably in full-on agro mode whilst de-Godded:
https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM?t=2953
(from $1$2$3 NLHE ($1 on the button) with Justin Kelly and Kasey Mills 12/17/18)
As much as people don't want to hear it, he really does sometimes go crazy post-flop, without knowing the holecards. The commentators mention Postle and The Lawyer are battling to be table captain.
FWIW, later in that session, Postle 3-bet/calls AQo when the Lawyer has QQ (and someone else has TT), and then snap-folds on JJx. In superuser mode, I think he plays it very differently.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:26 PM   #4285
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they KNEW what was going on inside this dirty casino
Who is they? My comment was calling out losing players in the game because who would continue to play in the game if they weren't in on it is horrible logic. I would also guess that someone who is losing big at poker would think that what mike is doing is possible. Notice how this entire thread agrees mike is cheating but most are worried about convincing a jury. I would assume that a lot of fun players saw him as their "phil ivey" and just idolized him. I also think thats why this game may be so loose. So many people are seeing mike playing absurd hands and trying to emulate it hoping to win.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:27 PM   #4286
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Wtf is going on with the inside of his hat here?
https://youtu.be/09jdsX8vkMI?t=4460
If he used something like this the only bulge will be the controller/battery pack. The transducers are small






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Old 10-05-2019, 09:28 PM   #4287
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

i think the front of this ole miss hat has the device embedded. and whats that white towel "turban" underneath. im sold, he cheated...

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Wtf is going on with the inside of his hat here?
https://youtu.be/09jdsX8vkMI?t=4460
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:29 PM   #4288
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Nearly as incredible as the first time you posted it. This incredible hand has single-handedly tripled your post count here.
Thank you Mr Internet Detective! Maybe i was looking for better feedback than your reply
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:30 PM   #4289
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Who is they? My comment was calling out losing players in the game because who would continue to play in the game if they weren't in on it is horrible logic. I would also guess that someone who is losing big at poker would think that what mike is doing is possible. Notice how this entire thread agrees mike is cheating but most are worried about convincing a jury. I would assume that a lot of fun players saw him as their "phil ivey" and just idolized him. I also think thats why this game may be so loose. So many people are seeing mike playing absurd hands and trying to emulate it hoping to win.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:31 PM   #4290
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:35 PM   #4291
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I have to quote this again for more opinions on it. It's the most damning evidence I've seen as far as accomplices go tbh. Leaning towards Kuraitis really just being mega_potato_brain_9000 and Taylor Smith being the inside man now
I think thats whats happening here as well. I have jumped back and forth on justin being either braindead and just being a fangirl and not being smart enough to realize what mike was doing isn't possible and him being the inside man. Watching the video where he interviews Mike it seriously gives off the impression that he just doesn't see it and thinks Mike is a God. Also lets say that Justin is his inside man wouldn't he see the play and tell Mike he has to calm down with the play. Would Justin really interview him knowing hes cheating? I feel like the graphics guy being the inside man would make the most sense. This guy wouldn't exactly have to know much about poker either so wouldn't think that Mike's play is outside the realm of possibilities.

Either way Justin either is in or it or the most incompetent floor/supervisor ever to not think something up. Also if he was the one who everyone reported the cheating to did he even investigate anything? If so how did he rule no cheating was happening or was he just covering for his friend thinking it wouldnt blow up?
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:35 PM   #4292
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Popular vlogger Jaman Burton's thumbnail from about a year ago was meant to be a shout out to Postle but now it has an entirely new meaning. And if you wonder if Postle had a winning night just listen to the commentator.

https://youtu.be/9L6DueV9aHc?t=1340
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:36 PM   #4293
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Thats a very good point I overlooked bc I already know hes 1000% guilty. not just 100%, but 1000% so you know im serious.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:40 PM   #4294
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgSEVtJqfzE

Found an episode of mike cheating during tournament play, the signs are there he has the under armour hat with the bulge on in this stream, nobody looked into this? it only has 200 views. Mike absolutely DOMINATES this tournament he doesnt take it down in first place due to obvious reasons in the video he ends up getting 3rd place
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He's definitely getting the information relayed to him in this tourney through a speaker and not the stream on his phone. You can specifically see him hold near his ear while he's getting the card info.



Hand at 32:51: https://youtu.be/CgSEVtJqfzE?t=1961
I’ve watched this stream, he’s NOT in GOD mode! If you watch videos that he’s in God mode, he acts totally different. He plays normal during this $550 Sit&Go, but runs well. IMO
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:40 PM   #4295
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He's definitely getting the information relayed to him in this tourney through a speaker and not the stream on his phone. You can specifically see him hold near his ear while he's getting the card info.



Hand at 32:51: https://youtu.be/CgSEVtJqfzE?t=1961
Wow that looks awfully suspicious.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:41 PM   #4296
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The white stuff(stuffing?) under the bill of his hat. Could just be the kind of hat, but it seems pronounced to me and it doesn't show on his left side. You can see it a few times during the interview.
In that video, I think he's wearing an Ole Miss hat similar to this one: https://www.fanatics.com/college/ole...ID:i-r0c0:po-0
It's mainly mesh, but appears to have an elasticated toweling "headband" sort of thing going right around the edges. Postle's is probably just a bit frayed under the peak.
Other hats he wore looked padded in a more peculiar way.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:43 PM   #4297
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As much as people don't want to hear it, he really does sometimes go crazy post-flop, without knowing the holecards. The commentators mention Postle and The Lawyer are battling to be table captain.
FWIW, later in that session, Postle 3-bet/calls AQo when the Lawyer has QQ (and someone else has TT), and then snap-folds on JJx. In superuser mode, I think he plays it very differently.
Agree, I watched most of the episode, and don't believe he is cheating in this session. It's interesting, I think there are sessions where his confidence or attitude is just way up, and it does seem to completely change his nature/style of play to an agro-style, that feels a lot like his pre-flop antics/style in god-mode, but where he doesn't seem to be cheating, as those super strange post-flop suspicious situations, and perfect-for-the-specific-hands decisions, don't appear to manifest.

re: https://youtu.be/4pSUbMEXHGM (12/17/18)
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:44 PM   #4298
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Matusow put a poll on his twitter and I hope folks are voting yes (it's tight right now) to release part 2 despite the disgrace that is Mike M's interview prep and conduct.

Saying "yes ty for doing your best" acknowledges that Mike M's best is the nut low but nonetheless..I know I'd like to hear part 2
I took one for the team and voted #1 even tho I wanted to vote #2.
I want to hear it but..
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:48 PM   #4299
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Theres no shot hes a competent live player in 2019 if he thought his play wasn't full of red flags. How do you know about potripper scandal and not realize what it takes to cheat. Thank god hes a total idiot or he could have printed for the lifetime of the game. Dude should have just played normal ranges and situations and just superused in big spots. Instead the dude wants to play every hand preflop and win every hand he can even if it means calling 2 streets with gutter (67 os) vs 2 people then donk jam when they both miss their fd and have no pair.
The thing is thise streams are ussually like less than 4 hours long. So he could have but you know damn well if wouldnt be many spots for him. Still you are right.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:49 PM   #4300
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can't wait for episode 2 tonight
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