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Old 10-05-2019, 05:06 PM   #4101
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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As this case is increasingly becoming like Cluedo, with so many suspects, here is a link to an end of Stones show (a sit n go, which Postle chopped) where they show a feature "Meet the Team", with the team describing themselves

https://youtu.be/CswNmIQvI0o?t=25918
Wow this is incredible!!!! Unreal find.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:07 PM   #4102
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Good catch. It's an infiniti keychain. Nissan makes Infiniti. Postle recently bought a new Infiniti.

BTW this was first mentioned a couple days ago:
https://youtu.be/09jdsX8vkMI?t=6951

First time he has ever bought a new car.

What did he do with his millions from online poker? By his own admission, rolling in cash pre-2010 from crushing online ... but he never bought a new car ... until just recently.

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Old 10-05-2019, 05:07 PM   #4103
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I think he needs to be punished harder than this:
Quoting just so i can see it again.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:08 PM   #4104
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Good catch. It's an infiniti keychain. Nissan makes Infiniti. Postle recently bought a new Infiniti.



BTW this was first mentioned a couple days ago:
I guess a question that should be asked is whether or not the key is always at least consistent with what he is driving. If he was at least prudent enough to update his keys when his car brands change that would benefit his case, but if not, that would be damning as hell. And I can more than easily see someone being too lazy to update keys relative to their cheating if you had one that already worked.

Also, does he ever do the key thing in his non-cheating sessions? Never seen that talked about.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:09 PM   #4105
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When he uses his bracelet for the first time Joey notices that they are also using a new deck for the first time. It is so obvious, new deck new cheating program bought. All in all actually a very simple explanation. Still think Justin is probably unwitting accomplice but who knows.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:09 PM   #4106
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What? It wouldn't be useless at all. You get two serial numbers every hand you're dealt. You also get another 3 for every flop seen. How many hands before you'd have every ID in the entire deck with a corresponding card?
Its harder than you think. You get two sn per hand but which of the 2 cards does it belong to? If there are two decks and shuffler you also have two sets of Sn's
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:10 PM   #4107
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No, the impression I get is that Taylor was behind the curtain by comms (well, he definitely is when he's talking to comms). I guess he must be 'producing' the live feed there?
Is he walking in through the curtain here whilst he double-tasks? He then pops back out to turn the stream on. He definitely knows all about the tech. Doesn't seem like he is walking across the room and back, or has the time to do so. And even if he was, who is in charge of the live feed in Justin's area?
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:13 PM   #4108
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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As this case is increasingly becoming like Cluedo, with so many suspects, here is a link to an end of Stones show (a sit n go, which Postle chopped) where they show a feature "Meet the Team", with the team describing themselves

https://youtu.be/CswNmIQvI0o?t=25918
Nice, finally a list of all the suspects!
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:16 PM   #4109
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Wait a second can someone post the first picture of the keys we had ITT? Might’ve just bought a new car but not if the first picture was dated after this picture? Someone should date the first pic of the keys idk when they were from
The keyfob was investigated about a day and half ago. I'm not sure at what point he bought his car (a Nissan/Infiniti) but in some streams he has the keyfob shown in the recent pictures ITT, and in others (not sure if earlier or later) he used a rubber cover/protector that looks like this one: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/70oAA...rXL/s-l640.jpg

The consensus was that the keyfob is legit, and it's a red herring if you're looking for a card-reading device. (Unless, of course, he doesn't own an Infiniti).

P.S. At some point I think he changed his phone, or put a new cover on it, just like millions of normal people do.

EDIT: Kerr just pointed out that the first mention of the new car is on the stream dated April 6th, 2019.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:17 PM   #4110
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Take a look inside the hat:



Source: NLHE 01-09-19
"https://youtu.be/PR6eMJZ3STk?t=15794"

What do you guys think? Is there something inside?
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:18 PM   #4111
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Re: the hair under the hat thing

Calm down gentlemen, it’s just a really bad fade haircut from a guy stuck style wise in the 90s
This.
This thread could easily be 200 posts if all the repeated ideas and bs weren’t here
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:20 PM   #4112
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

so there are five 'live techs'.

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Old 10-05-2019, 05:22 PM   #4113
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

So far I think theres no debate if hes cheating. There are a few things in question.

I still think Mike can't see the boards atleast not the entire time. The first hand that made me think this is the imfamous 95 os hand vs 46 and aq. Yes its suspect that he called pre and flopped a pair but his flop line is what got me. He insta donkjams flop to blow aq off to make sure he didn't improve. The aq would have bricked out if he had known this he would have checked to induce. The other hand is the aa vs i think it was k2dd. The flop was total air for k2dd but mike gave off a free card knowing he wouldnt call with no pair no draw. The turn guy picked up flush draw and check called a bet and rivers the flush and mike folds. If mike knew the guy makes the winner he would have barreled the flop to take it down.

The other reason is the coolers he could avoid. That QT hand vs kj that was posted earlier is a prime example. If mike knew he would have lost he would have either folded preflop to avoid the cooler (which given his style may have looked sketch folding qt pre) or he could have bombed the flop bc kj would have snap folded. Theres other examples of this but im certain he cant see the boards atleast in their entirety and for all sessions.

The other debate is if he has an inside man. I think if you polled this thread itd be 95/5 justin/taylor. I think it may be something that hasn't been heavily being discussed is he can only pull this off when justin is there. Everyone says mike is likeable maybe he buddied up justin to get close to him and put usb/trojan on his laptop he uses when the streams up. This would explain when justins not there this laptop isn't in play. This may not exempt taylor because the graphics thing is insanely sketchy. Don't get me wrong justin is still the worst. He is either guilty as hell or incompetent.

I also think we need to consider other players being at the table cheating. You have a guy this cocky who was around during potripper days and gets the golden ticket and his first thought isn't "i gotta make this look good." I thought maybe a chance he started out being careful to make it look legit, but no seems like he came out going for it right away. If you are this cocky and stupid at some point wouldn't you also bring in a friend. This friend could be for someone for Mike to purposely lose some pots to (someone people did hero mike super light) because maybe he may have thought hey i gotta lose some hands. Mike was clearly too greedy with this win rate to dump to someone hes cheating in the game so would have done it to a friend. Another option is the friend is also super using but passed the 4th grade and knows to only use it a few times. Theres a chance this person may not even need whatever tool mikes using but mike could just signal him in big pots. Could do this with shuffle of chips differently, a cough, a yawn, anything really.

Also ive spent a ton of time in casinos. Aren't there cameras everywhere? Shouldn't they have clear video and possible audio of every square inch of pokeroom including the behind the scenes? Clearly whoever investigated this, assuming they did any at all, would have seen what was going on and couldn't afford for the truth to come out.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:27 PM   #4114
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Guys the first picture we have of his keys is around page 99 and from August 6th. They are completely different than the keys in his “new” Infiniti from Jaman Burtons vlog TEN MONTHS AGO. HELLoOOOOo it is a rigged deck brought by technology guy and he has readers in his bracelet and fake keyfob that relay hole cards to his bone conduction headset. Case closed please look at the two different keyfobs
They weren’t different, they just had a key cover on them
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:27 PM   #4115
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This.
This thread could easily be 200 posts if all the repeated ideas and bs weren’t here
Unfortunately this forum’s software is balls. For example, you can’t get notifications if you have been mentioned or quoted. Most threads don’t blow up like this so it’s usually not an issue.

No more investigation is needed. What we need is action from police, gaming authorities, lawyers. There’s no point looking at more hands and Mike’s hair or hat or keys or bracelet.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:29 PM   #4116
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Its harder than you think. You get two sn per hand but which of the 2 cards does it belong to? If there are two decks and shuffler you also have two sets of Sn's
Yours? Even if we assume the reader can't distinguish your individual cards you're getting 2 sn per hand that have to be one card or the other. You're also getting 1/3 chance of a certain card being a certain sn every flop on 3 other sns. Writing a app that automatically calculated probability of certain sn to certain cards and allows you to input a few cards each round you choose to input them is not rocket science. It's certainly not adding much to the complexity by adding the ability to select from two decks.

Anyone who can get the RFID serial numbers(especially static ones) of cards could have a huge edge with limited effort.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:29 PM   #4117
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Did you watch the stream? He came in second and if you watched hours and noticed something suspicious, it would help to include time stamps. Thanks for the link.
in the comments mikes brother says they chopped the payout. go figure!
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:31 PM   #4118
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^^stones prolly already knows exactly what was going on..only question is, how thy proceed from now on
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:32 PM   #4119
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Unfortunately this forum’s software is balls. For example, you can’t get notifications if you have been mentioned or quoted. Most threads don’t blow up like this so it’s usually not an issue.

No more investigation is needed. What we need is action from police, gaming authorities, lawyers. There’s no point looking at more hands and Mike’s hair or hat or keys or bracelet.
Yeah I don't even want to hear him dumb explain his hands. IDC. He himself gave numbers of basically 200bb/100 for 277 hours. That's it. That right there proves he's cheating. Unequivocally.

One of the dumbest things I've ever heard a poker player say honestly. Let alone one that is being accused of cheating lol.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:34 PM   #4120
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgSEVtJqfzE

Found an episode of mike cheating during tournament play, the signs are there he has the under armour hat with the bulge on in this stream, nobody looked into this? it only has 200 views. Mike absolutely DOMINATES this tournament he doesnt take it down in first place due to obvious reasons in the video he ends up getting 3rd place
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:34 PM   #4121
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Justin has not been in. Also the dealers are openly talking about the situation so the theory of a gag order on employees is incorrect. Taylor and Lance have been there and fwiw they were the only dealers not talking about the situation.

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I was there Tuesday and Thursday, did not see JFK. Stones 100k Mini Main Event is running this weekend and JFK was on Good Day Sacramento to promote it. So if he's not there this weekend, that would be a sign.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:35 PM   #4122
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Is he walking in through the curtain here whilst he double-tasks? He then pops back out to turn the stream on. He definitely knows all about the tech. Doesn't seem like he is walking across the room and back, or has the time to do so. And even if he was, who is in charge of the live feed in Justin's area?
That stream is really bizarre. I mentioned it about 1500 posts ago, when I pretty much accused Taylor of being the main accomplice. Justin (and several other staff) were away, so Taylor was both commentating and being floorman for that stream. He kept going out to the floor as there were problems. He mentions being overworked and being very tired. Someone else (not implicated in cheating - I think his name is Lance) was in control of the broadcast. Postle doesn't cheat in that session. He doesn't even wear a hat.
Postle mostly cheats when Taylor is in the building, but not in the commentary booth.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:39 PM   #4123
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Those are infiniti keys.. HE even states that his last two cars have been infinitis on stream
Nissan/Infiniti are the same company and platform
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:41 PM   #4124
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I honestly think the bigger question that needs answered here is why are cheaters, angle shooters, scam artists, deadbeats and just general pieces of **** are allowed to do the things they do in the poker community with absolutely zero repercussions either legally of from the community?

There is a long list of *******s that have had nothing, NOTHING done to them or about them once they rip off the community.
Agree 100%
If you wanted to scam someone, a poker player is the easiest target for a variety of reasons.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:44 PM   #4125
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I'm going to guess you can't answer the question.

Not complaining about my losses, just wondering if it is technically feasible.

But you are right, I always have a seat.

I have beaten other local home games out of 5 figures over the course of a year.

Also, played profitably in the few cash games while visiting WSOPc and been profitable in other casino cash games.

It's just this game just gets my money every time.
So don't play. It doesn't really matter why you are losing. Maybe you are being cheated, or maybe your playing style does not match up well against those opponents, or maybe those opponents are just really good, or maybe they have a read on you, or maybe after a few bad sessions now you are "trying too hard" and playing an inferior game to your normal winning game. The solution is the same -- if you lose here and win everywhere else, play everywhere else.

The great thing about poker is that we have a choice. If you are a football player and your team can't beat a team in your division... too bad, you still have to play them. Not so in poker.
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