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Old 10-04-2019, 04:21 PM   #3201
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:23 PM   #3202
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Yep, I came to the same conclusion:
Yeah, I saw your post right after I went through a bunch of streams and felt better about my conclusion. I was going to quote it but then so many posts came through, I couldn't find it again.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:24 PM   #3203
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When the robber walks into the store he can swiftly take a couple things and conceal them or he could loudly grab everything and stuff it in his jacket so it's bulging out. You call the 2nd one greed but it's obviously greed and stupidity.
Yes, but is it stupidity or greed that caused the robber to do that? In some cases it's clearly stupidity. However, in this case it is clearly greed. I've seen nothing that tells me Mike Postle is a stupid person. He may not be a very good poker player anymore but I'd be surprised if he has a below average IQ.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:25 PM   #3204
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:27 PM   #3205
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I can't even fathom what this will be like


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Old 10-04-2019, 04:28 PM   #3206
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who wants to listen to 2 hours of complete lies, blatant cheating, and total delusional nonsense?

and mike postle is there too
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:28 PM   #3207
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Yes exactly. It's clear Postle lied about his hole cards and asked production staff to change graphics because he knew he would look guilty.
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But why would Postle suddenly become aware this ridiculous play would make him look guilty after he played the hand. If he was that aware he wouldn't cheat everyone every hand. Therefor I assume someone else is aware of how bad it looks and not Postle himself.
This is talking about the 96 vs 86/89 hand.

IMO this thing can be chalked up to greed on Postle's part. When he bet the river, knowing his opponent can't CALL, it's gonna be a pretty standard hand when the opponent folds.

However, opponent pulls the trigger with the hero RAISE (but leaving enough behind to fold). It's at this point things go haywire. Postle refuses to give up the pot, and someone in the production team seems to realize that it looks absolutely ridiculous, and the cards change value at this point.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:28 PM   #3208
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Lol. Thanks for bringing this dead thread back to life.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:28 PM   #3209
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I am moderately confident that August 22nd, 2018 was his first session where he was cheating.
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OK first time chiming in here.

I've gone thru 2018 in chronological order in the Stones YT page
Really nice work both of you thanks. Funny that the commentator on that very first T2s hand exclaims "It's like they are playing face up!". Is it just me or is his cap not bulging in that early cheating session?
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:28 PM   #3210
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In the phone texts posted by Veronica aka angry_polak in #2725, not once does Postle DENY he was cheating. That is very telling.


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His response is a bunch of garbage. Not once does he address the things he's accused of but rather deflects on his past history as a player.

Address the accusations. Talk us through some specific hands and your thought process.

I can see why a player who's struggling to make a living because he's *now* a below-average poker player would take an edge like this at this game, especially knowing his cheating-inclined background as confessed by his brother.. Maybe hoped to have more big games in his future.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:29 PM   #3211
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LOL.

Matusow got ****ed by a superuser on UB so I was wondering what his angle was. For sure, he knows hes guilty but played neutral to get him on his podcast. Matusow you sly dog you! I aint mad at him for this haha. Good work Ill be sure to tune in!
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:29 PM   #3212
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who wants to listen to 2 hours of complete lies, blatant cheating, and total delusional nonsense?

and mike postle is there too
lol wp
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:29 PM   #3213
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getting postle to speak on the record for 2 hours can only be a good thing IMO even if most of it is lies and BS
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:29 PM   #3214
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Mike "fat hat" Postle
Mike "bone-phones" Postle
Mike "the crotch watcher" Postle
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:30 PM   #3215
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Could turn out like when Ellie Elezra came to promote his book and defend himself.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:30 PM   #3216
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It would be nice if Matusow prepared for this interview by actually going over footage beforehand, otherwise it might just be Mike Postle hitting grand slam home runs for 2 hours. It should be entertaining from a humor standpoint at least (don't think the victims will find much humor in Postle's side though).
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:31 PM   #3217
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Yes, but is it stupidity or greed that caused the robber to do that? In some cases it's clearly stupidity. However, in this case it is clearly greed. I've seen nothing that tells me Mike Postle is a stupid person. He may not be a very good poker player anymore but I'd be surprised if he has a below average IQ.
Smart enough to never make a mistake? 100% success on bluffs, no post flop errors? No. My wife knows zippo about poker and she said....why didn't lose some on purpose to hide it?

He is either the greatest poker player ever or not bright enough to lose enough to show human error. I'll opt for the latter.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:31 PM   #3218
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The cards cant be misread, they can only be mislabelled. Prev hand could persist to next hand but Mike didnt have 98ss prev hand.
Ah, the persistence issue shows up with the AA hand I mentioned. Mark has AdAs here: https://youtu.be/PX5ccjVEapY?t=10989
But in the next hand he had Ts9s, but the screen said AsAd again: https://youtu.be/PX5ccjVEapY?t=11230

Has someone got a link to the full session, or know the date of, the infamous 86o (or 98ss) hand? I've only seen it as a twitch clip on Joey's twitter.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:33 PM   #3219
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who wants to listen to 2 hours of complete lies, blatant cheating, and total delusional nonsense?



and mike postle is there too
There is a good chance Postle will let his guard down somewhat if interviewed by a friend. I'd be almost surprised if he doesn't.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:36 PM   #3220
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CA Gaming laws (I posted this earlier but the thread is huge) say that cheating at gambling has the same penalty as larceny for the same amount of money, except that the fine is capped at $5k for the first offense, $10k for the 2nd. Jail time is uncapped though (thus, the same penalty as larceny)



So the law is in place to handle it. Whether the DA bothers to do their job is another story, but the media coverage around it should help.
I think the media buzz will generate a fair amount of L.E. interest.

Didnt see your prior post, thanks for the heads up.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:36 PM   #3221
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In the phone texts posted by Veronica aka angry_polak in #2725, not once does Postle DENY he was cheating. That is very telling.


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His response is a bunch of garbage. Not once does he address the things he's accused of but rather deflects on his past history as a player.

Address the accusations. Talk us through some specific hands and your thought process.

I can see why a player who's struggling to make a living because he's *now* a below-average poker player would take an edge like this at this game, especially knowing his cheating-inclined background as confessed by his brother.. Maybe hoped to have more big games in his future.
One thing my pops mentioned after I was reading him some of this thread (he's a senior law enforcement officer with 40+ years experience and has written manuals on interrogation/etc), is that in the txts that Veronica posted mentioned above, one of the first things Mike Pustule says is that he has no appetite and can't sleep. While this may seem minor, it's an important psychological angle here, as those who are innocent and accused rarely if EVER have this reaction, they come out angry and swinging. Those with extreme feelings of guilt and/or being cornered and trapped by their past actions, in the VAST majority of cases have a similar physiological response to what Mike Pustule is self describing here in his texts. It's so reliable that it's one of the first "tricks" investigators will use in order to get the weather gauge of a suspect, to see if there are first signs of possible guilt - test their appetite.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:37 PM   #3222
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I think its funny Mike of all people is going to be doing this interview. History, the present, and the story of Postle is so perfect right now. I can't believe this is all actually happening.

What a time to be alive.

A beginning of an era! lolz.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:38 PM   #3223
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It would be nice if Matusow prepared for this interview by actually going over footage beforehand, otherwise it might just be Mike Postle hitting grand slam home runs for 2 hours. It should be entertaining from a humor standpoint at least (don't think the victims will find much humor in Postle's side though).
It wouldn't surprise me if it ends up being 2hrs of both of them stroking each others egos. My guess is that Matusow secretly thinks Postle is guilty but he also does a lot of weird ****. Who knows though, he might ask some hard hitting questions.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:39 PM   #3224
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Hope Matusow asks him in detail about the allegations and not just let him give his version. Yeah, let the guy have his say but there are so many things for him to explain and not side step.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:41 PM   #3225
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who wants to listen to 2 hours of complete lies, blatant cheating, and total delusional nonsense?
Every poker player in the world
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