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Old 10-04-2019, 05:00 AM   #2851
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:00 AM   #2852
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supposedly they introduced new decks on 9/18 as well
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:02 AM   #2853
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It would be kind of ludicrous, for Justin, to bring your partner in crime on the live stream to grill him about some of the most blatant cheating hands he's played. Especially since Justin would have to be responsible for changing the hand to 8s9s to cover up obvious cheating... Now he's going to expose some other ridiculous hands? Doesn't make any sense. Plus the fact that Justin is putting up his good job, reputation, jail time ect. at risk.
it's also kinda ludicrous to superuse a game that is streaming on the internet and do so for hundreds of hours, but here we are.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:03 AM   #2854
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supposedly they introduced new decks on 9/18 as well
yeah, the faded spade decks seem to be important. this is when he stops being god.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:07 AM   #2855
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On Joey's stream tonight, he watched the 9/18/19 5-5 game, and noted that Postle didn't seem to be cheating. Postle also had completely different body language and demeanor during the stream. He was quiet and looked almost depressed.

This is similar to how he looked during those June streams when he also didn't seem to be cheating.

I decided to then watch the 9/21/19 stream on my own -- the 10-25-50 game, and the last one he played.

He won a lot there, but it doesn't seem to be from cheating. He just ran really well.

So it looks like he did NOT cheat on 9/18 or 9/21/19.

The 9/21 stream is especially curious, because it was the first time he played 10-25-50, and you'd think that would be the golden prize if he could cheat there and crush everyone at high stakes.

So what happened?

Someone has claimed that 9/18 was the first stream where phones were banned at the table, so that might explain it. But if that's the case, and if the lack of phone made him powerless, why did he play high stakes? Just to gamble? Just to throw in some "honest" sessions so he can refer to them later if caught?

Very strange. But worth looking into.
The 9-25 game is where he folds vs Marle at the 5:12 mark
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:09 AM   #2856
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People like you, who obviously havent read every post, especially of mine, are the reasons forums like this are ghost towns, and the reason that many people with insights to add dont post. And it is also the reason that once I log out I will never post again, because I created an email account at a site I will never use, and dont remember my password there...or here.

So enjoy it while you can. People who say Hi Justin, or any other Hi James in threads were there is a view they disagree with are the worst posters on the Internet and forums, and generally have nothing of value to add. You are the laziest, worst types of posters, and you ruin forums.
You'll be back to take a look and we know that.

If we really cared about you or your opinion we might actually waste our time coming up with something that would also make you post again.

But why bother?

Bye Justin and James.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:14 AM   #2857
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I think the 84hh vs. AcQd hand is particularly egregious. I'm wondering if there are many hands like this where he makes the call with a bad bluffcatcher with cards to come and the guy gets there and he folds. If not then I think this really suggests they were able to rabbit hunt rivers.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:14 AM   #2858
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The 9-25 game is where he folds vs Marle at the 5:12 mark
He didn't play on 9/25. Don't know what you're talking about. He last played on 9/21.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:15 AM   #2859
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yeah, the faded spade decks seem to be important. this is when he stops being god.
the stream Joey is watching now and they are using non faded spade cards

GOD MODE
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:15 AM   #2860
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So what happened?
My thinking is maybe the word was out and he wanted to throw up some smoke and mirrors and pay a straight up higher stake game. The card change is an interesting angle also.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:16 AM   #2861
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If he has multiple accomplices wanting their cut he pretty much has to win every hand just to make it worth everyone’s time and effort.
Assuming he's made around 250k USD over the past 18 months, splitting that 3 ways is still over 80k USD of tax free money (at least to his co-conspirators, I assume they are not declaring this income to the IRS).

Clearly the more people in on the scam, the greater the risk of getting caught. Three seems to be the perfect number: small enough to minimize risk, but large enough to pull this off.

I think you need someone who is technical and someone who has authority to approve changes with how they stream. So allowing, for example, remote access to a server, would require someone to approve, and someone to actually open the port on the server, and ensure the receiver can decrypt the stream.

A rogue technician could perhaps do this by himself, but he would need to be on-site more or less nonstop. Any other technical person who found out would immediately understand something is very wrong. Having someone in charge is the perfect cover, as any suspicion raised could be managed, e.g. "I approved opening that port, I wanted to test some functionality for a new stream, it's OK."

At the same time, an authority figure alone, with no technical support, would be stuck if there are issues during the stream. Even if you think Mike could be the technical guy, who sets things up before playing, there are still hundreds of things that could go wrong during the broadcast. You wouldn't want to risk that, you want a senior technical guy in on the plan, monitoring things in real time. And as I said, a technician not in on the scam would find a back door quickly, and start asking questions. That is just too risky.

Also, two people would make things much easier if info had to be pushed to Mike's phone in real time. One person can't just do this nonstop for 5 hours of play. Two people could work together to cover things, and also provide an alibi if needed. "I was in the booth commentating, how could I send anything to Mike?!?"

I think the key here is really the RFID mishaps. Understand who jumped up to quickly provide a justification for Mike's crazy play, who confirmed it definitely happened that way, who changed the graphics or ordered someone to change the graphics, and you have your co-conspirators.

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Old 10-04-2019, 05:16 AM   #2862
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I think the 84hh vs. AcQd hand is particularly egregious. I'm wondering if there are many hands like this where he makes the call with a bad bluffcatcher with cards to come and the guy gets there and he folds. If not then I think this really suggests they were able to rabbit hunt rivers.
There are. Ive watched all of joeys streams its insane. The most insane hand he calls 2 streets with gutter vs 2 flush draws. Flush draw bricks out noone pairs he donk jams river.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:22 AM   #2863
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There are. Ive watched all of joeys streams its insane. The most insane hand he calls 2 streets with gutter vs 2 flush draws. Flush draw bricks out noone pairs he donk jams river.
I'm talking more about hands where the guy rivers the nuts against him and he has to fold.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:26 AM   #2864
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I'm talking more about hands where the guy rivers the nuts against him and he has to fold.

There are some. He always knows what they have but i dont think he knows the runouts. Which is why he never inflates pots until the river. Theres one hand where he has aa and guy has kxdd he lets guy pick up diamond draw on the turn then he bets and he hits it on river and he folds
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:31 AM   #2865
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Just poker, unless I include scamming Gavin Smith in card pitching contests for $$$-

lol

edit - slow pony

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Old 10-04-2019, 05:31 AM   #2866
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apparently one of his victims was a well-known poker player suffering from terminal cancer and was there to play his last game of poker before receiving euthanasia.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:42 AM   #2867
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Do they ever put up the memes on the sessions that he is not cheating in?
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:59 AM   #2868
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I think the 84hh vs. AcQd hand is particularly egregious. I'm wondering if there are many hands like this where he makes the call with a bad bluffcatcher with cards to come and the guy gets there and he folds. If not then I think this really suggests they were able to rabbit hunt rivers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzL4...utu.be&t=20321

Here he folds the river after 4betting pre w/ AA when the other guy gets a flush by the river.
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:11 AM   #2869
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The 9/18 stream was very very different than the god mod streams. Someone in the game said that was the first night Justin ordered new decks.

The stream of 7/20 Mike was in GOD mode, that is believed to be the first day Justin returned I believe.

Mike mentioned he just found out a few days ago - I can see a scenario where he actually found out before that and decided to put in a few clean streams and then the cards were changed because the backlash built up. He is obviously not bad at the game so he can still win without using the super GOD mode but he doesn't play at all or act at all like the other times. It's a completely different player.

Not sure where I stand on Justin, clearly he is a deep thinker about things in general and clearly has a close relationship w/ Mike. If he is involved, it's been going on for 1.5 years and you have to be pretty damn smart about it somehow to do it for this long. The entire RFID error and Justin correcting the hand in the chat in the 88 vs TT is very strange. Also, the investigation process itself.

I think Stones is the only one who can figure out for sure who it is.
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:13 AM   #2870
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People asking how is it possible he won so many all-in hands if he didn't know what cards are coming. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but... Maybe he just runs good?
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:15 AM   #2871
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Why are people mentioning Tom Dwan now, what did I miss?
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:24 AM   #2872
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https://youtu.be/pH8Fjro2oJs

This is Veronicas latest youtube video. The audio isnt great but it shows mikes greatest hits. I want you guys to pay attention to Justin (the poker room manager in the blue suit) for the first hand. Do you guys see how he is texting real fast. I know the commentary is on a 30 minute delay but maybe that night it was live commentary with the poker room manager. It just seems like he is texting mike what to do. Anyone follow me here?
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:25 AM   #2873
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thanks for posting this! he did an amazing job summarizing the situation to the general public.
wow. That video is seriously well done. Fair play to that presenter
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:37 AM   #2874
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Why are people mentioning Tom Dwan now, what did I miss?
he said (on different accounts, now on his own twitter) like three times (to "prove" he's a good player for many years) he "beasted" durrrr on the internet in his prime and he was a feared online player. but he was not. dude is a sociopath and a moron, it's not even funny at this point.
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:38 AM   #2875
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Does anyone remember yngmanN4aquiki crushing online from 2003-2008?

Because I was playing online all the time in those days, and I don't remember him at all.
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