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Old 10-04-2019, 04:15 AM   #2826
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thanks for posting this! he did an amazing job summarizing the situation to the general public.
Yeah, was impressed how he summed the situation up in a few minutes. Very funny comment about CSI Stones.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:16 AM   #2827
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:18 AM   #2828
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the best way is to go LATB and play for a month.

put Gman, Andy, Nick, Art against him.

if he can win consecutively against them for many sessions, that will speak volumes of his godly skills he claims to have.
he explains his god like ability due to his live reads and knowing all the players so well from all the hands he has played with them.

need to get the same core line up of players and have them play LATB.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:19 AM   #2829
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It would be kind of ludicrous, for Justin, to bring your partner in crime on the live stream to grill him about some of the most blatant cheating hands he's played. Especially since Justin would have to be responsible for changing the hand to 8s9s to cover up obvious cheating... Now he's going to expose some other ridiculous hands? Doesn't make any sense. Plus the fact that Justin is putting up his good job, reputation, jail time ect. at risk.
Not really.

In fact, if he didn't interview Mike Postle, ''The Legend'', considering the whole context, it would be pretty weird.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:20 AM   #2830
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There's no way for him to prove he didn't cheat.

In a secure game he will never be able to reproduce the results he got in the stones show.

Same reason his history is irrelevant. He's probably won regularly in the past but he still cheated for a period of time on the show.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:20 AM   #2831
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Have any of the people who lost to him chimed itt? Wonder how tilting it is / has been if they watched the streams...
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:20 AM   #2832
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Underated post. Pretty much this.

Occam's razor.
You just need someone on the inside, not necessarily Justin. But Justin seems like the obvious co-conspirator. Still not proven, however.

My personal feeling is Mike had two co-conspirators: someone in charge (for the necessary approvals, e.g. allowing remote access to a server, etc.), and someone who was more technical, who could make this happen, trouble shoot issues in real time, and also take over at times when the other conspirator was busy when info had to be relayed verbally. After all, it's not easy to manage all of this nonstop for 5+ hours, especially if you are "working" at your regular job.

I think the key is the RFID malfunctioning issue, how it supposedly happened, and how that info was made public. Understanding that entire process will tell you who is involved in this conspiracy. Who did what, who said what and when, etc. I think they believed this was the perfect crime because they could always fall back on "RFID issues" if Mike got too crazy.

The other potential smoking gun is the first "thorough" investigation. Someone needs to leak the results. If there never was a first investigation, that is incredibly damning for Justin, obviously.

What I think is without a doubt is this is a conspiracy. And any attempt by Stones to whitewash that - to make Mike into a lone wolf hacker - will be a disgrace, and basically show they are not interested in full transparency. Just minimizing liability. We'll see...
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:23 AM   #2833
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Problem is by now, any physical evidence is gone. His hat. I suppose we can see if he purchased such a device from Amazon or something...
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:26 AM   #2834
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Why when they investigated him they didn't try to catch in him the act. The only explanation is that the person investigating him would have been found guilty if mike was.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:34 AM   #2835
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Considering the cheating is so obvious, Justin Kuraitis claiming an 'investigation' cleared him is basically proof he is part of the scam. And LOL to the idiots who played against him and didn't realize he was cheating and putting it down to just 'god mode'
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:35 AM   #2836
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till now, mike postle reaction and a good measure of silence on this matter is pretty damning to me, in my opinion.

if i were him and am truly innocent, i will sound trumpets, beat drums in my twitter account, inviting any relevant and competent authorities to investigate immediately.

what is there to fear if one is truly innocent?

this is a serious allegation towards his reputation after all.

yet, his twitter/FB profile is so silent and awkward that i can hear birds chirping.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:35 AM   #2837
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Not really.

In fact, if he didn't interview Mike Postle, ''The Legend'', considering the whole context, it would be pretty weird.
Exactly, and from personal experience, floormen are some of the most charismatic, personable degens youll ever meet. Justin could easily interview Mike bc of popular demand, avoiding suspicion, and arrogance/hyping the golden goose. It's unlikely, but he could be innocent, however, interviewing Mike would not factor into his innocence, anyone saying otherwise is either naive or Justin.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:37 AM   #2838
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhEfl56_xCY

55:15 in this video......

Flop is dealt, Graphics wrong, then graphics are 'corrected'

I guess I was led to believe this didn't happen.....can someone explain the difference to me? I don't get it...Maybe it has something to do with the dealer bringing the BB's dead cards across the RFID reader? Then re-reading the card?

At Stones, OBV.....
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:37 AM   #2839
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Considering the cheating is so obvious, Justin Kuraitis claiming an 'investigation' cleared him is basically proof he is part of the scam. And LOL to the idiots who played against him and didn't realize he was cheating and putting it down to just 'god mode'
It is possible that Justin just didn't bother investigating his friend and assumed his friend wasn't a cheater.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:38 AM   #2840
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Problem is by now, any physical evidence is gone. His hat. I suppose we can see if he purchased such a device from Amazon or something...
There is nothing left to discuss with Mike. You have all the evidence you need in the math, if you understand poker. The actual lines he takes in some hands are the icing on the cake, in addition to his bizarre table behavior. But I don't really see any point in spending more time on the question of whether Mike is guilty.

The more interesting question now is who are his co-conspirators.

We need to hear from people who work at Stones and who were involved in the production of this poker show. I'm sure they are under a gag order now, so they won't be talking openly. But perhaps someone who will talk off the record? Or even better, someone who left the show and knows something fishy that occurred and is willing to discuss?

My only fear now is that I think Stones would love to make this a "lone wolf" operation. So any info that contradicts that would pressure them to do a proper investigation.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:42 AM   #2841
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I think everyone is in agreement that mikes cheating. If you are this obvious to cheat in this style on stream never playing a hand wrong, wouldn't you get greedy and bring in a friend or 2? I really think theres a chance he brought a friend in on it and they are smart enough to make it look real and only superuse in a hand or 2. If someone who knew how to play poker decided to cheat like this they would play normal but just make a few correct hero calls/folds/bluffs. Mike on the other hands wants to play every hand and just win every hand.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:46 AM   #2842
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If he has multiple accomplices wanting their cut he pretty much has to win every hand just to make it worth everyone’s time and effort.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:47 AM   #2843
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There is nothing left to discuss with Mike. You have all the evidence you need in the math, if you understand poker. The actual lines he takes in some hands are the icing on the cake, in addition to his bizarre table behavior. But I don't really see any point in spending more time on the question of whether Mike is guilty.

The more interesting question now is who are his co-conspirators.

We need to hear from people who work at Stones and who were involved in the production of this poker show. I'm sure they are under a gag order now, so they won't be talking openly. But perhaps someone who will talk off the record? Or even better, someone who left the show and knows something fishy that occurred and is willing to discuss?

My only fear now is that I think Stones would love to make this a "lone wolf" operation. So any info that contradicts that would pressure them to do a proper investigation.
Theres only so much you can say about possible accomplices. theres almost no evidence to theorize off of. itd be beneficial to keep an eye out for Justin and Taylor Smith or any other co-conspirators but the focus should stay on Mike. If they find Mike guilty, then the rest will quickly fall with him.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:48 AM   #2844
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Considering the cheating is so obvious, Justin Kuraitis claiming an 'investigation' cleared him is basically proof he is part of the scam. And LOL to the idiots who played against him and didn't realize he was cheating and putting it down to just 'god mode'
People who played against him are not at fault. Only a handful of the hands he played are suspicious on their own. Most can be reasonably explained on their own. It's the fact that he took the perfect line, every single time, over hundreds of hours that made the cheating obvious.

Thousands of people watched the live streams, it took Veronica coming forward to blow this open. It's hard to notice cheating until you are looking for it. Then it's obvious.

Even the commentators were duped. I doubt the entire commentating crew were in on it. You wouldn't even consider that someone who plays every show is blatantly cheating.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:53 AM   #2845
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People who played against him are not at fault. Only a handful of the hands he played are suspicious on their own. Most can be reasonably explained on their own. It's the fact that he took the perfect line, every single time, over hundreds of hours that made the cheating obvious.

Thousands of people watched the live streams, it took Veronica coming forward to blow this open. It's hard to notice cheating until you are looking for it. Then it's obvious.

Even the commentators were duped. I doubt the entire commentating crew were in on it. You wouldn't even consider that someone who plays every show is blatantly cheating.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:53 AM   #2846
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THAT PLAYER???????? TOOOOMMMMM DWAN LOOOOOOOOOOL
I came as close as I ever have to a real life spit take at this part.
(Back to just lurking. Hats off to everyone doing the legwork.)
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:54 AM   #2847
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This thread Mike started made me lol.


https://www.pocketfives.com/forums/t...ud-can-happen/
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:55 AM   #2848
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THAT PLAYER???????? TOOOOMMMMM DWAN LOOOOOOOOOOL
No freakin way, don’t even, like kidding me, hh now, no way u took Dwan for 3 buy ins GTFO
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:56 AM   #2849
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Early on, the actions that Mike took changing his LinkedIn account, as well as mentioning that he was always on the phone with those in production, because he was an agent on a poker app,
I know Mike said he was on his phone because he was an agent, but I don't remember him mentioning anything about production staff in relation to that. Maybe I'm forgetting if someone can correct me on that.

Edit: Found the tweet

"On top of that, I’m an agent with multiple players on a poker app. Constantly loading/withdrawing/transferring and coaching a few players. Again, some players sitting next to me can confirm this before the cell phone use was banned."

In that, he never mentions anything about members of the production staff. Yessiree, why are you assuming he had regular contact with production staff through text messages while he was playing?
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:57 AM   #2850
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On Joey's stream tonight, he watched the 9/18/19 5-5 game, and noted that Postle didn't seem to be cheating. Postle also had completely different body language and demeanor during the stream. He was quiet and looked almost depressed.

This is similar to how he looked during those June streams when he also didn't seem to be cheating.

I decided to then watch the 9/21/19 stream on my own -- the 10-25-50 game, and the last one he played.

He won a lot there, but it doesn't seem to be from cheating. He just ran really well.

So it looks like he did NOT cheat on 9/18 or 9/21/19.

The 9/21 stream is especially curious, because it was the first time he played 10-25-50, and you'd think that would be the golden prize if he could cheat there and crush everyone at high stakes.

So what happened?

Someone has claimed that 9/18 was the first stream where phones were banned at the table, so that might explain it. But if that's the case, and if the lack of phone made him powerless, why did he play high stakes? Just to gamble? Just to throw in some "honest" sessions so he can refer to them later if caught?

Very strange. But worth looking into.
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