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Old 10-04-2019, 01:48 AM   #2676
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Sweet! In before Mike throws Justin and everyone else under the bus in an attempt to save himself! Whooo!
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:49 AM   #2677
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:50 AM   #2678
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Now MP is claiming Stones have exaggerated his winnings to build him up as the star.

He also claims he's getting pressure to delete Twitter content, presumably from Stones/JFK.

MP is going to turn on Justin soon.
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:52 AM   #2679
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All that is left is for Mike to wear a wire for an interview and end up in the bathroom talking to himself Robert Durst style. "They've got me now" "It was that stupid 54 hand idiot""Why'd I get so greedy".
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100% percent he regrets being so greedy now. im sure him and his accomplices are all just saying now, do not rat, we wont get caught. But one will rat if you give them immunity against the others. Have to play prisoners dilemma with these guys. First to rat out of justin and other guy will get minimum sentence, once guy rats other two will get maximum. The right authority will be able to squeeze
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:54 AM   #2680
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Now MP is claiming Stones have exaggerated his winnings to build him up as the star.

He also claims he's getting pressure to delete Twitter content, presumably from Stones/JFK.

MP is going to turn on Justin soon.
They were clearly making up or changing cards for whatever fun reason so why not change the $$$ too. The problem postle has with the claim is that even if true he's still clearly cheating. He makes a lot of **** up so why not when getting caught making **** up just make more **** up.

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Old 10-04-2019, 01:58 AM   #2681
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One of the best things about seeing his opponents hole cards is that he can gamble in spots like this. Gambling large amounts of money is fun! I'm not convinced this was just about money for Mike. I think the fun aspect could have played a role (he likes playing lots of hands and clearly likes to gamble) and the ego aspect is most certainly part of it. Wouldn't surprise me if feeding his ego was more important to him than the money.

Actually i think his reasoning to gamble with 54o was to convey a carefree gambler image so he wouldn't look like a cold superuser (like he was).
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:00 AM   #2682
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This type of cheating has occurred/is occuring at private home games.


Wiizwiig link explains it perfectly. It's incredibly easy to do
I'm skeptical of this theory for a lot of reasons.

The biggest is that as I understand it the camera is quite precise. When this device is used in a con, the camera must be pointed in a specific spot and the dealer must lay the deck flat on the table for a moment at the correct angle for the camera to read the markings. In other words, for this to be reliable, the dealer would have to be in on it. Given that dealers are rotated just as often as any other table, it doesn't make sense.

Also, his keys are on the rail, not the felt. It would be harder to get the correct angle from there.

It also wouldn't give much more of an advantage than knowing the hole cards.

I also haven't seen many hands that suggest he knows runouts. It seems that when one player in the hand has a big draw, he prefers to pot control and wait for turns and rivers. If he knew the runouts as well, it would make sense (and actually be less suspicious) to pile money in on the flop in made hand vs draw spots. But you've watched much more of his hands than me so please correct me if I'm wrong.

In summary it seems way too hard and way too much risk for such a little gain that he doesn't even seem to be taking advantage of anyway.

It's possible his key fob is doing *something* (maybe some kind of wireless receiver?) but I doubt very much that it's a camera.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:03 AM   #2683
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One of the best things about seeing his opponents hole cards is that he can gamble in spots like this. Gambling large amounts of money is fun! I'm not convinced this was just about money for Mike. I think the fun aspect could have played a role (he likes playing lots of hands and clearly likes to gamble) and the ego aspect is most certainly part of it. Wouldn't surprise me if feeding his ego was more important to him than the money.
no i think it was mostly the money. But the thing is, he knows even if he loses the hand, he has such a huge advantage to get it back before the end of the night
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:04 AM   #2684
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:04 AM   #2685
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My gut feeling is that Justin may be incompetent when it comes to game security, or investigation, but he's not guilty of directly cheating. His personality from the video where he interviews Mike, and the way he's conducting the interview/ questions he asks leads me to this conclusion.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:05 AM   #2686
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I've read every single post in this thread, and have been shocked that nobody brought this up until now. It is an important point, and would fit the facts currently known better than any other theory that would exculpate Justin, the guy in charge at Stones.

This was floating around in my mind for a day, and I wondered why nobody was bringing up this obvious potential reality. Later, when I watched a video of Justin bringing up hands for Mike to discuss, I asked myself if Justin would really be so bold and stupid to bring up these outrageous hands if he was, in fact, in on it. If you watch Justin's reactions as he asks Mike about these hands, he is the greatest actor in the world if he can show those natural emotions, while knowing full well that the scam is in play.

If there is a shocking surprise here, it will be something obvious like this....that Mike simply had access to Justin's laptop and Justin had no clue, and therefore drank the Kool Aid because he knew nobody could scam the game. It is a possibility here that has gone unmentioned until your insightful post. I sure hope that there are more people like us who were thinking about this angle. If not, it is an embarrassing oversight by many, who otherwise have done an outstanding job sleuthing.
this would be possible if Justin Kuraitis hadn't also been the one that covered up the initial investigation and sent out a bunch of angry tweets saying there was no evidence and directly helped the cheating go for way longer than it should have.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:05 AM   #2687
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I've read every single post in this thread, and have been shocked that nobody brought this up until now. It is an important point, and would fit the facts currently known better than any other theory that would exculpate Justin, the guy in charge at Stones.

This was floating around in my mind for a day, and I wondered why nobody was bringing up this obvious potential reality. Later, when I watched a video of Justin bringing up hands for Mike to discuss, I asked myself if Justin would really be so bold and stupid to bring up these outrageous hands if he was, in fact, in on it. If you watch Justin's reactions as he asks Mike about these hands, he is the greatest actor in the world if he can show those natural emotions, while knowing full well that the scam is in play.

If there is a shocking surprise here, it will be something obvious like this....that Mike simply had access to Justin's laptop and Justin had no clue, and therefore drank the Kool Aid because he knew nobody could scam the game. It is a possibility here that has gone unmentioned until your insightful post. I sure hope that there are more people like us who were thinking about this angle. If not, it is an embarrassing oversight by many, who otherwise have done an outstanding job sleuthing.
Plausible, but this doesn't explain the "OH THE GRAPHICS WERE WRONG" stuff.

Seems far more likely there were others involved, because they are explaining away his actions/pretending the graphics were wrong to cover.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:05 AM   #2688
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Mike would have to find someone equally scummy/dumb in order to confide that he wants to pull this off and to find a partner in crime. Justin doesn't strike me as fitting this description, he seems like a good person. I'll eat my words if this is proven wrong.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:06 AM   #2689
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Actually i think his reasoning to gamble with 54o was to convey a carefree gambler image so he wouldn't look like a cold superuser (like he was).
He folded kk to aa folded jj pre correct and and ak vs 88 on ak4 flop for 600 with 4.3k behind , be didn’t give a f about ppl think he’s super using , so so blatant
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:07 AM   #2690
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/420559949?t=1h43m32s


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Old 10-04-2019, 02:07 AM   #2691
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My question is how well do the bone conducting headphones work. By that I mean do they have to be in the perfect position to get coherent sound out of them? Does the thickness of the hat/person's hair affect sound quality? Is he simply adjusting his hat/pushing the headphones down to get better sound?
They work pretty well. They have to be pressing against your skull (better contact = louder/clearer) but by no means perfect. I do think he is pressing them down to get better sound in clips where he is holding his hat.

You can probably try a pair yourself at a local electronics store, they're not that rare or expensive.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:08 AM   #2692
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My gut feeling is that Justin may be incompetent when it comes to game security, or investigation, but he's not guilty of directly cheating. His personality from the video where he interviews Mike, and the way he's conducting the interview/ questions he asks leads me to this conclusion.
I got the exact opposite feeling from watching him interview Mike, in addition to the other circumstantial evidence and everything else that’s been presented. I would be equally shocked if Justin was innocent as if Mike was found innocent.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:10 AM   #2693
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It would be kind of ludicrous, for Justin, to bring your partner in crime on the live stream to grill him about some of the most blatant cheating hands he's played. Especially since Justin would have to be responsible for changing the hand to 8s9s to cover up obvious cheating... Now he's going to expose some other ridiculous hands? Doesn't make any sense. Plus the fact that Justin is putting up his good job, reputation, jail time ect. at risk.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:11 AM   #2694
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I got the exact opposite feeling from watching him interview Mike, in addition to the other circumstantial evidence and everything else that’s been presented. I would be equally shocked if Justin was innocent as if Mike was found innocent.
I thought some cheating hands were found to be played while Justin was away at WSOP or somewhere else?
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:12 AM   #2695
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Theres a bit of discussion that justin may be innocent. Watching joeys stream now i still think its a long shot, but him interviewing him and praising him this hard knowing his cheating just seems brain dead. Also would assume his partner would tell him to tone it down a bit and play more normal and just hero/bluff a few big pots and not cheat every hand. It blows my mind how long this went on for. If people actually watched this live stream theyd question it so fast.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:12 AM   #2696
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Remember Stones was copyrighted on youtube many months back so many of there streams may be missing from youtube. Check Twitch for archived videos as well.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:13 AM   #2697
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It would be kind of ludicrous, for Justin, to bring your partner in crime on the live stream to grill him about some of the most blatant cheating hands he's played. Especially since Justin would have to be responsible for changing the hand to 8s9s to cover up obvious cheating... Now he's going to expose some other ridiculous hands? Doesn't make any sense. Plus the fact that Justin is putting up his good job, reputation, jail time ect. at risk.
people risk their job/reputation/jail time for way less than this on a daily basis
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:14 AM   #2698
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It would be kind of ludicrous, for Justin, to bring your partner in crime on the live stream to grill him about some of the most blatant cheating hands he's played. Especially since Justin would have to be responsible for changing the hand to 8s9s to cover up obvious cheating... Now he's going to expose some other ridiculous hands? Doesn't make any sense. Plus the fact that Justin is putting up his good job, reputation, jail time ect. at risk.
Not if you think you're never getting caught. It's real low level middle school styled pretending to be honest because we're honest trickery.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:14 AM   #2699
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Taylor Smith is commenting in this video, and in the commentary 29.35 says he has done digital graphics all his life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lwIMGA1q64
wow whats even sicker is the episode is called postle and friends. Mike invites the guys to the table who he is going to steal from. Just another **** you to these so called friends of his
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:15 AM   #2700
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Joey Ingraham is also live right now showing Justin interviewing Mike about hands. If Justin is also involved in this scam, he is a psychopath, as well as an Academy Award worthy actor. And bringing up these hands is beyond reckless, if Justin is in on it.

One Hundred percent Mike is cheating, and might set a new precedent in poker by going to prison for real theft. But I am leaning toward Justin being innocent, though I recognize that a reasonable case can be made against Justin. Scott Van Pelt on Espn may have been quite savvy and wise not to drop Justin's name like he did Mike's. He made a general reference.

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