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10-22-2021 , 01:50 PM
Could he write a "tell all" book? Would that, at least, get him out of his financial predicament?
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10-22-2021 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Could he write a "tell all" book? Would that, at least, get him out of his financial predicament?
I don't think it would sell. He's pretty ****ed financially I think. Rightfully so. Glad to see some karma come out ahead in this industry for once
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10-22-2021 , 04:19 PM
Semi-justice yeah. It just really sucks for everybody who was affected to the tune of four and sometimes five figure sums from Postle who won't get any restitution.
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10-25-2021 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Could he write a "tell all" book? Would that, at least, get him out of his financial predicament?
If he did this or at any point publicly admitted it surely he could get into legal trouble?


Although he probably won't as it happened in California and they don't care about gaming debts or whatever the reason is that cheating people out of money isn't taken seriously! US legal system is quite unique. I'm pretty sure in most countries the case would at least be heard
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10-25-2021 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Same_again
If he did this or at any point publicly admitted it surely he could get into legal trouble?


Although he probably won't as it happened in California and they don't care about gaming debts or whatever the reason is that cheating people out of money isn't taken seriously! US legal system is quite unique. I'm pretty sure in most countries the case would at least be heard
If he admitted to it, probably can open it up to other causes of action. Now its just a gambling dispute. If he admitted to rigging or cheating a casino's security or IT system, for example, that could be actionable.
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10-25-2021 , 10:56 PM
Just write it as a wink wink fiction novel.
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10-26-2021 , 12:15 AM
Statute of limitations
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10-26-2021 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Statute of limitations
I'm guessing that could be a long wait.
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10-26-2021 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
I'm guessing that could be a long wait.
Nope

The statute of limitations (“SOL”) for most California theft charges is one year if the charge is filed as a misdemeanor or three years if the charge is filed as a felony. Under California criminal law, the SOL refers to the maximum time period in which a prosecutor can file criminal charges.
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10-26-2021 , 09:04 PM
BUT, you can file a civil fraud / theft action, and claim statute of limitations not triggered until you discovered the facts. The fact discovery arguably would be whatever Postle wrote in his hypothetical book as to how he stole money.

Statute of Limitations: A fraud (deceit, intentional misrepresentation) lawsuit is required to be filed within three years before plaintiff either discovered facts constituting the fraud or with reasonable diligence could have (should have) discovered those facts, whichever comes first. Sun'n Sand, Inc. v. United California Bank (1978) 21 Cal.3d 671, 701; Fox v. Ethicon Endo-Surgery, Inc. (2005) 35 Cal.4th 797, 808; Kline v. Turner (2001) 87 Cal.App.4th 1369, 1374.
The delayed-discovery rule in fraud cases applies and is codified in California Code of Civil Procedure § 338(d):

“Within three years: (d) An action for relief on the ground of fraud or mistake…[is] not deemed to have accrued until the discovery, by the aggrieved party, of the facts constituting the fraud or mistake.”

“This discovery element [triggering the 3-year statute of limitations time clock] has been interpreted to mean ‘the discovery by the aggrieved party of the fraud or facts that would lead a reasonably prudent person to suspect fraud.’ ” Doe v. Roman Catholic Bishop of Sacramento (2010) 189 Cal.App.4th 1423, 1430.
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10-26-2021 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Outoftime44444
BUT, you can file a civil fraud / theft action, and claim statute of limitations not triggered until you discovered the facts. The fact discovery arguably would be whatever Postle wrote in his hypothetical book as to how he stole money.

Again.
California courts will not consider civil cases that involve gambling.
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10-26-2021 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Again.
California courts will not consider civil cases that involve gambling.
We are talking about a hypothetical book.

Hypothetically if Mike Postle writes a book about how he committed fraud, or theft, or hacked into a video/IT system of some kind, that won't be a gambling dispute. Would be whatever tort he admitted to committing.
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10-27-2021 , 04:24 PM
Has anyone spotted Mike in any card rooms lately?
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10-27-2021 , 05:11 PM
Once it’s been 3 years he will be fine

Six-year limitation

California Penal Code 800 PC states that if a crime is punishable with eight years or more of imprisonment in the state prison, the statute of limitations is six years. For example:

Penal Code 211 PC – first-degree robbery,
Penal Code 451 PC – arson.
Three-year limitation

California Penal Code 801 PC states that apart from those crimes that fall into the two prior statutes, the statute of limitations for offenses punishable by imprisonment is three years. For example:
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10-31-2021 , 09:45 AM

Mike Postle Tried to Enlist Two Other People to Help Him Cheat Claims Veronica Brill
https://www.pokertube.com/article/mi...veronica-brill

In other news:
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10-31-2021 , 09:55 PM
He could write a fiction book like OJ did, "if I did it..."
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11-01-2021 , 11:42 AM
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11-01-2021 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
He could write a fiction book like OJ did, "if I did it..."
I heard Postle refuses to play at Stones Gambling Hall anymore because he could be sitting next to the player who cheated
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11-01-2021 , 04:04 PM
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I heard Postle refuses to play at Stones Gambling Hall anymore because he could be sitting next to the player who cheated
Just to play along: Has Mike found the real cheaters yet?
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11-02-2021 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron


Mike Postle Tried to Enlist Two Other People to Help Him Cheat Claims Veronica Brill

https://www.pokertube.com/article/mi...veronica-brill



In other news:

I'm here for the brill thirst traps
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11-02-2021 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Just to play along: Has Mike found the real cheaters yet?
Maybe he's following OJ's lead and searching for the real cheaters on Florida golf courses.
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11-06-2021 , 06:52 AM
Holy ****, just been down a 3 day rabbit hole on the Mike Postle affair. Missed it at the time as I was away from poker. What a ****ing roller coaster of emotions.

Watched way too many 2 year old Joey streams (I lived every moment of astonishment with you bud), and live stream sessions from a casino I'd never heard of. So many ridiculous hands but my personal favourite was MP throwing his hands up in disgust at hitting top 2 on the turn in a 3bet pot giving his opponent the straight, and knowing he's gonna have no choice but to call down 2 more bets. Absolute comedy gold.

Veronica, you are an absolute hero and I'd want you in my corner in a battle <3

Ultimately disappointing outcome considering the weight of evidence on MP's win rate alone is probably statistically more reliable than DNA evidence from a crime scene, let alone the absurdity of Mike's play in pot after pot that always seemed to work out for him. Just about sums up the difficulty in explaining poker to the wider world.

ps - just one observation that I didn't see anyone make at the time of the Matusow podcast. MP bangs on about the fact the initial chip stacks were wrong on the streams, therefore making his winrate less than claimed. Surely if this was the case for the whole table, he'd be likely to have won much more than claimed, as subsequent all ins would be for bigger effective stacks and he was invariably the one dragging in the chips. Hope someone at least brought this up at some point to counter his argument that he won less than claimed.
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11-06-2021 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OffTh3Radar
Holy ****, just been down a 3 day rabbit hole on the Mike Postle affair. Missed it at the time as I was away from poker. What a ****ing roller coaster of emotions.

Watched way too many 2 year old Joey streams (I lived every moment of astonishment with you bud), and live stream sessions from a casino I'd never heard of. So many ridiculous hands but my personal favourite was MP throwing his hands up in disgust at hitting top 2 on the turn in a 3bet pot giving his opponent the straight, and knowing he's gonna have no choice but to call down 2 more bets. Absolute comedy gold.

Veronica, you are an absolute hero and I'd want you in my corner in a battle <3

Ultimately disappointing outcome considering the weight of evidence on MP's win rate alone is probably statistically more reliable than DNA evidence from a crime scene, let alone the absurdity of Mike's play in pot after pot that always seemed to work out for him. Just about sums up the difficulty in explaining poker to the wider world.

ps - just one observation that I didn't see anyone make at the time of the Matusow podcast. MP bangs on about the fact the initial chip stacks were wrong on the streams, therefore making his winrate less than claimed. Surely if this was the case for the whole table, he'd be likely to have won much more than claimed, as subsequent all ins would be for bigger effective stacks and he was invariably the one dragging in the chips. Hope someone at least brought this up at some point to counter his argument that he won less than claimed.
.... And where would this hypothetical exchange of salient points about stacks/damages,etc. take place ?

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11-15-2021 , 03:34 PM
Where are they now?

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11-15-2021 , 03:34 PM
Where are they now:

The Angry Polak
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