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Originally Posted by xjx388
What I really don't understand is why people continue to patronize Stones. It seems to me that most people who understand poker also understand that Postle cheated and that someone who works for Stones or an affiliated company had to 1) be in on it or 2) run such a shoddy operation that they are liable based on gross negligence. How is that place not shut down from lack of business?
First of all, great post. Welcome to the thread.
To this quoted portion, I'll speak only for myself on this one. In fairness, I haven't been to
any card room in a while, plus it's hard to answer the question right now in the current situation with COVID, etc. That does affect things. For example, Stones has reopened with outdoor seating, but it could mean they do not have their full bar/food facilities in gear, which lessens the draw for me.
In a non-COVID world, Stones is by far my No. 1 choice for this area: friendly staff, friendlier clientele, plus kick-ass food and drink. So from a purely practical standpoint, I wouldn't/don't have any reservations about playing at Stones.
In terms of game integrity, I also wouldn't be worried because all of the cheating happened on the video stream; in fact, it happened
because of the video stream. Oddly, part of the reason I started visiting Stones is that the play of one of its area competitors (Capitol Casino) seemed shady during the few times I went.
However...
In terms of principles, yes, I can 100 percent get behind people wanting to boycott the room just to make a statement. It's not usually my kind of thing to do, but if I was a more frequent visitor to live poker overall, even I would consider taking my business to Thunder Valley for a while. It would be a nominal little F-you, vote-with-your-wallet move, since my minuscule contribution to the rake and my $50 bar tab would not be missed on Stones' bottom line.
Keep in mind, this is
my take, and even I have given two reasons why I would still play there, and only one reason why I might not. Now imagine all of the players who simply don't know or don't care about this controversy. Then think how many people (like Lon McEachern) are on the side that there was no wrongdoing at all. After that, think how many people acknowledge there were likely shenanigans at one point, but that Stones and/or its staff did zero wrong. After all, this was the official statement given by the opposing attorney. (Plus, this was announced in the newspaper... it must be right!)
Add that up, and ta da... there's your steady stream of business.
For what it's worth, if I
did play there, and if I
did ship a tournament, you better believe my tip is going directly into the dealers' hands and won't be handed to the TD.