I am not relying on the stats. The guys that don't know who invented the Martingale betting strategy but employed it somewhere between 10-21 times (my estimation of his counting ability based on digits) for bankroll ruin relies on the stats as proof of his cheating.

I agree with you that the behavior is convincing to me- he is playing with perfect information (although I admittedly have watched more of the summary compilations of the questionable hands and not the entire streams...perhaps he played some hands wrong or lost some pots).

Yes typically around 3-4hrs or so.

If you know the backstory. First he is a whining (depressed looking) losing player who cant seem to hit a hand.
And boom he turns into this cruching crotchlooking cto bot with memes who crushes every hand.

he applied the martingale must be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, not even trump worthy.

I was bored so watched quite a bit logging every hand into a spreadsheet pre cheating and some post cheating. I kind of lost interest in the project as after just watching about 10hrs pre and post it was evident beyond a doubt that I didn't complete it 100%.

It's not even close. Not even a little bit.

Infinite.

But yea, it's a theoretical strategy that actually only works if you have positive expectation on the bet in the first place. Otherwise you trend to zero anyway. It's terrible BR management.

But like I said, that never stopped us from encouraging a whale to try it.

Roughly yes. I don't think they varied much and I don't think Mike left early. Clearly one of two things must be happening:

1) Mike is a poker GOD.

2) Mike's penis is magical and can read RFID tags if he stares at it.

I watched the session that he won 20k and a few of the different compilations and lost interest too because it was pretty obvious. There may be some confirmation bias in my judgment but I don't see any other explanation other than he was getting information from his phone in his lap.

What is going on with this case? I hate to say this but I feel this is all being swept under the rug. Its pretty sad you hear nothing else about the mike postle situation.

Hes clearly guilty but feel the players are going to be F'ed over that lost to him.

Christians have been saying for almost 2000 years, Christ will come back. Well he did, his name is Mike Postle and he plays $1-$3 NL on Stones Casino. He IS God and you should all respect him, stop being so jealous. He won $250k for our sins, and you are all going to hell for this

What evidence do you have?

You do know that people who aren't crooked also buy cars, right?

Or 3)

Or Justin set the whole thing up. Sort of how the narcissist villain in the movies who thinks he is smarter than everybody else, when in fact he's an idiot.

He used the Martingale, come on!

Can u imagine Phil Nagy, or Bill Saxton, Helmuth or anyone saying about their staked players he used the Martingale?
It just doesn't make sense. (It doesn't give you an edge not does it apply to the context)
There is something odd with this.

If you ask me Justin has a few loose skrews in his head.
And Mike Postle was just the marionette that we see, the tip of the iceberg.

I agree Justin is really behind this not Postle. However, he is a card room manager, not a poker player. That is why he would say something ridiculous about Martingales. I also agree that this scheme was not practical, and not likely to work for long.

Could have worked for years if they hadn't been greedy ****s that ran max exploit plays on every damn hand. Play a few hands straight up and give a little back here and there and no-one would have questioned an occasional super sick play.

Deuce, you never responded to this prior post. Can I take you ignoring it as an admission you have no proof JFK was clearly involved?

Mike matusow is back on the case!!

And this is Marie! I've been spending 10 minutes watching this video
And thinking never seen those chicks.. lol

And then she says she is Marie and then notice she has the voice of Marie and she is marle. WTF

It's a court case now. Get used to hearing nothing for months at a time.

Spent a good 5 days in a row in this thread almost day and night when this story first broke. Then left it after stones clearly just stonewalled their bs "investigation" since the wheels of law churn slowly now when that's where it's at

Popped back in now to see if anything is going on

And what do I see? Martingale discussions

Don't you find it funny that Justin said he used the Martingale system?

I think its not ot ok that Doug said he wouldn't play him hu.
Mike said he play anyone hu. Someone should challenge him. Or i will.

I challenge Mike Postle hu.

If he was winning maybe $10 a session then it would be possible. Winning the amount he did is absurd. Not even playing that high and he won a lot of money.

jmur, if you quote the correct post or respond to the content of the post you quote it will make more sense.

also known as smoke and mirrors.

And for any poler player that spent any time in this thread Postle is either a cheater or a Poker God. The rest of it is just smoke and mirrors.

But a few people are doing a reasonable, yet unconvincing, job of slinging the bullshit.

It's been mentioned that the stream software used by Stones Live actually does save HHs like this right out of the box. So it's possible the plaintiffs will be able to get that data without hundreds of hours of manual work.

endless hours of people speculating

anyone else miss the old days when a couple of street toughs would find out what happened in ten minutes


instead of years of bs

At risk of sounding nitpicky, the bolded is incorrect: there are plenty of facts. The question is whether or not these facts mean what the accusers say they mean.

For example, Gumpnstein's observation of Postle putting his phone into his crotch during the July 1, 2018 stream: that action is a fact. Whether or not Postle used that phone to gain information – that's what is left to be determined.

Postle going all-in in a three-way pot with 54 offsuit? Fact. A noticeable bulge in that white baseball cap? Fact.

Postle going all-in in a three-way pot with 54 offsuit because he knew it would be an equity favorite? The noticeable bulge in that white baseball cap must be a bone conduction hearing aid used to gain hole card information? Agreed, now we're speculating, and doing so twice in the second example (one guess as to what caused the bulge, the second guess as to what such a device is used for).

How damning vs. meaningless are these facts? Well, that's the nature of circumstantial evidence*. You've said many times that you want proof. Ultimately, that's what proof is: the combination of evidence and the conclusions that can be made from that evidence. The larger the body of facts, the more mere speculation becomes conclusion.

Now, with that all said...

Out of curiosity, is this bolded statement a fact or speculation? And if it's a fact, how do you know that? And if it's true, how was Discord used in the alleged cheating and/or how does it exonerate Postle?

(By the way, please don't merely guess when answering my questions. I also prefer proof.)





*Don't get me started on the number of people saying some version of "you only have circumstantial evidence." But that's a rant for another time.

this is their attempt at driving the weight off of Justin and onto another potential method of cheating.
Also in previous posts, discussing ACR is an attempt at making people start pointing figures at other things as if stones cheating and ACR bots are mutually exclusive.
The Propaganda campaign has begun and no ridiculous attempt will go untried