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Originally Posted by nickjehz
just to play devils advocate.. you are arguing the statistics defense.
No, statistics is just the win rate argument. Always making the right play only when the phone is in his crotch is not statistics.
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Originally Posted by Koko the munkey
To keep this on topic, to say that there is evidence of it beyond Postle making correct plays of the time isn't truthful. Heck, we can't even point to the fact that he won consistently. There are sessions on the spreadsheet right up until the end where he wasn't in "god mode". Without access to his phone and texting records we can only speculate that he was receiving information about other players holdings with it. Looking at his crotch isn't an indication of cheating. Without physical evidence of a bone conducting headset we can only speculate on that too. A "bump in the hat" is just that. Who happened to be in town when he was winning is highly circumstantial at best. Having his keys on the table is proof of nothing...
Do I think he cheated? Almost certainly. But there really isn't any proof of it.
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Originally Posted by lovedaphils
We all know he cheated but it's tough to prove without being a player and understanding what running like that requires. (cheating)
But unless he forgot his phone one time and we were able to get the program running on it etc. I don't see a solid criminal case and the civil case is shaky.
You guys are looking at each piece of evidence as if they individually have to be proof of him cheating. It's when you link the evidence and show that when the phone was in his crotch and he is clearly looking at it during hands where he makes bets, calls, and folds that he doesn't make when the phone is not there (in fact, his whole style of play changes) that it is the smoking gun.
Yes, alone, a phone in his crotch doesn't mean he's cheating. That he makes plays that seem impossible could just be flukes. But when you combine the two and show that he NEVER makes those incredible plays when his phone is not in his crotch, and when it is there he always makes plays that even those commenting on the stream are in amazement how he could know -- that's where it become undeniable unless you are just refusing to see it. And you don't need to know anything about poker to have that explained such that it becomes clear.