Veronica is worth jack **** so her 10/hr announcing while getting drunk is not really that important. So what she was promoting the cheating game. She knew what she was doing but for her to say Mike owes her anything is absurd.

I personally think ANY gambler who is asking for their money back is absurd too. If the casino wasnt "in" on it then he should have been asked to not play anymore and also "kill" the stream because of its security vulnerability

Are there any new developments over the past few days or are we all still awaiting the findings from the investigation(s)?

Noone deserves anything back and nobody deserves to catch him in the act. I would have gotten a bad vibe from the table and would have cursed mike out. I'm surprised everything was so under control. most likely because there were plenty of other ppl at the table(s) who knew what he was doing and was avoiding him like the plague

Moneymaker is a co-consirator for promoting this cheat by being a "featured" guest and making it seem like everything is on the up & up but he knew damn well that the casino was ripping everyone else off.

Nothing to see here! and this type of "advantage gaming" is seen throughout casinos. and its lame the way it looks playing poker. the other table games look more like a boss cheat!

The lawyer defense is the biggest LUL I've had in a while, to be honest: "When I play poker I lose almost every hand, so I know such streaks are possible."

Fortunately, in the document provided for the court there's a lot of details included on how professional poker works and how Mike Postle could have cheated.

Completely agreeing with you. When people that are cheating like Postle or others witch are harming people with intention, their reasoning is that since they tell you straight to the face, you are the sucker if you fall for it.

def a narc. and def. trying to manipulate reality. Only thing is he is not good at it.

When I heard that I just presumed the target audience was prospective jurors who were bad at gambling.

Who’s this Mac guy that’s representing the players in the Postle case. Offering a 2nd free dinner on Twitter... seems like some sleazy time share tactic. Is he friends with nick vertucci?(sp?)

What’s wrong with Nick?

1. Nelson v. Reisner says that when the defendant's conduct makes it difficult to set damages, any reasonable estimate is fine.

So if it's impossible to calculate what these players really would have lost, the amount Postle took away from the game is probably viable as a damages number.

2. I don't see any basis for any sort of liability, even if she brought people to the game. She didn't KNOW of the cheating, she only suspected it, and she had received assurances from management that she was entitled to rely on. Plus, she played in the games herself, which indicates she did rely on those assurances.

But, again, I do hope that everyone who joined in that lawsuit was encouraged to obtain independent legal advice. I know there's several things that I would inform any client or prospective client about before advising him or her to join that suit. It's an ethical minefield if the plaintiffs' lawyers just signed people up without advising them to seek independent advice.

Stone’s said in the Sac Bee that preliminary results of their investigation were going to available early last week & haven’t seen anything yet. Any locals have any updates? Has Justin been back yet?

He runs a predatory real estate program. Take 5 minutes to research his academy.

A delay in announcing results indicates to me a greater chance that they found something incriminating in the system. Stones would be incentivized to announce a clean audit quickly if they had one.

Could also mean that principals are lawyered up and not cooperating. With at least the possibility of criminal charges hovering out there, people may not want to talk to Stones investigators.

Don’t disagree, little more complicated tho. Obviously, if nothing wrong was going on, it would be in their interest to get that out there as soon as possible. However, to make a statement like that takes a lot of work. Need to go through everything. If they say everything looks OK & then later something incriminating pops, they look like real jerks.

If I’m guessing, suspect they expected to be able to point the finger at certain people last week. Numerous reasons why they haven’t done that yet tho. Including but not limited to the gaming board asking them to hold off until they are ready to move.

They made a mistake giving a timeline.

Not sure which investigation you are referring too.

If you are referring to the Stones Investigation of itself - which they said they would update the public if needed... This investing is being conducted through the Stones Attorney. This investigation is a privileged investigation that is a work product of the Attorney and its client, so no information will ever be released or made public or can be subpoenaed, because it is Client Attorney privilege information. Probably Never Known

I saw some comments from people waiting for info on this, but it may never come out unless the Client (Stones) wants to release it. this is the reason corporations have Attorneys perform or hire out investiongation, because , what ever is found or discovered is kept secret under attorney client privilege.

If you are referring to the California Bureau of Gambling Control investigation - well that could be a while - a long while. I researched state statues and could not find any mention of when investigations needed to be completed and reported, so the timeline for this is Unknown.

I would like to hear about some info about what the Plaintiffs Attorney is investigating and what info they have received, if any, from Stones and other defendants through their discovery requests. Unknown.

If you are referring to Joe Ingram investigations, well time will tell. He seems pretty burnt out at the moment. But that does not stop Big Papi, he can drop a vid or start a stream at any time.

This ongoing investigation info is what we all want to know - but it looks like it will be along time before we get anything, especially, now that this is public and lawsuits have been filed, we will get the standard "we don't comment while an investigation or lawsuit is pending"

Don't think I am all doom and gloom - I would love to hear another interview of Mike P. with some new stories about how he is a crusher ( I have not seen receipts ),

how he plays other games al the time ( I have never heard of him playing other games recently off stream, and I hear when the stream is finished, he insta racks his chips )

and I would love to hear him talk about not winning as much money as reported ( but never denying cheating, or explain crotch theory, or how it is he can read souls )

and how he doesn't need the money so he does not play higher stakes (especially when he played online at the highest stakes and was the biggest winner on UB )

such a crusher that only dreams are made of - and in this case - it was not a dream - it was an illusion.

we (as in me ) need some kind of cliffs.. Whats the latest? is he in jail jet?

This is a good piece on potential defenses to the civil suit.

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2019/...seem-35686.htm

Now I will say that even though it is a good piece, several of the defenses he mentions are basically 0 percent to succeed. This guy is a lawyer (and apparently an excellent poker player), but he has the disease that a lot of non-lawyers have of assuming that if the defense has any answer at all, it will be magically believed by the jury. (So, for instance, no, it's not possible to explain all of Postle's hands in terms of things that good players might do occasionally-- 54 off all-in pre-flop and the JTo hand that folds when he makes top pair are 2 examples. And a lot of the evidence about crotches and hats is powerful not only by itself, but because it coincides with the time that Postle is in God mode.)

But several of the things he mentions really are likely defenses if a case ever reaches a jury.

Found a hand Postle folds to a 3bet during the session I am going over this week lol

Ooops prob should've balanced in that hand MP

I'm sorry but anyone who thinks Mike's name being SMFC has anything or could potentially have something to do with him cheating is just out of touch with reality at this point. The thought process needed to come to that conclusion is so illogical I can't take anything else seriously.

If only they were so careful. This was posted on Twitter by Stones back in Sept.:

Only Dan Harrington would fold in that spot.

I don't understand what point you are trying to make regarding this fold. You don't have to look at your pecker-cam to fold AJ to a three-bet in this spot.

What am I missing?