Had to come in here because Reddit is a bit of a **** show and my legit post was removed or never approved for whatever reason while **** posts go up every 10 minutes...
I had posted a theory which I consider to be the exact method of how he is getting the card information in real time. I am sorry if this has been posted already, but I wasn't going to read the 236 pages before this to find out. I have only seen it mentioned once before on Twitter by @vdthemyk and casually retweeted by Joe Ingram but I haven't seen it talked about since then.

Here is my take on exactly how this is being carried out:

I just read the manual for PokerGFX, which is the software that is used at Stones as well as LATB and other various poker streams, and came across this gem about MultiGFX:

Basically what this means is that ANYONE with a laptop and wifi password is able to run their own copy of PokerGFX, click MultiGFX option which then uses all the data from the other running copy of the software in the back as the data source. It basically duplicates the entire system onto a different computer... This means anyone in wifi range could access the cards in real-time and message Mike on WhatsApp or the messaging app of their choosing.

The pages of the manual relevant to this are in PDF here https://www.docdroid.net/VLB2oft/multigfxinfo.pdf

I am convinced now that this is the method of attack. It only requires a separate copy of the software on a laptop that is connected to the same network.

I asked /u/PokerJunkieKK on Reddit who claims to have worked in the tech room during 2017 and early 2018 before this started happening. I asked about the casino wifi that the software could possibly have been operating on. His/Her reply was:

"It was password protected, though not too difficult to guess. And it didn't change the whole time I was there."


Once the PW is cracked/guessed, anyone within wifi range could connect to the main copy of the software running and get all the same information in real-time.

I am not a tech-guru or anything. I don't have a copy of PokerGFX to test if this is actually that easy. I am merely pointing out what I have found which gave me kind of an "aha" moment. This makes perfect sense and by the manual, it seems incredibly easy once you guess the password(s).

I want this information to reach the powers that be in this case and hopefully all the way to the people assigned to the investigation. Hopefully they are looking at every single angle but this theory seems to be one of the more easier ones, and does not involve any help from the inside.

I will also take the time to email LATB about this potential exploit. If it's happening at Stones.... it could literally be happening at any even that uses PokerGFX with minimal security.

That's all guys thanks for coming to my TEDTalk.

Look guys, you are all overcomplicating a very simple situation.

Having carefully examined all the evidence, it is clear that he has a magic talking penis that tells him how to play.

Case closed.

Long live Postle!

lol its painfully obvious hes cheating why is this thread so long with indepth discussion. if i was a big loser to him and didnt have anything to lose i know what id do.

Why didn't the Ocean's 11 team go around asking the casino/security employees if they wanted to help them with the big heist? Would make the job easier if they had an inside man or two, instead of having to work only from the outside. The employee could have simply switched off all the infrared lasers n whatnot and then they don't need that tiny Asian gymnast.

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GG Case Closed.

I think you're definitely on the right path. Someone said that the room for the commentators is never locked and some vlogger put his bag in there and went back to get it hours after the game ended. He was able to get the bag because the door was unlocked and noone was in there. Mike or whoever else was involved could have easily got in there put a usb drive in laptop that handles the stream and sends the videos to him and to accomplice who talks to him with the bone conducting headphones either voice or text to speech.

This requires another license dongle. If it happened this way there would be records of someone buying it from the company. It would be the smoking gun.

Xenicide:
Two Questions I have for this hand versus Chris Moneymaker at 1:17:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y41k...outu.be&t=4658

Can anyone who has watched hundreds of hands remember when MP specifically bet by stacking his chips and sliding them in? The way he puts in the chips on every street seems unique to me vs all of the hands ive watched.

Also is Mike's reaction after winning the pot a reverse tell. If you were cheating and wanted to dump money to one of your boys, would you make sure to react so animatedly uspet.


The other hand this session with weird betting patterns is this hand at the end vs Chris at 4:16:28 https://youtu.be/y41krxUrcqs?t=15388

It is interesting in that the MP data shows he almost never makes an incorrect decision on the river except in hands with Chris.

Also, does the way MP bets his counterfitted two pair on the river remind you of the remind me of the way the french guys signal each other in the Poker Finals in france or am I too deep in finding conspiracy mode lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiEYHR11qA

I imagine Mike got the feed sent directly to his own phone. Assuming the accomplice needs to be inside the casino premises to relay hole card information to Postle, where is this accomplice going to hang out for all this time? Can't just sit down at an empty chair for 5+ hours at a time, day after day, constantly texting or talking on the phone, without raising some eyebrows. Plus he'll be on security cameras.

Amazing

Someone needs with photoshop skills needs to do the worm prison game scene from rounders would be instant classic.

Yes If you didn't see them chat then they probably didn't. I am going to check it for myself in a minute, that 30 minute window is key.

If he is going to change his story from "I went and asked him" to... "I was texting him about what cards he had during the game" then lmao

Reading the manual there's also an optional per-table password someone would need to know.

Justin may be innocent, but the fact that he had this go on under his watch for over a year makes him guilty. Instead of first degree murder we will let Justin slide with Manslaughter.

I agree but the bone conducting headphones seem to be definitely a thing hes using. I feel like an accomplice could sit at a low stakes game on their phone and watch the live stream on their phone without the delay and text mike the hands and mike having a text to speech app tell relay it to the headphones. Obviously theyd have to conceal to make sure noone close can see hes watching a different stream than everyone else. Not saying itd be easy but look at what Mike pulled off on stream.

They use their affiliate agents to pay out withdrawls?!?

Wow its even sketchier of a site than I imagined.

Its actually incredibly common right now and some of them are running huge games. The agents are just middle men so the sites don't need payment processor. Essentially play money site that has private clubs that bunch of people get together and play real money. This used to be common on stars for people to run real money games in play money games after blackfriday.

Maybe someone with a programming know-how could tell us if it would be possible to program card-to-speech software to be sent to Mike's earpiece. Also sometimes Mike is delaying preflop in a spot before calling a big bet and looking down at his phone. It seems like he's waiting for the live feed to catch up so he knows his opponent doesn't have a big overpair before he commits a lot of chips.

Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it isn’t sketchy, though. Interesting to know it’s being done more to bypass payment processing, thanks for the tidbit

The hat/bone vibration stuff is fascinating but I think a far more plausible explanation is that Postle was feigning deep thought/concentration while he looked down at his phone. Keep in mind he has to know that players are most likely watching him. The brim conceals where his eyes are going.

So if I was cheating and had a live stream on my phone, I would put it between my legs and sit in a seat where security cameras aren't facing. I would try to sit next to the dealer so the phone is screened from the other players by the table. I would use a bone conducting bluetooth headset so I could listen in under padding in my hat. I would turn my head down to shield my eyes from view with my hat, and pretend I was looking at my cards. I would feel weird about looking at my crotch constantly, so I would ask the commentators to narrate my hands. "Can he find a fold with the nut flush?" "Can he pull off a sick bluff with just a pair of fives into 2 players?" I might even occasionally laugh at their jokes. When people catch on I might even ask someone else who also wears a padded cap to do a podcast with me.

So the accomplice not only has to watch the live stream covertly, but also be texting Mike repeatedly, and also play poker himself? This seems more difficult and complicated to pull off...

I can confirm that, and I've just spent 20 minutes needlessly grabbing screengrabs and timestamps, because I didn't realise HarryKane09 had already done so. [EDIT: See post 5900. I made notes with even more accurate timestamps, but I won't bother posting now.] Well played, Harry. Everything lines up perfectly timewise.
In short, the viewers asked "Why did he just call?" and it appears that JFK directly went out and asked Postle about it, I presume that in their short conversation (JFK had to get back to the chatbox) Postle flat-out lied to him about his holecards. JFK likely passed on that incorrect info about holecards to the chatbox thinking he was doing the viewers/commentators a favour. JFK wouldn't know Postle was lying. He worshipped him like a God. In his naivety, he believed all of Mike's bullshit.