put like that, makes good sense.

though lots of media attention on this one... ESPN, CNBC, local news, and to a lesser degree all the youtubers, this thread.

Can the commish really just stick their heads in the sand?

I can imagine Mike reading this forum and thinking things like ...

''hahahah this guy is trippin, yo ''

"Wow, this guy is onto something!"

yea i mean its not like he went into police files and deleted evidence. but it does make him suspicious and police do look for behaviors like this when investigating suspects for crimes.

more importantly, why are ppl here misspelling "rediculous", is it a meme or are ppl just illiterate?

I agree with most everything, but the scenario that generates the fewest digital traces is the scenario we're in, where most everything is on-premises tech and not in the cloud.

Lance, Do you have the cards?

It really was not that hard with all the data that has been collected in the spreadsheet I linked, whoever put that together should get a ton of credit.. If someone wants to go through the videos and add a bracelet variable I'd be happy to look into tat.

lol

"Hey mike, I want you to understand that you should not DESTROY ALL THE EVIDENCE. Is that perfectly clear? Of all the things you must mustn't immediately do DESTROYING ALL THE EVIDENCE would be the most important. Now go home and do not DESTROY ALL THE EVIDENCE."

https://www.orlandocriminaldefenseat...troy-evidence/

I don't know. But it's at least a possibility. Not directly on point, but just a couple of weeks ago, the New York Times had a splashy story about how the California Horse Racing Board, in a months-long process, secretly buried a positive drug test by Justify, the 2018 Triple Crown Winner. The story got a lot of publicity. But nothing is ultimately being done about it.

One of the great powers that industries and their lobbies have is to simply slow-walk issues until the public forgets about them.

big if true

Another thing with the bracelet is that he usually hides this wrist under the table and rarely wears short sleeves so it is usually concealed. However these could all easily be red herrings and a remote access to a laptop through that google app mentioned several pages ago seems very plausible too. I wonder if the casino cameras are more accurate than the stream cameras and can provide closeups.

I saw those first two things when I skimmed through it yesterday, but I missed the bit where Taylor Smith (I think we can confirm it's him) comes in. Screengrab: (Smith is the man in the hat on right, just after he gave the dealer a new headset)

Now, as with the session where I showed Lance doing something eerily similar (during a break in Mike's Godmoding), the production crew does have a legitimate reason for changing dealers' headsets, and/or resetting the software at the table, particularly if the RFID has been intermittently failing. This video and screengrab does, at least, place Taylor in the building, and in a production role, for Mike's first cheating session.

Random thought about blood clots. If he is having problems with blood clots because of playing online poker, presumably because he's sitting down so much, isn't playing live poker going to be just as bad? Shouldn't he be quitting poker all together?

There's two distinctions there:

1. Because it is narcotics, there is a specific statute allowing mom to throw them out. That statute is necessary because simple possession is an offense. Indeed, basically all possession crimes have that defense. A felon who finds a firearm that she isn't allowed to possess is allowed to take possession long enough to destroy it or take it to the police. Etc.

But possession or a cell phone or a bluetooth headset or car keys with a transmitter in them is not illegal. It's not an offense at all. The issue isn't a prosecution for possession; it's that the phone or the headset or the keys or whatever are evidence. (I do realize that you can stretch and say that perhaps these are "cheating devices" that are prohibited by the poker cheating statute, but I don't see how you can really say that about the headset. It's just a headset usable for lots of things like listening to music or a TED talk at the table. At any rate, see 2.)

2. Crucial to the Orlando lawyer's hypothetical is that mom finds the drugs. Not the criminal. The criminal's mother. A third party who has not yet participated in any crime.

In contrast, when the defendant himself disposes of the drugs, that definitely can be prosecuted as obstruction of justice. Because he's already possessed them and committed the crime, so he's not entitled to the "possession long enough to dispose" defense.

And just to let you know that I know where people will go next, no, Postle can't just "give" the items to third parties (other than his lawyer, who has an ethical duty to preserve them) for destruction or secretion. That's obstruction of justice too. Nor can the son give the drugs to mom and tell her to get rid of them, and escape a possession charge if the government can prove he did indeed possess them.

(I should add, his answer on the child pornography hypothetical is clearly incorrect. Child pornography possession also has a defense for immediate reporting to the police. If the lawyer represents the wife, the answer is simple- he has to advise her to call the police and report what she has found. If the lawyer represents the couple, the answer is also simple- he has to advise her that he has a conflict of interest and that she needs to seek separate counsel.)

From articles/interviews I've seen about gamers getting them, it is about the sitting.

Given that any little break of the clot into your bloodstream can get to your heart and/or brain and cause instant death, you'd think they'd advise against it, but I'm no doctor.

So much this.

Hate to sound tinfoily but with how poorly/absurdly/moronically everyone (at this point I think it’s close to 100% there’s no chance it’s a lone wolf) involved here was wrt handling making sure the cheating wasn’t super obvious there’s a way nonzero chance he picked a few commentators to give $100-$200 per session (nice little bonus just to be there) to to “cover it up in the booth”.

Anyone that thinks this isn’t in play is pretty delusional.

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yeah no ones gonna see a dude steal basically 5-15k a session and accept 100-200 to keep it quiet.

he likely takes blood thinners (even just baby aspirin). or he's full of **** and it's a moot point. really doesn't matter.

No one is saying that it isnt a possibility. What's being said is that with the information at hand, it is irresponsible and dangerous to make such accusations. I believe Joey and Doug have more information on this than we do, so until that information is released or new evidence emerges, I am on the side that they were not in on it.

Justin Kuraitis' old username on 2p2 was Imnotthedevil fyi:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/321251/

the posts are from many years ago and not relevant to the cheating, just posting it because I didn't see anyone else mention it.

Great post.

It is a moot point, but Redgrape was curious.

A friend of mine had one probably 1/10th the size that Mike describes, and is still dealing with it, and restrictions, 6-7 years later. She's still on blood thinners.

I will say, if you can find he's lying about any of his major points in the Matusow interview, including the blood clot, it definitely works against him. Basically, if he's willing to lie about stupid things, logic dictates he's absolutely going to lie about bigger picture things.

My suspicion is that his online crushing is probably mostly true, and probably the blood clot too. It's way too easy to verify.

That said, the dumbass has admitted to structuring (having other's cash out his chips) and downplaying online results to avoid the IRS. And he's on record with specific numbers. Not too bright.

Just one more point on commentators.

Bear in mind there is an entire spectrum between "in on the fraud" and "no inkling whatsoever".

This is an especially sensitive issue due to defamation suits. You can't just call someone a cheater based on rumors or hunches. You have to be right.

It's entirely possible that people wondered. Harbored suspicions. Heard some scuttlebutt and rumors. And maybe didn't cover themselves in glory on the air in the way they talked about Postle.

But that's all very different from being a co-conspirator. Very, very different.

The whole I have a daughter and health issues angle is such an obvious thing that scammers do when they’re caught to deflect it’s so obvious and doesn’t have anything to do with anything it’s laughable

I posted it for posterity. Notice I literally never said anything about how it relates to his guilt in the case because it doesn't. I'm sure he was getting ****-talked on both platforms and wanted to avoid any heat he could.

https://youtu.be/WaWPHGvuqDg?t=11926

This has been posted before but not explained. Postle has something in his hand that looks like a device that he points towards the table and presses (possibly turning on or syncing) which he tries to hide then quickly tucks away into his top pocket.