Wow this is incredible!!!! Unreal find.

https://youtu.be/09jdsX8vkMI?t=6951

First time he has ever bought a new car.

What did he do with his millions from online poker? By his own admission, rolling in cash pre-2010 from crushing online ... but he never bought a new car ... until just recently.

Quoting just so i can see it again.

I guess a question that should be asked is whether or not the key is always at least consistent with what he is driving. If he was at least prudent enough to update his keys when his car brands change that would benefit his case, but if not, that would be damning as hell. And I can more than easily see someone being too lazy to update keys relative to their cheating if you had one that already worked.

Also, does he ever do the key thing in his non-cheating sessions? Never seen that talked about.

When he uses his bracelet for the first time Joey notices that they are also using a new deck for the first time. It is so obvious, new deck new cheating program bought. All in all actually a very simple explanation. Still think Justin is probably unwitting accomplice but who knows.

Its harder than you think. You get two sn per hand but which of the 2 cards does it belong to? If there are two decks and shuffler you also have two sets of Sn's

Is he walking in through the curtain here whilst he double-tasks? He then pops back out to turn the stream on. He definitely knows all about the tech. Doesn't seem like he is walking across the room and back, or has the time to do so. And even if he was, who is in charge of the live feed in Justin's area?

Nice, finally a list of all the suspects!

The keyfob was investigated about a day and half ago. I'm not sure at what point he bought his car (a Nissan/Infiniti) but in some streams he has the keyfob shown in the recent pictures ITT, and in others (not sure if earlier or later) he used a rubber cover/protector that looks like this one: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/70oAA...rXL/s-l640.jpg

The consensus was that the keyfob is legit, and it's a red herring if you're looking for a card-reading device. (Unless, of course, he doesn't own an Infiniti).

P.S. At some point I think he changed his phone, or put a new cover on it, just like millions of normal people do.

EDIT: Kerr just pointed out that the first mention of the new car is on the stream dated April 6th, 2019.

Take a look inside the hat:



Source: NLHE 01-09-19
"https://youtu.be/PR6eMJZ3STk?t=15794"

What do you guys think? Is there something inside?

This.
This thread could easily be 200 posts if all the repeated ideas and bs weren’t here

so there are five 'live techs'.

So far I think theres no debate if hes cheating. There are a few things in question.

I still think Mike can't see the boards atleast not the entire time. The first hand that made me think this is the imfamous 95 os hand vs 46 and aq. Yes its suspect that he called pre and flopped a pair but his flop line is what got me. He insta donkjams flop to blow aq off to make sure he didn't improve. The aq would have bricked out if he had known this he would have checked to induce. The other hand is the aa vs i think it was k2dd. The flop was total air for k2dd but mike gave off a free card knowing he wouldnt call with no pair no draw. The turn guy picked up flush draw and check called a bet and rivers the flush and mike folds. If mike knew the guy makes the winner he would have barreled the flop to take it down.

The other reason is the coolers he could avoid. That QT hand vs kj that was posted earlier is a prime example. If mike knew he would have lost he would have either folded preflop to avoid the cooler (which given his style may have looked sketch folding qt pre) or he could have bombed the flop bc kj would have snap folded. Theres other examples of this but im certain he cant see the boards atleast in their entirety and for all sessions.

The other debate is if he has an inside man. I think if you polled this thread itd be 95/5 justin/taylor. I think it may be something that hasn't been heavily being discussed is he can only pull this off when justin is there. Everyone says mike is likeable maybe he buddied up justin to get close to him and put usb/trojan on his laptop he uses when the streams up. This would explain when justins not there this laptop isn't in play. This may not exempt taylor because the graphics thing is insanely sketchy. Don't get me wrong justin is still the worst. He is either guilty as hell or incompetent.

I also think we need to consider other players being at the table cheating. You have a guy this cocky who was around during potripper days and gets the golden ticket and his first thought isn't "i gotta make this look good." I thought maybe a chance he started out being careful to make it look legit, but no seems like he came out going for it right away. If you are this cocky and stupid at some point wouldn't you also bring in a friend. This friend could be for someone for Mike to purposely lose some pots to (someone people did hero mike super light) because maybe he may have thought hey i gotta lose some hands. Mike was clearly too greedy with this win rate to dump to someone hes cheating in the game so would have done it to a friend. Another option is the friend is also super using but passed the 4th grade and knows to only use it a few times. Theres a chance this person may not even need whatever tool mikes using but mike could just signal him in big pots. Could do this with shuffle of chips differently, a cough, a yawn, anything really.

Also ive spent a ton of time in casinos. Aren't there cameras everywhere? Shouldn't they have clear video and possible audio of every square inch of pokeroom including the behind the scenes? Clearly whoever investigated this, assuming they did any at all, would have seen what was going on and couldn't afford for the truth to come out.

They weren’t different, they just had a key cover on them

Unfortunately this forum’s software is balls. For example, you can’t get notifications if you have been mentioned or quoted. Most threads don’t blow up like this so it’s usually not an issue.

No more investigation is needed. What we need is action from police, gaming authorities, lawyers. There’s no point looking at more hands and Mike’s hair or hat or keys or bracelet.

Yours? Even if we assume the reader can't distinguish your individual cards you're getting 2 sn per hand that have to be one card or the other. You're also getting 1/3 chance of a certain card being a certain sn every flop on 3 other sns. Writing a app that automatically calculated probability of certain sn to certain cards and allows you to input a few cards each round you choose to input them is not rocket science. It's certainly not adding much to the complexity by adding the ability to select from two decks.

Anyone who can get the RFID serial numbers(especially static ones) of cards could have a huge edge with limited effort.

in the comments mikes brother says they chopped the payout. go figure!

^^stones prolly already knows exactly what was going on..only question is, how thy proceed from now on

Yeah I don't even want to hear him dumb explain his hands. IDC. He himself gave numbers of basically 200bb/100 for 277 hours. That's it. That right there proves he's cheating. Unequivocally.

One of the dumbest things I've ever heard a poker player say honestly. Let alone one that is being accused of cheating lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgSEVtJqfzE

Found an episode of mike cheating during tournament play, the signs are there he has the under armour hat with the bulge on in this stream, nobody looked into this? it only has 200 views. Mike absolutely DOMINATES this tournament he doesnt take it down in first place due to obvious reasons in the video he ends up getting 3rd place

I was there Tuesday and Thursday, did not see JFK. Stones 100k Mini Main Event is running this weekend and JFK was on Good Day Sacramento to promote it. So if he's not there this weekend, that would be a sign.

That stream is really bizarre. I mentioned it about 1500 posts ago, when I pretty much accused Taylor of being the main accomplice. Justin (and several other staff) were away, so Taylor was both commentating and being floorman for that stream. He kept going out to the floor as there were problems. He mentions being overworked and being very tired. Someone else (not implicated in cheating - I think his name is Lance) was in control of the broadcast. Postle doesn't cheat in that session. He doesn't even wear a hat.
Postle mostly cheats when Taylor is in the building, but not in the commentary booth.

Nissan/Infiniti are the same company and platform

Agree 100%
If you wanted to scam someone, a poker player is the easiest target for a variety of reasons.

So don't play. It doesn't really matter why you are losing. Maybe you are being cheated, or maybe your playing style does not match up well against those opponents, or maybe those opponents are just really good, or maybe they have a read on you, or maybe after a few bad sessions now you are "trying too hard" and playing an inferior game to your normal winning game. The solution is the same -- if you lose here and win everywhere else, play everywhere else.

The great thing about poker is that we have a choice. If you are a football player and your team can't beat a team in your division... too bad, you still have to play them. Not so in poker.