No. It makes no sense when comparing that to the hands played out.

He's getting holecards, not who'd have the best hand on the river

You do realize this whole thing centers around that it's a livestreamed game, right? That sort of cheating would be done off a damn stream. If your cheating method didn't rely on the videostream, why would you do it on a videostream? Think a little lol

It's also easy to speak in code with people at the table.

I am a little offended the let him out to dry in that PLO hand knowing only 2 of the 4 cards.

You have to be really blatant about it to make $1000/hour at 2/5. It might not be worth it if it were subtler.

Maybe similar things go on at high stakes televised games but are subtler.

LOL

I think Justin’s handling of the first “thorough investigation” is incredibly circumspect. Mike claimed he was never interviewed. Mike was never suspended pending review. It’s really hard to understand that. And yet Justin was later quick to dismiss any insinuation of cheating with his aforementioned “thorough review.”

Strange to say the least.

Yeah I worry about this. He and whoever his accomplice is just deny forever and any criminal prosecution falls apart and he just fades into obscurity ... Maybe he gets sued but it looks like he's a Degen so doubt he pays much.

Bro, he just got dinged up a little at the barber here.

how do i make this 3 second part a gif? looks like he just got caught jerking off

Wait, Justin K is out of the booth EXACTLY 30minutes before this hand (ie when the hand takes place in real time Justin is not in the commentary booth but somewhere else). He's in the booth before and after that..

Yes, but...it's Stones that is on the line for money for the very good reason that Stones has money. There was a previous case where the guy said something like "I took this money and I'm not planning to make it good." And pretty much nothing happened to him. With that in mind, the smart thing for Stones is to say "We take our security and reputation seriously. We want everyone to know that WE were scammed and WE will take responsibility by paying off the losers." This will cost them less than the lawyers to defend the case.

There seems to be an easy way to prove this all out, no? Postle agrees to play a 5 session 1 week series at Live at the Bike and the line up includes some of those from Stones he cheated like Berky, Marle, and Hanson. Add in Garrett and a few other big game regulars and play out the 5 session series. Whatever stakes GOD wants 1/3, 2/5, 5/5 whatever. Rules for the game. no hats, no keys, no phones. Play 5-4 hour sessions we can see the cards and the play and then if his play or stats or instincts are anywhere close to his "streak" he will have proven to the world that he was not cheating. BTW he will NEVER agree to this.

No. Welcome to the thread.

There doesn't seem to be enough evidence to confidently nail Justin to being in on this.

most of the scams , staking deals gone wrong etc are only tangentially breaking the law. So who would prosecute.

Very specific laws in CA Penal code were broken if any sort of device was used to expose cards in CA Card Room. As was mentioned in another post above, Fed laws also broken if above is true and people conspired.

Does any one think numnuts paid his taxes on his now documented 250K gambling winnings in 2018. IRS is ruthless. Of all his upcoming problems, this one by far the worst for him.


qft. CGCB gas egg all over their face. I doubt they let this go with a simple fine.

Where is Taylor during these sessions?

Is graphics guy workstation setup near the commentators booth?

Literally a curtain between them



edit: The graphic workstation is behind the curtain in the commentary booth

After Mike calls the river he barely looks at the villain's cards to know he's beat. He makes a quick glance but reacts too quickly to have genuinely just learned the guy made a straight.

Soto and Berkey in the last S4Y Vlog said they are in the same booth/room, with just a curtain between them.

When you flop top pair, turn top two pair, and want to go kick your dog.

FIVE STARS!

she says "the tech is right behind commentary"


dont know what tech means

Technician, the guy handling the technical aspects of the production.

Ok that's what I assumed.
JFK is clearly in on it, just wondering if any other accomplices.


That 2pair hand vs straight is ridiculous. his reaction on the turn lol. Why did he payoff the river? feel like this greedy shmuck would have no problem making crazy hero folds

Im just damn proud of Mike M. for getting clean and having a well prepped coherent interview. This man is clearly on top of his game.

also the QT hand is in fact pure gold!!

SUPER interesting thing here too is that Kermit is in seat 5 during this hand. I was not aware that he'd played on the stream, let alone with Mike.

Kermit is the local minority owner of the casino. (The majority owners are part of an entrepreneurial real estate development group down in La Jolla who provided most of the capital and expertise to redevelop the Stones property and migrate the gaming licenses from the 2 cardrooms that were already in the city.) He does, or at least used to, have managerial powers, and is effectively the ultimate guy in charge of Stones on a local level although he doesn't do day-to-day operations.

You can see in the 15 or so minutes before the hand in question that Kermit is standing by the table behind Hollywood. He does have what looks like some friendly exchanges with Mike before they expand the table to 9-handed to let him sit down.

No, I can't conceive that Kermit is/was in on anything. On the one hand, he partly enjoys his good fortune simply by virtue of holding a gaming license before a moratorium on new licenses went into effect. He would never have had the means or vision to create Stones on his own. On the other hand, he is a businessman, and while friendly, he truly is a no-nonsense guy with actual business sense. He's nowhere close to an idiot.

So no, there's absolutely zero way he had any idea anything was going on. You don't risk your entire business and entire personal fortune (he'd be sued into the ground by the other owners if he were in on it) just to help some guy bank what Mike did.

What makes this super interesting to me though is that it shows that an owner knew who Mike was before all this, has played in the streamed game, and has specifically played with Mike. Presumably, he should have a very real personal interest and sense of outrage over what's going on, rather than simply a business concern.

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