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Random thought is it possible he got the twitch stream key and watched from the dashboard on his phone? Any streamers know if that would show no delayed stream?

Great point, I definitely think this is possible. I'm not sure if that's how LATB does it or if its best practice, but on Joey Ingrams live podcast going on now, a guest commentator came forward in chat and said that one time at Stones, they were accidentally showing the live stream without delay on the several tv sets.

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10-03-2019 , 01:47 AM

#1552

Grind On My Mind

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Twitch key is a possibility.... You could theoretically guess the key as well i suspect.

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10-03-2019 , 01:49 AM

#1553

HarryKane09

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 125

The stream that joey is doing now is a must watch.

Joey is going thru one of his only losing sessions, when Justin was working the WSOP. Postle is different in everyway. His body language, keeps standing up, hat back to front, left arm being above the table and what looks like a different phone. Plus of course he is actually losing hands

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10-03-2019 , 01:49 AM

#1554

SuitedJunk

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,682

There are "Bone Conducting Speakers" that could be installed in his hat that someone could be communicating to him on. They aren't audible to others, just to whomever is wearing them... However, that doesn't explain looking down at his penis.

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10-03-2019 , 01:49 AM

#1555

kep

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,720

This Postle non-winning session is really damning. A completely different player.

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10-03-2019 , 01:50 AM

#1556

SuitedJunk

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Originally Posted by HarryKane09

The live streams keep freezing up for me, I'm still watching the stream from earlier #2. I'll watch #3 tomorrow when it isn't live anymore.

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10-03-2019 , 01:51 AM

#1557

gotgot123

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 2,537

whats the stream with the 86? i want to see if anyone folded preflop one of the cards they tried to change to. The clip people cropped only shows when it goes to flop

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10-03-2019 , 01:52 AM

#1558

DevoGKT

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Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 174

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Originally Posted by Grind On My Mind

Twitch key is a possibility.... You could theoretically guess the key as well i suspect.

Guessing the key is about as likely as Postle being 100% legit. Not happening lol

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10-03-2019 , 01:54 AM

#1559

milespro

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 187

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Originally Posted by DevoGKT

Guessing the key is about as likely as Postle being 100% legit. Not happening lol

Yeh it's a huge key. Justin could have simply given it to him or maybe through social engineering

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10-03-2019 , 01:54 AM

#1560

Alex Wice

aka Double Ice

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,951

He's clearly looking at his phone already, I don't see the motive to additionally have a mic.

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10-03-2019 , 01:59 AM

#1561

WhirlingDervish

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Originally Posted by gotgot123

This is somewhat wrong. Can't remember who said it on Twitter but someone played on this show and it got their whole cards wrong in a hand. In the same hand the graphics was showing two J diamonds. One on the flop and one in God's hand

So they do misread

It me, and this is correct

Btw - I saw the posts about Postle usually sitting in Seats 1 and 2, and also this new Joey Ingram stream where Postle is losing/low energy.

It makes me think of the last time I was on the stream (6/17). Postle sat in seat 6? (one of the middle seats, directly to my L) and was super low-energy the whole stream. Wasn't the same guy I'd played with several times before.

I remember thinking, ****, Postle's on my left. But he was far from dangerous that night.

Here's the link if anyone wants to look closer at it; I would but I'm late-night smashing a work project tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iajF2_mLyts

Last edited by WhirlingDervish; 10-03-2019 at 02:05 AM. Reason: Added link

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10-03-2019 , 02:01 AM

#1562

NickyC

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,840

I basically quit poker long ago, but threads like this keep me coming back to 2+2.

A+

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10-03-2019 , 02:05 AM

#1563

Tanqueray

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 1,689

RFID codes --> hand graphic: is this done by script or an actual person?

If it's done by script, then it would seem pretty hard for it to be wrong.

If it's done manually, then it is much more likely that someone just messed up on entering the hand.

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10-03-2019 , 02:09 AM

#1564

Primedirective@

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Best tweet of the year!!!! Lmao!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/berkey11/status/...557689856?s=09

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10-03-2019 , 02:15 AM

#1565

DevoGKT

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https://twitter.com/marlecordeiro/st...338151431?s=21

Check that thread out. Not sure how to imbed on my phone. Justin and Postle can’t get their lies straight.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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10-03-2019 , 02:19 AM

#1566

dazedace

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Originally Posted by XcrazylegsX

First off I want to say that I have not been reading up on this thread in the past few hours, so if anyone has already noted any of these points, I apologize for the redundancy and for not giving them credit.

I was very curious when someone posted Mike's monthly results for 2019 and his only losing month was June. Another thing that peaked my interest was people noting that Stones TD Justin Kuraitis was in Vegas in June. So I decided to do some more research into this and see if there was correlation in the timeline of Mike's poor results in June and Justin being in Vegas in June.

Justin Kuraitis:
Scrolling through Justin's twitter timeline, it looks like he was in Vegas from approximately May 28 through July 12. I'm sure someone can verify the exact dates. I've posted the links to his first and last tweets from Vegas that are stamped "from Nevada".

Justin in Vegas May 28 - July 12
-https://twitter.com/JFKPokerTD/status/1133501942628380672
-https://twitter.com/JFKPokerTD/status/1149867365028380672

Mike Postle:
All of Mike's sessions from May 20 - July 20 are listed below. I have determined based on watching the hands which sessions he is cheating and which sessions he is not. I am an experienced player and consider myself qualified to make these determinations, but I have posted links to spots I believe indicate cheating or not cheating so you can take a look at them for yourself. A couple of things I noticed about Mike's appearance that differ when he is cheating vs when he is not cheating. When he is cheating, he is always wearing his hat forward and his phone is in his lap. However, when he is not cheating, he is either not wearing a hat or he is wearing his hat backward and his phone is not always in his lap.

Mike cheating May 20 (wearing hat forward):
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=2777
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=6239
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=7525
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=8011
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=8203
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=12043
-https://youtu.be/ZQuQPmjV8z8?t=13694 (This hand is amazing - RFID doesn't pick up opponent's cards until right after hand)

Mike not cheating June 1 (NO HAT):
-https://youtu.be/8lwIMGA1q64?t=1349
-https://youtu.be/8lwIMGA1q64?t=4322

Mike not cheating June 3 (wearing hat backward):
-https://youtu.be/SWgp-1UhSl8?t=9857
-https://youtu.be/SWgp-1UhSl8?t=12882

Mike not cheating June 15 (wearing hat backward):
-https://youtu.be/x7QrK6wYz0w?t=1425
-https://youtu.be/x7QrK6wYz0w?t=4243

Mike not cheating June 17 (wearing hat backward):
-https://youtu.be/iajF2_mLyts?t=4629
-https://youtu.be/iajF2_mLyts?t=6302

Mike not cheating July 8 (wearing hat backward):
-https://youtu.be/n2HMF2q6UXE?t=1924
-https://youtu.be/n2HMF2q6UXE?t=2635

Mike cheating July 20 (wearing hat forward):
-https://youtu.be/uQujzYc-lrk?t=8450
-https://youtu.be/uQujzYc-lrk?t=9456
-https://youtu.be/uQujzYc-lrk?t=11081
-https://youtu.be/uQujzYc-lrk?t=11521

Based on this timeline, I have come to the conclusion that Mike does not cheat when Justin is not around. Coincidence? Definitely possible. But this needs to be more thoroughly investigated.

Hopefully everyone involved in this scheme will be brought to justice and we can figure out exactly how this was done so we can prevent it from ever happening again.

This was all known already, you are too late

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10-03-2019 , 02:20 AM

#1567

DK Barrel

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Originally Posted by Grind On My Mind

Twitch key is a possibility.... You could theoretically guess the key as well i suspect.

No it's not. The realtime feed would never be transmitted to Twitch. There's an internal feed that is shown to the commentators on a delay, that feed with the commentary added is then streamed.

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10-03-2019 , 02:21 AM

#1568

swivet

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Who's going to find a picture for the new meme "Crotch Magic?"

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10-03-2019 , 02:21 AM

#1569

PerDoom

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Still funny @Mike_postle deleted his $10 offer tweet for people to find a hand where he put money in bad and basically no one found anything despite so many people going through these streams.

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10-03-2019 , 02:22 AM

#1570

THE OUTLAW

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Originally Posted by DevoGKT

Honestly I hope Justin gets what’s coming even more than postle. Postle is scum of scrum but clearly he’s not the mastermind. He’s dumb as **** actually. Everything else points to Justin. That smug prick

^^^This.

I don't agree that he's the mastermind, but this Justin guy is equally guilty here. I hope that he is punished to the fullest extent of the law and, for the sake of poker players everywhere, is never employed in a casino ever again.

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10-03-2019 , 02:29 AM

#1571

golfbum983

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Originally Posted by PerDoom

Still funny @Mike_postle deleted his $10 offer tweet for people to find a hand where he put money in bad and basically no one found anything despite so many people going through these streams.

There was 1 time he put in 40$

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10-03-2019 , 02:34 AM

#1572

david negus

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 612

is the flop rfid or manually entered? if manual, could be human error there.

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10-03-2019 , 02:35 AM

#1573

Tanqueray

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Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 1,689

I am a bit confused as to how the correction of cards worked.

Postle had no reason to think that his hole cards were shown incorrectly to inform anyone.

So how would the tech team or commentator know that his cards were shown incorrectly?

They would had to have first watched the "finished" video feed of that hand along with the "incorrect" hold cards, suspected that Postle could not have made that bluff, approached him to find out if perhaps the card reader was off, before Postle could realize that his hole cards were shown incorrectly.

Is it pretty standard for staff to confirm hole cards with players if they don't think action matches their hole cards?

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10-03-2019 , 02:37 AM

#1574

mukdukaluk

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 572

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Originally Posted by golfbum983

There was 1 time he put in 40$

Him citing this as an example is the biggest flag to his not being the mastermind imo. Can't be too smart if you think $40 out of the $2k+ you win during a session would exonerate you in the eyes of poker players.