You should take a full stream and go through every hand in it. That’s what does the convincing. Just going through individual hands won’t do it. Watching the whole stream even if you fast forward to only hands he is in and watch him look at his lap before soul reading the table will convince you.


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THIS. Imagine if an IRS agent audited him. He almost certainly didn't claim the 250k so he would have to show who he had to split that money with. Boom. He also would then be subject to jail time for tax evasion.

Guys, there’s a Stones stream where Justin is commentating with Mike on one of his Godruns. Maybe we should rewatch his behavior during it to see any texting or other shady **** going on.

Edit: Wait, is Justin ever commentating when mike is on the table (I got confused with the interview video). I can see on their YT that he commentates regularly but can’t find the ones where Mike is also playing.

Considering the fact that he cheated so blatantly and that, all in all, this was a poorly done scheme (that should have been caught way way sooner, netting him way less money) that will harm his reputation forever, it doesn't seem like Postle has a full grasp on reality, much like the deities before him.

If he had someone on inside then it is unlikely other poker streams have cheating. Like only reason he got away with this is his man on inside was allegedly the director.

Ive seen the videos and Im now nearly 100% convinced he is cheating. Are you a recreational player? Almost every seasoned poker pro who has chimed in on this is convinced Postle is a cheat. Its usually the newer players who don’t have a good grasp of strategy who aren’t convinced.

Its like when I watch a chess game and a GM is convinced another player is using an engine to cheat because of the inhuman moves he makes. I could never catch this since I suck at chess and lack the understanding to recognize when someone is cheating but I will take the experts’ word for it.

Cliffs on who the Justin dude is

Shout out to the guys for their work on this. Lots of time and effort to produce the session log and win rate.

What sinks him for me is how minimal his very few losses are. ONE session amounts to more than a 2 Buy In loss relative to stakes. And I only count one loss that is 2 BI, all others would be considered 1 BI. It’s impossible for a LAG with his VPIP to not sustain more losses at a high BI level given the limited amount of time he gets to play on stream (usually 4 hours). His graph is a rocket ship straight up with no variance at all save one time in June.

Supposedly he is in charge of running the live stream

Numerous pros with multiple WSOP bracelets and 10MM+ each in career tournament earnings would disagree with you. To me, that speaks volumes.

Just search function this thread for "Justin" and look at the posts mentioning the name

If Justin or another member of staff is in on this there might be another motive as well as purely for direct financial gain. These insane hands make a very entertaining watch for the stream & their big selling point is always making memes etc of Mike like he's some sort of god. (Though the latter could be purely a joke from the commentators who aren't in on it.)

Splitting $900 an hour between 2/3 of you and watch as your streams viewer count rises.. win/win. It seems crazy but this has gone on for two years now.

Or just put up two prop players and let them clash. Or I don´t know, anything that doesn't cheat all the other players out of a quarter million dollars.

It's the money.

Alright bros, Mike is cooked, he is done. This Justin guy however, is not.

Im sifting through the Stones Live Poker YouTube here for a stream where he is commentating and MP is playing (first one I found is ALL the way back in May 6th- he hasnt been commentating with Mike at the table since then).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBTJkgd7YsQ

Can someone help me look for any of the following:
(i) shady **** coming from the booth when Justin is commentating.
(ii) Mike Godmoding any hands (or rather, if he isnt!)
(iii) Any Mike Crotch sniffing (or the lack thereof)

If he is a mortal in this stream the OMG he is so done. Will Post Updates here:

HAND 1: Mike has a boat and his opponents have total air in PLO. He turned bottom boat and checked back turn for pot control. Then river, Mike BETS FOR VALUE with opponents having J high and K high respectively. AKA human play. Also no crotch sniffing.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=1559

WTF THE ****ING CROTCH PHONE IS NOT IN PLAY RIGHT NOW AND JUSTIN IS COMMENTATING!!



UPDATE 2: Justin confirms when he is gone to Vegas May 25th to July 16th
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=2832

Hand 2: Mike incorrectly bets a set into a flush and a made low in PLO HiLo so Mike has the worst equity in this hand and INCORRECTLY CALLS ON THE RIVER. THIS MAN IS HUMAN ALL OF A SUDDEN.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=2908

I'm about to play a super soft game. My strategy is to bluff calling stations in multi way pots. Hopefully I can pick spots where they have nothing every time.

OR, she was waiting for the right moment and support to come forward to make sure this has the best chance of making a case.

i think she said she stopped working as a dealer for a year on the January 2019 stream, and being a commentator isnt exactly working for Stones.

Mb this should have come up sooner, but who knows what she tried and the decisions shes made in the past year that led up to this. its ez for you to say this or that anonymously behind a monitor and keyboard... but im pretty sure Veronica is due some credit for her good deed. shes put her career and reputation on the line to bring to light a suspected cheater, an act she gains absolutely nothing from except peace of mind and a good nights sleep, and i respect that.

i think others at the casino do deserve some blame, as do the players themselves as it is ultimately their job to prtoect themselves. its not like they couldnt watch the stream playback themselves and they experienced it first hand.

I mean I don’t know but aren’t there very good quality high tech small cameras that you could easily hide in a room and direct it at the screen? I don’t think anybody he is working with is necessarily in the room while this is going down.

Joey man you're doing great work but I question why you need to go any further than this. I don't think you're going to find a more compelling hand. Not only does his play here make absolutely zero sense unless he knew that A) the all-in opponent couldn't beat 9 high and B) the opponent he was deep against did not have 99+ (and even then, it's barely +EV, if it even is at all), but he also seems to accidentally reveal that he somehow knows his all-in opponent has turned a draw before the cards are even flipped!! Literally the only plausible explanations (in order of likelihood) are

1) He is cheating and knows the hole cards
2) He had a stroke
3) You had a stroke
4) MiKe PoStLe MaKeS uNoRtHoDoX pLaYs YoU wOuLdN't UnDeRsTaNd

Those two losses (6/15, 7/24) are worth watching. I'm not a pro - I consider myself a winning rec. I understand the game enough to win at 5/5, but can't break it down the way others do.

The 6/15 game has the feel of one of those gamble-it-up LATB sessions. Someone named Birthday Girl (or something similar) is winning big, lots of cash flow. Seems more like a drunken home game to me.

The 7/24 session is also odd. He loses his first 1k buy-in (AJ vs AK all-in pre), which is odd, but in the past he's lost and bought in for the highest stack. He only rebuys 1k, then gets into a massive cooler. I think it was a bomb pot, but he lost K7 vs QQ on a KQ77X runout. Then he doesn't rebuy - only session I can remember where he leaves before the end.

Damning evidence? No, just very out of the norm from nearly every other session.

another key piece of evidence is him tweeting out "The only thing I apologize for is being better at poker than you", I have NEVER heard an innocent person talk like this

you don't need to be physically commenting for him to be colluding with mike, if anything, it's less likely he'd be doing it while on camera

but this is all kind of baseless anyway because we don't know the exact methodology

you missed it, but there was a tweet showing when justin was in vegas and not running the streams, Mike basically stopped showing up and playing... that's purely circumstantial but pretty damning if he didn't play while his prime accomplice suspect was out of town

btw I think it's worth mentioning that he is probably not cheating on literally every single hand, it is possible that his device had some occasional technical difficulties or moments where his inside guy had to take a bathroom break. or maybe there were spots when he thought another player was onto him glancing down all the time. or maybe he misread a text. not to mention that he at least had *some* self-awareness of the idea that this was being livestreamed so he couldn't exactly just open fold KK or whatever...though he does seem to do everything short of that

He doesn't have to leave, all he has to do is stop doing it. It is going to be borderline impossible to get hard evidence that would lead to a criminal charge, especially now that he knows the jig is up.

Now based on how bad and obvious he was at the cheating I can believe he might be dumb enough to fail at a cover up too but it would be so easy to clean this up. Everyone who knows anything about poker knows he was cheating but what physical evidence can come out of this at this point?

Without a confession from someone involved and/or some evidence like searching his phone and finding the cheating software on it, how can he be charged with anything? And how would a warrant to search his phone happen? As compelling as these hands are as evidence to poker players I can't imagine they are sufficient to get police involved.

On the other hand he is laughably dumb so hopefully he'll find a way to blow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QrK6wYz0w&t=1420s

This is from his big losing session, also when Justin is in Las Vegas. Notice how Postle has phone on the table and is not doing his whole look down into crotch maneuver.