Really gonna compare Alec to Mike? Seriously?

I think it had gone on long enough without detection that he likely just began to feel more and more safe about not getting caught. Also from some of the streams he clearly got a kick out of it and felt like no one really suspected much.

It would be naive to think there are not smarter players who do this and get away with it albeit for a much smaller win rate. Then again having access to live streamed games isn't something that is accessible for everyone.

They both cheated on live stream and thought they could get away with it. That's an easy and correct comparison.

I was thinking about doing this earlier today but couldn't figure out an easy way to see if he reloaded in the middle of the show. If you can think of an easy way to figure this out or account for it in someway, I'll go through some shows later tonight and pm you the results so you don't have to sort through every single one.

As much as I despise Torelli it’s really not.
Alec is an angler, Mike is a cheater.

From various other sources including looking up his screennames myself.
Not saying he didn’t cheat 100% but I myself am doubting these allegations.
First of all, the only evidence people have against him is his the small sample of soul reads that don’t divert from his standard style of play over the last 15 years or so. Multiple reputable players including Chris moneymaker vouched for him crushing games live and online when they played together all the way back to 2006 even. I can vouch that he crushed every time I saw him play including getting runner up to me for player of the series at an ante up series.
I played him heads up that series and his style of play was so different from every other pro. At the time I thought he was one of the best I ever played against. Still do. Unless this whole time hes been managing to cheat in every venue both live and online??? There is also a chance that he is a crusher who gave into temptation and cheated on live stream, but that’s not what my gut tells me having all the info that I do. I don’t know all the facts but I’m pretty sure I know more than 99% of people pointing the finger saying cheater.
Come talk **** when/if I’m wrong. I very well could be 🤷🏼*♂️

yea, after this, i would never play highstakes cash on live stream. i hope everyone realizes just how bad this is for poker. there needs to be better security measures to protect players.

im not sure its really possible to do without taking a ridiculous amount of time. im fine with initial buyin and ending balance for a rough estimate for now

How many streams has he played and how many eon and lost please?

Watched bit of Joey's review and at first I wasn't convinced, but there are so hands and spots that are way from standard and any great player would have a hard time justifying the lines taken, getting it in super light 54o v AK X2 aipf and a spot with but flush v straight flush just XC for less than 100BB with his nutjob image even on paired board I felt was slam dunk v-jam. Suspect AF from the little I saw. Be interested to see him perform half as well on any other stream that's not the same.

On what site and what was his screenname?
I've heard a few people say this but no evidence offered.

Dude the gig is up he 100% cheated, at this point it’s not did he or didn’t he, it’s how much did he steal.

Maybe, yes. But this is a streamed game and I think even the riskier cheaters might be weary of pulling this stunt when being recorded. Also seems likely you’d need the help to at least 1 more person which is another big obstacle. But unless you regularly play recorded games then you shouldn’t have much to worry about unless I’m missing something

drop the damn screenames or stop posting about how he crush online pls

His online names were Fleacer on Stars and yngmanN4quiki on UB. Most of the people defending him here are his buddies from pocketfives.

The 5/T game on LATB isn't exactly full of killers; let Mike go play in that for 3 months(and with no phone just in case) and see if he can do anything like he has at Stones.

The screen names... So apropo.

yngmanN4quiki

hehe

See, I don't agree. He might not need another person, even though it sort of seems like he has one. Well the only reason he is able to cheat is because of the livestream. I am sure some people are cheating in live poker some other way, but having access to hole cards isn't possible without the stream.

No one would of ever noticed he was looking at his phone so much if there wasn't allegations of cheating. If he didn't cheat like an idiot he never would of gotten caught. That 54,76, 95 hands are obvious.

I personally would worry a lot less about nosebleed games. First, I don't play them so clearly I wouldn't worry. Second, there aren't a lot of nosebleed randoms who sit in and only play those games and crush when they do. The low view count games where big winners are a few thousand dollars would be much easier/likelier to cheat.

I do wonder why no one has ever looked at his phone. I rarely think anyone is cheating me, but if someone is winning big pots off me and constantly looking between their legs during hands, why wouldn't someone have snuck up behind him and looked at what he is doing on his phone? Or just even made a comment jokingly. Is there any clips of someone walking up behind him? I'd be curious to see that.

Mike no variance Postle

he knows his cards are live, and he's gonna c/f ace high and queen high boards

he's also obviously an idiot

When theft reaches these levels and impacts this many people hard questions must be asked to everyone involved in running the game.

I'll start:
Many of the regular commentators consider themselves poker professionals and yet none of them were concerned with what they were witnessing on a weekly basis!? (one of these commentators having the hobby of repairing/restoring video games and parlor games which has to involve complex electronics and circuits (this is speculation so don't use their names )).

edit: these poker playing commentators many of which were regulars in the surrounding games of the streams

torelli is scum but all cheating isn't remotely the same

Mike stares longingly at his crotch preflop Postle.