So in your mind, either the investigation finds something, or there is a cover-up, or there is nothing to find?

No, what I am saying is that it might have been a legitimate investigation which didn't find conclusive evidence because the perpetrators didn't leave conclusive evidence behind. It's really not that complicated. Anyway, that is one of the options I am proposing. Stop pretending I said something I didn't.

Generally, your style of argument is highly disingenuous and I find it hard to believe you are arguing in anything resembling good faith. Almost all of your posts are attacking straw men.

Fold KK to 4bet when villain had AA but call 4bet shove with 54o when both oponnents had AKo,nothing to see here guys just live reads.

There is only one person in this thread who thinks the former, and there is pretty chance he is part of the latter group.

Can anyone provide verifiable evidence that Mike has ever lost on stream?

Finished a session down $1000? $500? $5?

Knowing and proving how he did it is extremely important. Seeing suspicious play (some of it is very suspicious) isn’t enough for the mob to go out on social media and ruin this guys personal and professional life.

I agree that someone should not have their life ruined by a mob over something where they are innocent. However, in this case, where the activity is so suspicious and the casino doesn't do anything to be transparent or explain...

I do not think there is much choice. Often times the poker community has had to police itself and in the past it has often been done by 2+2. Lot of big cheating scandals have been exposed on here.

This is super fishy, dude. Sorry, it aint looking good for ya boy...

I'm very curious how much the CA DOJ cares about relatively small time cases like this. I guess this situation will be a good litmus test. From a convenience perspective the CA Bureau of Gambling Control is located like 20 minutes from this card room so that is probably helpful in getting them to look into it. I know if I had ever played in this game I'd be calling them and filing a complaint. Even if I were interested in the civil aspect of the case, getting the criminal investigators to look into it would really make everybody's life easier (other than the cheaters).

currently going thru all of stones videos on youtube to figure out his winrate/total winnings and im seeing mike in the 1 seat a lot

Wow could not be more obvious imagine seeing the guy in the supermarket next week after playing hours and hours against him you would smash a watermelon over his head for sure

A good point well made.

This. I saw someone post on Twitter he's 30 for 30 in stones live cashes. Has anyone went through the streams to verify this? Has the guy lost once on stream? This is a very important piece of evidence

Wow this guy is literally boned. I don't feel bad for him for a second. While I agree the allegations are very serious; it looks like the evidence is overwhelming. If he's dumb enough to be this blatant about it then of course he's dumb enough to try it.

Upper management is likely not involved. Someone is signaling him from the booth imo. The PC's could also be infected with some type of phishing software.

Nothing will likely happen to him legally, and there will be no recourse for the players who were cheated. Public shaming is likely to be the only consequence.

If he plays again on stream I will be surprised. Sad situation.

Cheating is the worst thing for poker. Now it's happened in our best medium for reaching new players for in casino cash game action. Nothing could be worse for our image to the general donkey public. Absolutely repugnant.

Shout out to Papi for trying to keep the streets clean. Thank you Joey.

He sits a lot on the far ends, like seat 3 or whatever. In one stream he had a middle seat and then moved to the end. We all have seating preferences, but im guess ing he wants to keep his phone hard to see. You saying seat 1 makes me think you suspect this is dekaler related? It very likely isnt. I'm quite certain he's fed the hole cards to his phone, from the RFID room

pretty unfortunate seat preference for him

It is since the probability of him playing legit tends to zero since there are soooooo many hands which are completely ridic and there are no hands on the other side of the spectrum . I have a particle physics background and can give u an example. The Higgs Boson was not DEFINTELY found. The likelyhood of the observed data being caused by something other than the Higgs Boson was less than 1 in 3.5 Mill also called 5 sigma. That is the minimum requirement for an observation. THe guy cheating comes pretty close with all the observational evidence we have. You being involved in some type of way with Mike is also pretty likely since ur account is new and u try to confuse and take attention away from the actual observational facts.. The truth hurts buddy

If his kids get ostracized, his so loses their job, or worse he’s physically assaulted... and investigations say there’s nothing to go on... what’s your stance? That’s just price he and his loved ones pay for looking suspicious?

If he’s guilty then let that ****er burn. But until the authorities / investigations are over, leave him be and let professionals do their job. That’s all I’m getting at. The way it’s played out, either way, he’s going to have to pick up and move

Chicago Joey is the professional son

I agree, let the professionals do their job. So you know what like, ALL poker professionals who have looked at this say? Yeah, that he is cheating.

for the record, the Stones Live Poker youtube channel currently has 603 videos

this isn't a criminal court case. it's clear as day he's cheating. sorry not gonna feel bad if the cheater has to suffer consequences for cheating and stealing money.

Except none of that has happened. You're making up nightmare scenarios to try to stop people from doing due diligence.

add me in the video doug. bazam! this is where it starts to get a little dicey.

copy pasta from reddit, I've only seen one video of this guy on youtube from the 'stones live poker' stream but this reminded me of something that happened last year..

In the UK last year someone cheated many thousands out of the players in a casino in Glasgow with the help of the dealer who he was working with and an unknown device which could read the cards in the deck and tell him which seat would win the hand when cards were dealt via an earpiece.

Decks were changed with dealer changes, Dealer would come in with this rigged/chipped deck, then swap it back out at the end of his time at the table. In the end when players got suspicious and reported it, the dealer was prosecuted and the player went missing.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...paign=sharebar

Doug Polk is preparing a video as well, defo looking forward to his take on this.

For televised streams like Stones and LATB, the room should randomly assign seating positions and players should not be able to change seats. It should be like a one-table Sit n Go. I get the impression that Stones does not assign seats to players on stream. I would consider seat assignments part of your policy to ensuring game integrity, just like no smart phones or smart watches at the table.

Remember, this is a televised stream with RFID, the rules should be more stringent than the other cash tables that are not streamed and do not have RFID.