Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post) - Page 15 - Poker News

Alright Boys and Girls, CrotchGate is officially a thing.

So I went through everyone of those hands to see every time Mike referenced his pants to know what to do, and the results were..... EVERY SINGLE TIME! WITHOUT FAIL THIS MAN LOOKS DOWN AT HIS PHONE.

I think its important to note that during each Crotchspiration episode he is not even looking at his hole cards. Ive made a little collage to demonstrate what I mean, but you guys should really go back and watch Joey's hand examples in real time to see for yourselves.

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10-01-2019 , 10:33 AM

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.isolated

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Originally Posted by Halo_P1

https://twitter.com/DoItForTheLads/s...567552/photo/1

Posted this to Joey and Haralabob on Twitter.

I present to the jury, the means, but not necessarily the method.

This is the only time I could see where he was impromptly interrupted during "crotch thing episode" caught this frame in ironically one of the most shared suspected videos- he was very reluctant to being whisked away from the table by the hostess in that moment.

To me, another sign of something being amiss in that clip is the fact he just won a pot and is raking in chips but you'd think he has no functionality of his left arm because he never lifts it to the table to stack his chips.

1:51:05

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10-01-2019 , 10:34 AM

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kerr

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Originally Posted by Loctus

Do remember, if he's cheating it's (likely) from getting input from the RFID room or the company which set it up, at least an insider somehow. So it's not like he could simply take this cheating to another casino with larger games and win more.

The card room did an investigation and exonerated themselves (and Mike), but apparently decided to modify their rules re phone use. I understand this “review” happened sometime this year.

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10-01-2019 , 10:41 AM

#354

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

Spoke w/ Hill - he was upset over me banning him from the YT chat. We've talked more about the situation.

Didn't someone say they recently banned cell phones from the room because they thought Mike was using those on stream but that he has also played since the stream. I've noticed he has his keys on the table often as well. Looks like keys are another common reader/detector/device used in cheating from my research. They are on the table the entire time during the recent high stakes game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w4TguWyUH0

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Stream before

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The next time he played they still had phones and he is back in the lap

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So in the no-phone streams, his keys and stuff are always next to him on the table, but in all the phone-crotch streams (ie allll the streams where phone isnt banned), the keys are not on the table for him? Lol if so. Lol if so.

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10-01-2019 , 10:44 AM

#355

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Originally Posted by PerDoom

Think it's likely that there is a buzzer or something on him from someone in the graphics/live stream that tells him if he's beat or has a chance to win. Don't think it has to do with his phone but that is just my speculation.

How could he cheat......

If he’s guilty, it’s not via cellphone. I’ve watched all streams and he makes plays that he never looks at his phone.

If, and a big if, he is cheating, someone is working with him to provide signals like a 3rd base coach in baseball. Or he’s got some devise that vibrates. But I think that would be too risky for someone else to hear.

If Mikes is cheating, (again the disclaimer) there is a group of people involved. This doesn’t happen with just one or two guilty people. This goes layers deep and there are possibly other players that need to be looked in to.

Is there anyone else playing on stream that never loses a session?

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10-01-2019 , 10:51 AM

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ChicagoJoey

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Originally Posted by BamaWillBG

How could he cheat......

If he’s guilty, it’s not via cellphone. I’ve watched all streams and he makes plays that he never looks at his phone.

If, and a big if, he is cheating, someone is working with him to provide signals like a 3rd base coach in baseball. Or he’s got some devise that vibrates. But I think that would be too risky for someone else to hear.

If Mikes is cheating, (again the disclaimer) there is a group of people involved. This doesn’t happen with just one or two guilty people. This goes layers deep and there are possibly other players that need to be looked in to.

Is there anyone else playing on stream that never loses a session?

There appears to be different types of devices you can wear to receive information from someone else or something else outside of using the cellphone BUT the cellphone could be used to read signals as well.

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10-01-2019 , 10:54 AM

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AlwaysFolding

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What was that? I couldn't hear you, I didn't have my hearing aid in.

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10-01-2019 , 10:56 AM

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Ayayay...

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10-01-2019 , 11:04 AM

#359

Minimal23

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The chick in the commentary knows something is going on and the little ******s are trying to protect him. Someone should bury this guy.

The evidence is clear. Is not even clever cheating it's ******ed af.

Sorry for the anger but cheating gets me fired up.

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10-01-2019 , 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wj94

This seem kind of odd when taken into context with everything else. At 1:51:20 she tries to get him to go to the booth to explain a hand or something and he tells her to go away, like he doesn’t want to get up from the chair:

https://youtu.be/0vaF0kwjQhg

Go back a little more 1:50:45 and look at how he is holding his phone protecting the screen from being shown.

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Originally Posted by BamaWillBG

There is no way to say it's not phone, the camera isn't on him the whole time during any particular hand.

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10-01-2019 , 11:11 AM

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I know people who have played with Postle on the stream who insist that he cheated them.

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10-01-2019 , 11:13 AM

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There was a guy here in Scotland who got caught using an RFID hacker/device that read the cards and transmitted them via an earpiece. Could maybe be the same thing this guy is using? Although, as suggested already, it would require involvement from a third party. In the case in the link below the guy got a dealer in on it and he swapped the deck of cards every time this guy played.

https://www.pokertube.com/article/bi...ed-casino-scam

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10-01-2019 , 11:15 AM

#363

towery

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Originally Posted by ukbilly

Yeah I see your point, just seems like a lot of trouble for relatively little reward.

Well he has stolen 150k so far... that's more than some bankrobbers make off with.

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10-01-2019 , 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kerr

That was allegedly one of the hands where the RFID was playing up and Mike actually had 9x for trips. Allegedly.

yeah always the RFID haha. It's pretty obvious when all these hands are situations where if you didn't know your opponent's cards, you (ideally) would choose the highest EV option vs what you think your opponent's range is.

But if you knew their EXACT hand, the highest EV line often becomes much different than it would be assuming a game of incomplete information. That's the most damning part. I would play all these hands the same way Mike did if I knew what their opponents had exactly, but I would not play them that way if I did not.

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10-01-2019 , 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ejames209

But if you knew their EXACT hand, the highest EV line often becomes much different than it would be assuming a game of incomplete information. That's the most damning part. I would play all these hands the same way Mike did if I knew what their opponents had exactly, but I would not play them that way if I did not.

Exactly this. He's playing every hand as if he knows the EXACT holdings of the others, rather than any sort of reasonable range-construction really.

Every single big hand is just perfectly played against the exaccccct hand he is up vs....

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10-01-2019 , 11:22 AM

#366

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Originally Posted by ejames209

Can anyone find a hand where he makes a huge hero call OTR and is wrong? Surely there's at least 1

NO they can’t

They might be able to find a hand where he loses a couple hundred bucks but nothing big.

I’ve been watching all their streams the past 9 months. He’s never lost a session. He wins big. Really big most times.

I also think other people are involved. Mike can’t do this on his own.

I think other players should also be looked in to.

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10-01-2019 , 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Loctus

One. Hundred. Percent.

Pluribus often ran huge bluffs and ran into the nuts. Never seen it happen to Mike once. Never seen Mike make a huge hero call on the river and be wrong. It is crystal clear. He is finished.

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10-01-2019 , 11:30 AM

#368

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

Joey......

You know who I’m talking about.

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10-01-2019 , 11:38 AM

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Haven't seen this one as if there was any needed more "strange" hands.

youtu.be/4dHt8yhhXuk?t=10401

Firas limps UTG+1. THE GOAT raises to $35 w/ Js7s, Harlan calls, Cmill 3bets to $150 w/ 99, Apostle calls. 2 folds.

Flop Qd Ts 2h

Cmill cbets $150 into $355. THE GOAT calls

Turn 7d

Cmill bets $200 into $655, THE GOAT raises to $655. Cmill folds

PostleFTW

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10-01-2019 , 11:39 AM

#370

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Originally Posted by towery

Well he has stolen 150k so far... that's more than some bankrobbers make off with.

Yeah someone pointed out he was making 6 figures. I didn't think he would be making anywhere near that playing 5/5 but yeah that is a decent figure.

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10-01-2019 , 11:40 AM

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LOLOLOL - 41 minutes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0vaF0k...ature=youtu.be

Please think about the actions that took place to get to this point. Incredible! Float flop and turn in a bomb pot where he has $20 in. Every player in the world is folding the gut shot as there is nothing in the pot to win. Then the board pairs on the river he has 7 high and he shoves all in into two players. This is either the greatest played hand in the history of NLH orrrr. Or???

Also, his body language with the phone is as weird as anything I've seen.

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10-01-2019 , 11:45 AM

#372

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Matt Berkey is a sensitive douche who most likely started the rumors. If he’s invested in RFID then he must know how that data is transmitted from the sensors through the casinos protected network. This isn’t James Bond, hacking this especially in a 24x7 monitored environment is unlikely.

Stones investigated and found nothing... so it’s not faulty hardware or hacking. So you guys are basically accusing the stones live stream owner for being in on it. Again, unlikely considering what they have to lose.

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10-01-2019 , 11:49 AM

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The initial HHs I saw on twitter had me thinking people may be rushing to judgement but after watching the videos I can say imo he is extremely likely to be cheating.

The guy is literally looking at his phone (I think it's his phone?) or something in his lap so nobody else can see every single hand, he plays every hand perfectly given his opponents cards (but totally non standard obv), and he was involved in setting up the stream?

That is all circumstantial but it is extremely overwhelming. Hard to defend actually -- some of those hands are absurd and collectively they are damning.

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10-01-2019 , 11:50 AM

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He does not need to know specifically what his opponent has, he just needs to know what is the optimal action on any given street. That would be at most a few distinct codes or signals.