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12-15-2009 , 08:04 PM
They prolly want to unfreeze the funds so they can pay themselves.
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12-19-2009 , 10:51 PM
any updates?
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01-06-2010 , 03:14 PM
this needs a bump, I have nothing new, but this is too serious to be on page 10+
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01-06-2010 , 04:11 PM
Still can't understand how people play on Microthieves after this and Eurolinx incident.
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01-09-2010 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
this needs a bump, I have nothing new, but this is too serious to be on page 10+
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01-09-2010 , 12:20 PM
There's many days now that I forget that this even happened, and have to think hard about how much I really lost. I guess if a check comes in the mail, even if it's 10% of what I lost, it will be a surprise and a little bonus check. FU Micrograming!
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01-09-2010 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bvaughn
There's many days now that I forget that this even happened, and have to think hard about how much I really lost. I guess if a check comes in the mail, even if it's 10% of what I lost, it will be a surprise and a little bonus check. FU Micrograming!
Agree its actually nice to forget about this now. Its actually a really nice thought to realize that. Not counting on getting a penny back and feel that financially I have recovered from this.

Kinda sad though we've seen the demise of pittbull poker and eurolynx and still no one on twoplustwo outside of those affected seems to care. I see numerous posts on internet poker about people having troubles trying to get large money off skins on networks, and I feel like screaming "why the heck would you play for lots of money on an unverified site?"

But hey... I guess this is one of those things you have to experience for yourself before you see how horrible it is.
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01-09-2010 , 02:10 PM
I lost half my bankroll at the time to this, which wasn't much (about 1k I think). I immeadiately assumed I would never see any of it again and I'm glad I convinced myself that.
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01-09-2010 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hammer_time
I lost half my bankroll at the time to this, which wasn't much (about 1k I think). I immeadiately assumed I would never see any of it again and I'm glad I convinced myself that.
lost about 95% of my bankroll. Had to cash out my remaining stars for bills as I had made a large purchase just before and pay off some student loans I was left with 100k fpps to build up my roll.
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01-09-2010 , 09:18 PM
To those with my money who are probably monitoring this thread: Unlike the posters above me, I have not forgotten, nor do I have any intention to.

Yes, at some point you have to consider it a loss for your own financial planning purposes - you can't plan your life around the fact that you'll have it back by X date, at this point it would be a nice surprise. Because the alternative is setting yourself up for an unpleasant surprise if you were counting on it.

That said, should the result of the legal proceedings be unsatisfactory to me, ie I get a final notice that the money is gone, I can't just roll over and let them get away scott free with my money. They had a moral obligation to pay me since day 1, whatever some lawyer says will not make that go away.

If the scumbags read something like 'ahh feels good I've gotten over it' online (and they do - I remember making a fairly modest Wiki edit at some point about not having gotten any money back yet and it was gone within like 30sec), that's only gonna push them towards the 'screw them, it's not gonna hurt us' side. Well, I for one intend to fight back if I don't end up getting the money. It's a fair bit in my case, but above all it's the goddam principle.
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01-10-2010 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dale Dough
To those with my money who are probably monitoring this thread: Unlike the posters above me, I have not forgotten, nor do I have any intention to.

Yes, at some point you have to consider it a loss for your own financial planning purposes - you can't plan your life around the fact that you'll have it back by X date, at this point it would be a nice surprise. Because the alternative is setting yourself up for an unpleasant surprise if you were counting on it.

That said, should the result of the legal proceedings be unsatisfactory to me, ie I get a final notice that the money is gone, I can't just roll over and let them get away scott free with my money. They had a moral obligation to pay me since day 1, whatever some lawyer says will not make that go away.

If the scumbags read something like 'ahh feels good I've gotten over it' online (and they do - I remember making a fairly modest Wiki edit at some point about not having gotten any money back yet and it was gone within like 30sec), that's only gonna push them towards the 'screw them, it's not gonna hurt us' side. Well, I for one intend to fight back if I don't end up getting the money. It's a fair bit in my case, but above all it's the goddam principle.
Exactly!

Sure it's a good thing that you don't rely on the money anymore, that you fought your way back with 100.000 Fpp's, but there's no way im accepting getting screwed over, because that's exactly what these bastards are doing with us.
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01-20-2010 , 03:10 PM
Sad bump. I am a moderator on a russian forum and made a sticky, called "Problematic rooms/networks" with the Microgaming story being the first told. Also, there was a thread in the software forum, where people requested hand grabbing programs for Microgaming, i made a post linking to this thread. I suggest, that whenever/whereever is possible, everyone will do the same.

I am pretty sure i won't get my money back. But i don't want those thieves to prosper as well. People need to know their bankroll is in danger there.
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01-22-2010 , 06:58 PM
Microgaming is at the exhibition at Earls Court, London, next Tuesday to Thursday, in case anyone wants to stop by for a chat with them.

Entry is free, application form needs to be filled out at the entrance.
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01-27-2010 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by caruzo
Microgaming is at the exhibition at Earls Court, London, next Tuesday to Thursday, in case anyone wants to stop by for a chat with them.

Entry is free, application form needs to be filled out at the entrance.
Did anyone get any answers?
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01-27-2010 , 11:14 AM
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Yes.



So what? Full Tilt Poker is an equally hokey name. Or Bodog Poker - what IS a Bodog, exactly?
Such bad examples, those are brandable names and if you were marketing minded you would see that.

If 'Hot Pepper Poker' was marketed exactly as Full Tilt was it wouldn't be anywhere near as big.
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01-27-2010 , 11:54 AM
I still play at Ladbrokes on the Microgaming network. I've been running below AI-EV for 7 consecutive months and since it's Microgaming who runs the games i'm getting paranoid. I lost $2.3k in the Tusk fiasco and hold Microgaming liable. I've never run this bad since I started to play poker 2005 and the other day I withdrew most of my money on Ladbrokes, about $13k. I don't believe that online poker is rigged. The bad run is likely nothing but negative variance but I'm not trusting Microgaming and the withdrawal is a precaution action. I have holes to put the money in and will try to rebuild my BR and play lower stakes.
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01-27-2010 , 12:45 PM
Yes Harri, that'll surely gain you simpathy from everyone in this thread.
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01-27-2010 , 01:05 PM
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Yes Harri, that'll surely gain you simpathy from everyone in this thread.
I don't need your simpathy. I told my story so that everyone can see that Microgamings way to handle the Tusk affair also harms them economically. The major reason I withdrew my money is the companys history and the badwill they've earned.
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01-27-2010 , 01:22 PM
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I still play at Ladbrokes on the Microgaming network. I've been running below AI-EV for 7 consecutive months and since it's Microgaming who runs the games i'm getting paranoid. I lost $2.3k in the Tusk fiasco and hold Microgaming liable. I've never run this bad since I started to play poker 2005 and the other day I withdrew most of my money on Ladbrokes, about $13k. I don't believe that online poker is rigged. The bad run is likely nothing but negative variance but I'm not trusting Microgaming and the withdrawal is a precaution action. I have holes to put the money in and will try to rebuild my BR and play lower stakes.
Microgaming is shady as Fxxx as im sure u all no, i used to make a living on microgaming til the tusk fiasco and lucky for me i played on intertops so my funds were safe. But i did cashout asap when the Tusk bs went down and started sportbetting with my bankroll. I do miss microgaming and wish i could get back on ( they band americans) it was easy monies. I just wouldnt keep to much loot on there. Cashin out the 13.5k is good idea however if u make money there i wouldnt stop playing, its the softest site ive ever seen and would do anyting to play on there again, even tho the site is %100 out to rape there players at any cost
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01-27-2010 , 02:23 PM
why is this thread up again, new shadyness?

im curious, used to play on micro a lot before.
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01-28-2010 , 09:27 AM
just found out a nice aritcle and a nice song about microgaming.

check it out http://casinos.leadingcasino.com/gam...-still-silent/

LOL
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01-28-2010 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeezay
just found out a nice aritcle and a nice song about microgaming.

check it out http://casinos.leadingcasino.com/gam...-still-silent/

LOL
this needs more love, probably deserves an own thread
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01-28-2010 , 10:59 AM
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this needs more love, probably deserves an own thread
Done

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...gaming-696880/
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01-28-2010 , 11:17 AM
If poker players get together and build a strong organization, we could fight back against the crooks in the business and drag them to court. There are a lot of smart people with a lot of money playing poker and we could easily be a strong force to reckon with if we join in an union. The players in the AP and UB scandal got their money back or some of it at least, but that is not enough. The villains should be in jail and pay damages to the affected players. And skillful lawyers could drag out the Microgaming scandal in the spotlights. Why aren't we better organized?
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01-28-2010 , 12:00 PM
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Why aren't we better organized?
Because, as the current ub-situation clearly shows, there are a ton of players/pros more concerned with their short term profit than the overall health of the game of poker.

The ship has sailed as far as the poker community being able to band together to pose any sort of threat to the sites. The message sent to them is pretty clear: cheat us, steal from us and lie to us and we'll still give you our business and you'll still have pros lining up to sign with you.
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