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09-10-2015 , 12:48 PM
http://pokerfuse.com/news/live-and-o...es-coming-mpn/

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A new software feature that will allow players on MPN to change their screen names will be rolled out on all their skins in the coming weeks, starting on September 22. Players will be able to change their screen name once the change is implemented and again after they have played 1000 real money hands or once every 30 days, depending on which comes sooner.
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09-10-2015 , 12:58 PM
This is wonderful news
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09-10-2015 , 01:04 PM
Hope its implemented correctly - great news if so. Been some dumb things in the past with sites that allowed name changes, like notes carrying over on your client to the persons new nickname (due to a different identifier being identical) - kind of defeated the purpose.
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09-10-2015 , 01:15 PM
Good news. I believe this change will encourage MORE deposits from losing players as they can avoid the stigma/embarrassment/reminder of all their previous deposits/losses tied to a certain player name.

Would love to see PStars do this along with providing an in-house HUD "to help the playing experience" while banning ALL third-party software.
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09-10-2015 , 01:26 PM
Smart choice. Ending the tracking of losing players is super good for the games.

This seems > annon tables. It's fun to pick and choose new screen names. Recs will enjoy this.
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09-10-2015 , 02:43 PM
Seems like Microgaming has been lurking this site and made a good business decision to take on data mining issues and other tracking problems head on. Well played.
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09-10-2015 , 02:47 PM
This is a step in the right direction
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09-10-2015 , 02:50 PM
would this not make it way harder to catch bots?
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09-10-2015 , 03:13 PM
Gogo bots at MCG.
Been playing there for quite a while, and 100% certain there is quite a large number of quite good bots. No stopping for this thing now.
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09-10-2015 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
Good news. I believe this change will encourage MORE deposits from losing players as they can avoid the stigma/embarrassment/reminder of all their previous deposits/losses tied to a certain player name.

Would love to see PStars do this along with providing an in-house HUD "to help the playing experience" while banning ALL third-party software.
+1
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09-10-2015 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
Gogo bots at MCG.
Been playing there for quite a while, and 100% certain there is quite a large number of quite good bots. No stopping for this thing now.
+1 to this

I would be on board with the screen name changes if the sites were capable of policing the games themselves.

However it's been proved over and over that the biggest sites aren't capable. They rely on the grinders to police. This change makes it near impossible for players to catch these cheats.
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09-10-2015 , 04:06 PM
Bot maker paradise for sure
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09-10-2015 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
Gogo bots at MCG.
Been playing there for quite a while, and 100% certain there is quite a large number of quite good bots. No stopping for this thing now.
I suspected this as well, particularly on the anonymous tables from NL200+ but couldn't really say for sure obviously. Games were still fairly soft though compared to other sites.
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09-10-2015 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Siculamente
+1 to this

I would be on board with the screen name changes if the sites were capable of policing the games themselves.

However it's been proved over and over that the biggest sites aren't capable. They rely on the grinders to police. This change makes it near impossible for players to catch these cheats.
This.

I just few weeks ago reported a likely bot that wins at NL400+. They are investigating it now. If I'm right and this player is a bot I'm quite confident that I could recognize it again even though it would change a screen name. But there is almost no way I could recognize that or any bot within one thousand hands. This change also makes collusion a lot easier for the bots.

Overall, this really is a golden era for the bots:
- they are strong enough to beat even strong humans and also work so smartly that they are in general harder and harder to spot
- they games still run quite well even though the traffic is going down
- the sites are finally realizing what they need to do to create friendly environment for the rec players and the trend of making changes towards anonymity benefits also the bots
- sites have no monetary reasons to fight the bots (they rake a lot!)
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09-10-2015 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
Good news. I believe this change will encourage MORE deposits from losing players as they can avoid the stigma/embarrassment/reminder of all their previous deposits/losses tied to a certain player name.

Would love to see PStars do this along with providing an in-house HUD "to help the playing experience" while banning ALL third-party software.
If we get an in house hud only negative I can see is the fish will see there stats are loads different to the regs so tighten up, other then that con I think it's a great idea
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09-10-2015 , 05:21 PM
Most bots will be exploiting statistics on opponents much in the same way as a reg, except they can do it better as they need never miss a good exploit spot due to multitabling/ time per hand issue. These bots will now win at a lower rate.

Removing hand histories that can be easily added to databases (any downloadable form) would remove the brains for most bots whereas a human does not need to rely on a database to build this information.
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09-10-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
Hope its implemented correctly - great news if so. Been some dumb things in the past with sites that allowed name changes, like notes carrying over on your client to the persons new nickname (due to a different identifier being identical) - kind of defeated the purpose.
+1
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09-10-2015 , 06:12 PM
Its not only bots on this site but there is teams of colluders it will be nearly impossible to catch these now and as others have said this network dont catch anyone on their own.

I wouldnt be as pumped as some in here seem to be about these changes.
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09-10-2015 , 09:07 PM
Yeah there's so many problems with this. Going half assed makes the problems even worse imo as pointed out by other posters.

If they offer anonymous tables then give hand histories like bovada does and change table names/ numbers for every single client open to prevent collusion.

If they offer name changes then make huds / data mining impossible. I'd even go as far as all winning players have to wait 50k hands before being able to change names (so other grinders can still police/ report bots)
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09-10-2015 , 09:17 PM
Curious on what restrictions they might apply for this. Like if i wanted to change my SN can i change it to something somebody use to have but they change theirs but i want their SN can i do that? Be pretty nice for a winning player to take a losing players name.
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09-10-2015 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by a_r_K
would this not make it way harder to catch bots?
Harder for players to catch botters, colluders, and other cheaters, yes. No difference for the site's ability to do so.

This is the tradeoff with both screen name changes and anonymous tables.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 09-10-2015 at 10:41 PM. Reason: Clarified by adding "ability to do so"
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09-10-2015 , 10:24 PM
I see, Microgaming will become a paradise for cheaters. Who knows, they might run the bots themselves.
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09-10-2015 , 11:03 PM
If you change your screen name you are multi accounting scum because other poker ToS say it's illegal (ie: Poker Stars).

You're not supposed to be able to change your name so the good players can find the fish to make money and put food on the table.

Otherwise they might accidentally play against another pro and never realize it, and they could lose their entire bank roll and go broke (and maybe be forced stab some guy and then eat 1/2 a pound of their own poo).

Just saying.
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09-11-2015 , 03:00 AM
wait wtf is your point there? people MAing is people MAing. this isn't MAing since literally everybody is MAing.

does open up for impersonators, like lsuldurI
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09-11-2015 , 04:06 AM
shouldnt a site dont care much about datamining in term of $? it only gives an edge vs other regulars usually in most cases.
If someone is a recreational player you know that usually after seeing him play 2-5 hands and then he gets hunted... and most likely you will never see him again. Doesnt help him much to change his name, its easily to identify one after a few hands.. He just doesnt get instabumhunted when he sits down and can maybe play a few hands before the regs notice, weee as if the weaker player cares.. i would rather spend company resources on other stuff :\
Dont really see how name changes help recreational players. Its mainly just affecting regular vs regular play.

Imo getting rid of tableselection at all would be way way way better for recreationals. Everything Zoom Style and the easy seat random table draw, no more tableselection, you click I want to play 50NL and get drawn to a random table, over and out. If you dont like the table, well bad luck.
Who cares about namechange only botters benefit the most there..

Same as anonymous tables. Recreationals imo dont think like i want to be anonymous i told my recreational friend he can play anonymous too and he was like wtf online poker is already soo anonymous, thats not fun at all, i want to know the person im playing against, they dont want to play anonymous robots, instead they would rather enjoy playing against someone they remember with a fun avatar or something or maybe in the future you are required a picture of yourself ahaha well just i think most rec dont want to play against anonymous robot regulars, the want to have some fun, yell at the player etc etc
Being anonymous is more like "strange" for a rec player, i mean playing anonymous why?? they are already sceptical about internet poker in generel so why is there even a need to play anonym poker, are there cheaters? This was more the thing my friend was thinking when i told him..

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