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10-31-2018 , 05:14 AM
lol - good answer
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10-31-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wait
A stronger fighter should set up a fake argument with a girl near this guy and beat his ass.
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Originally Posted by epcfast
Why?
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Originally Posted by wait
Would make a better thread
This exchange also made it better. At least for a little while, anyway.
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11-01-2018 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Until someone tries this move on a guy, and then gets immediately jumped by his 5 "bros" that are nearby that he never saw. Good move on stopping a d-bag, but after watching this again, the whole "I had my hooks in..." dialogue was overkill, but who am I to deny his "Octagon Moment" and post fight celebration speech.
Right now, you’re the guy that he just called out for his next bout, after Joe Rogan put the mic in his face for the HH review lol

But seriously, if this wasn’t a thread in NVG about a guy choking out a vile POS in a Strip casino, I’d be surprised at the level of negativity directed towards MH. It’s def a good thing most people in society wouldn’t mimic his actions, bc most people might make it worse. I was raised a pacifist and would have frozen before calling security. Even capable people have no obligation to act.

If he saved a victim from serious further harm, that’s brave. If he considered the consequences and took the line that matched up w his values, then it doesn’t seem foolish. He was basking in the glory. It’s not surprising, given the flood of adrenaline immediately before and during any physical encounter, which hasn’t yet worn off. The positive reinforcement from both the casino and his peers would reinforce his perception that the decision was righteous.

The unsettling aspect is that bc this girl might be getting gorilla pimped, her situation could get much worse. Still, MH only played one hand and he played it optimally. She coupd seek help from the police or other DV support hopefully.

I’d never heard of MH before today and now we have. Maybe he could leverage this into something positive like a match for a DV charity, or something quirky like a poker/fighting HU mix. OP could promote it but prob have to offer big odds and to show/to win purse cuz he’s a pretty big dude. For the Venetian thing I think he at least deserves a “gg”. 2p2 can be a hard crowd to please
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11-01-2018 , 07:11 AM
im not impressed by bros who can lock up a RNC when nobody is looking/expecting it
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11-01-2018 , 12:39 PM
But the hooks were in bro....
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11-01-2018 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cardsharkk04
There seem to be better ways to deescalate situations like this, usually like you know verbally confronting the guy first, which generally works, especially in a public setting.

It seems like someone with high level martial arts skills should only be using them as a last resort, which doesn't appear like it was the case here. Also, what if Michael cold cocked the guy in the head and KO'ed him instead? That also deescalates the situation with no risk to himself. Is that still fine?

I mean I'm not upset a scumbag POS got choked out, but calling him a hero? I dunno. If some normal random dude verbally confronts the perp and the perp backs off and chills out is he a hero also?
I would not be comfortable to "talk it out" with a guy that knocks a girl out in front of a room full of people, that does not end well. It would likely just escalate the situation and make the guy even more pissed off.

I have acted the same way in a very similar situation and it takes split seconds to actually act, make a decision and do it.

And yes, in 2018 with all the snowflakes around it is pretty OK to say he is a hero, I doubt everyone would have done the same. I have seen people just put their head down or look in a different direction trying to ignore it.
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11-01-2018 , 01:18 PM
he is a saint, lock this **** up.
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11-01-2018 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
Right now, you’re the guy that he just called out for his next bout, after Joe Rogan put the mic in his face for the HH review lol

But seriously, if this wasn’t a thread in NVG about a guy choking out a vile POS in a Strip casino, I’d be surprised at the level of negativity directed towards MH. It’s def a good thing most people in society wouldn’t mimic his actions, bc most people might make it worse. I was raised a pacifist and would have frozen before calling security. Even capable people have no obligation to act.

If he saved a victim from serious further harm, that’s brave. If he considered the consequences and took the line that matched up w his values, then it doesn’t seem foolish. He was basking in the glory. It’s not surprising, given the flood of adrenaline immediately before and during any physical encounter, which hasn’t yet worn off. The positive reinforcement from both the casino and his peers would reinforce his perception that the decision was righteous.

The unsettling aspect is that bc this girl might be getting gorilla pimped, her situation could get much worse. Still, MH only played one hand and he played it optimally. She coupd seek help from the police or other DV support hopefully.

I’d never heard of MH before today and now we have. Maybe he could leverage this into something positive like a match for a DV charity, or something quirky like a poker/fighting HU mix. OP could promote it but prob have to offer big odds and to show/to win purse cuz he’s a pretty big dude. For the Venetian thing I think he at least deserves a “gg”. 2p2 can be a hard crowd to please
Gotta say, this is an excellent post.

Massive respect to Haag for putting a random woman beating dbag in his place. I would love to see the security cam footage of the entire incident but the chances of that are extremely slim.
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11-01-2018 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
oh really? And then he runs into someone who doesn't care and finds him too self priviledged to act like that deciding whats right or not and taking on himslef the jury and the punisher role and things end very sadly, i have seen it many times, "good" guys full of themselves end up in coffin because they push it to extremes.
You've seen this many times? I can't even imagine it. You must live a life, bro.
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11-01-2018 , 04:11 PM
FWIW, I'd like to think I"d intervene with someone literally hitting or beating up a woman, and I don't have any MMA chokeout skills at all. I might end up taking a beating myself. I've never actually done it however.

Terrible anecdote (you can ignore this): Once I intervened when a guy was arguing with a woman and was physically preventing her from leaving, though it never got physical and I wasn't in any danger really if it did. I subsequently learned he was preventing her from seeing her narcotics dealer. Bad move on my part given that information.
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11-02-2018 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
Terrible anecdote (you can ignore this): Once I intervened when a guy was arguing with a woman and was physically preventing her from leaving, though it never got physical and I wasn't in any danger really if it did. I subsequently learned he was preventing her from seeing her narcotics dealer. Bad move on my part given that information.
Dude, you're being results-oriented.
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11-02-2018 , 03:23 AM
I stopped some dumbass from beating a chick. I didn't even like the chick, I thought she was a *****. Still, I known her for years, partied with her a lot and she was young and dating some guy. We were partying at a friends house drinking and eventually got down to a few of us. I saw the dude smack the dumb chick and I intervened. Funny little fight, I pushed him and then he punched my in my glasses and the fun times ensued. I blacked out, wrestled his dumb ass for a bit and next thing I remembered I was pushing him out the front door. He didn't like it much so he screamed like a banshee while dawn broke and the cops came. I told them I'd like to press charges for my broken glasses, they pushed me off to tell me to **** off and I obliged. Dude apparently just got dropped off at the next neighborhood. My left middle finger was semi dislocated from the fight.


A few years later chick told me about how she was a dope head and some dope head boyfriend of her's hung himself in a shed. She tried to do the same but failed. She was pregnant at this time.


Happily ever after.............



Degens are funny My middle finger still aint the same.
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11-02-2018 , 06:49 AM
lol heroes itt

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Funny little fight, I pushed him and then he punched my
see this is why most of you guys taking this position are lame and it's not smart to get involved in stuff like this. real fights aren't like the movies where there's a natural buildup and two people get in each others faces and one pushes the other and the other pushes back and then a punch is thrown.

in the real world, people get suckerpunched and laid out a lot more often
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11-02-2018 , 10:32 AM
we were on a motorcycle run one time years ago and some broken down old biker, full member 3 patch club, was slapping a young girl around because she wouldn't sell herself to the migrant farm workers in the bar to get him some money. I heard her say '...I ain't f**king no Mexicans...' and her started hitting her. Probably not the first time or the last. She looked to be about 17 years old, blond, blue eyes.

I told him if he so much as raised his hand to her again I would beat his ass and meant it. He quickly sized me up and had to back down in front of the whole bar wearing his colors, pretty much sure he couldn't take me one on one. I wrestled in High School and college and boxed some so I was in my prime, in shape (ran sub-5 minute miles), and knew how to fight.

The next night at the Yuma fair grounds he showed up with 15-20 of his 'brothers' looking to take me for a ride. I had no doubt they were going to beat/shoot/stab me half to death or all the way to death. I hid under the bleachers knowing there was no way to win this and they eventually left.

Dumb move on my part. Being smacked around is part of the game being a bikers old lady and they know it.
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11-02-2018 , 10:45 AM
From liveleak:

"Woman knocks out bouncer over mistaken butt grab
A bouncer who was mistakenly attacked from behind by a woman from upstate New York who thought he grabbed her butt was knocked unconscious almost immediately

Surveillance video from inside Five1Eight nightclub in Plattsburgh shows Kierah Lagrave, 22, putting the bouncer in a chokehold and forcefully yanking his neck from behind. The man’s arms then remain at his side until he’s taken to the ground by the 125-pound pugilist who is now facing a felony charge of second-degree strangulation."
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=98sfA_1541100723

I guess the locks were in.
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11-02-2018 , 10:50 AM
had her hooks in bro
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11-02-2018 , 10:59 AM
RNC+hooks<vulcan nerve pinch
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11-03-2018 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
I stopped some dumbass from beating a chick. I didn't even like the chick, I thought she was a *****. Still, I known her for years, partied with her a lot and she was young and dating some guy. We were partying at a friends house drinking and eventually got down to a few of us. I saw the dude smack the dumb chick and I intervened. Funny little fight, I pushed him and then he punched my in my glasses and the fun times ensued. I blacked out, wrestled his dumb ass for a bit and next thing I remembered I was pushing him out the front door. He didn't like it much so he screamed like a banshee while dawn broke and the cops came. I told them I'd like to press charges for my broken glasses, they pushed me off to tell me to **** off and I obliged. Dude apparently just got dropped off at the next neighborhood. My left middle finger was semi dislocated from the fight.


A few years later chick told me about how she was a dope head and some dope head boyfriend of her's hung himself in a shed. She tried to do the same but failed. She was pregnant at this time.


Happily ever after.............



Degens are funny My middle finger still aint the same.
This sounds like a Hold Steady song
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