Mike are you still scamming as this thread continues on and any sort of a decent reputation you had is completely gone to ****??

[QUOTE=pninwin;43770843]zero chance of recovery here. i've been to GA and anyone who tells their narrative in a I-can't-believe-how-screwed-up-my-life-is story without intense self-loathing and a real horror at what they have done to OTHER PEOPLE has no chance of personal change. the guys i saw who seemed to have made radical personal change did so to make amends to wives, parents, children, etc and not because they were hoping to "straighten things out"

Yeah, pretty lame, I'm quoting myself. This was my assessment a month ago after reading Mike's initial posts. As one of the black-hatted "haters" who seems to be thwarting his recovery efforts I'd just like to say to those who are invested in his success that right now Mike's posts lay bare a character that seems shaped exclusively by spite and self-pity. This is THE issue, everything else (finding a job,getting to GA meetings regularly) is secondary.

YES

NO

Mike just stop.

Whatever it is about you that needs to be fixed, its hard to believe that your continued involvement ITT is helping you, and more likely is having the opposite effect.

forget about 2+2 and stop reading this thread or anything else on 2+2.

If you don't have the discipline for even that, then doubt there is much hope for you.

I guess the rubberneckers ITT driving by will continue to gawk at the train wreck of your current situation, and you will stand by the side of the road providing more fodder for their personal enjoyment.

Just released footage of the cops standing around while Big E was dying on the ground in Staten Island. Puts everything into perspective:

RIP Big E

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=721222701276531

You are right - not worth posting anymore when it's the same few guys getting a hard on off of my situation and feeling better about themselves by criticizing me in every facet.

Sure sounds sociopathic to me. Doesn't care about anyone but himself, thinks its all about him. Mike thinks that posters like me hopes he fails. That's not the case at all, I wish him the best of luck with his gambling addiction. That addiction is far secondary to what the real issue is though, and that's his con. I hope he is caught and prosecuted again. Because Borovetz, you are not a victim, your victims are. You are preying on a class of people most deserving of society's protection, those who would give selflessly to others in a time of need. I look at your conning, which you have not denied that you are continuing, or would continue when you exhaust your funds, as akin to scamming the elderly, something that needs to be stopped.

As an interesting sidenote, I got to reading the scambook entries on Borovetz, they're an interesting read. At least one of those scammed wrote about how he couldn't track down Borovetz after loaning him money at an airport, but he managed to track down his father, and his father indicated to him that Borovetz was frequently doing this and had been for years, and that the father would occasionally get contacted. You've got to feel bad for the man who presumably tried to do the best he could, raised a son, presumably helped him through college, and now has to deal with phone calls from people who his son has scammed. But Borovetz, it's all about you and not the people that you've hurt.

Hey everyone, look over there! Horrible things are happening over there! Don't look at me because I'm way less horrible then what's happening over there!


By the way Borovetz, the fact that you are using the death of your supposed friend as an attempt to distract attention from yourself in this thread is disgusting and about par for the course.

I just can't believe people actually thought some rando they met at the airport was going to send the money they gave him back. Just from the OP this sounds like the most obvious "scam" ever.

Also, Mike, did you ever explain why you used your real name when doing this all these years?

PSU needs to stop posting and is ignoring friends and critics who have suggested he stop posting. Maybe a temp-ban since he can't stop himself.

Yeah, but people fall for scams constantly. Just because you're a little more worldy by virtue in part of the fact that you're a poker player and participate in poker forums, or have your particular life experiences whatever they may be does not mean that others do. In my experience there are two main types of people who fall for scams, those who are greedy and fall for it because of the promise of quick money, or those who are just naïve. There are a lot of people out there who really are just trusting, and who are willing to help out what they perceive to be a stranger in need. In my personal opinion, the tendency to at least try to help out a stranger in need is innate in most people. I think it probably evolved because it's +ev towards the survival of the species. The fact that Mike is preying on this, the best of human traits, and the best of people is what makes his scam particularly insidious. The fact that in 2700 posts he has still utterly failed to recognize why people like me think its disgusting is evidence of sociopathy.

That is what I thought too.

Curly sideburns?

Since he never answered me, Im going to assume that he is indeed still scamming away at airports.

Or maybe I've been really, really busy this week.

Or maybe I feel there's really nothing left to be said. I gave my unsolicited advice (or my "holier than thou diatribes" as you call them), and even repeated it in my PMs. He's ignored it, and continues to demonstrate that his reputation, image, and ego are more important to him than fixing his life. So be it. That's his choice, and as I've pointed out repeatedly, the only one who can change things in his life is him. If his choice is to continue to sound like a petulant adolescent on a gambling forum, then he will have to bear the consequences of that choice, not me.

If there's even a hint of him scamming another user on this site he'll be permabanned and no one will shed a tear, but it's not my place as a moderator to force him to leave the site (even though I think it would be doing him a favor to do so), or force everyone here to stop posting (which would allow the thread to die and him, maybe, to do something more constructive with his time).

And maybe I don't really enjoy beating my head against a brick wall. Or arguing with strangers over the tiny details of another strangers life. Okay, that's a lie, but I'm bored with this particular drama and at this point legitimately don't really give a **** what he does.

God you disgust me. You are so pathetic it's unreal. Like it makes my stomach churn just reading your dumb ass posts.

You realize you are ******ed right? Berating dealers is like yelling at a cashier for milk prices being too high

How dumb do you have to be to actually be superstitious

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I can't wait to hear about your next big score and subsequent pit bankruptcy.

You're despair is well earned

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Pretty obvious 2+2 wont end this thread due to the amount of views and posts. This thread is bringing in advertising revenue with clicks throughs because a person that is sick is playing the forum; have to say well played Mason your ad revenue must be doing well from this. You should pay PSU to keep it going
Mason the new Jerry Springer of Poker

I'm confident that this thread has generated some discussion in the mod forum and I am also confident that the decision to re-open the thread wasn't based upon whatever miniscule ad revenue it's added to the forum. I'mm not saying I necessarily agree with the thread being open and I definitely disagree with mike not being banned, but the fact that he isn't banned and the thread is open isn't based upon a monetary decision.

I think that many of us conclude that this story is not over yet. I went back and re-read the OP that started it, and I think that it was an accurate and fair reporting of what happened in the airport that morning. The best available public record of what Michael Borovetz has done is found in this thread. It might as well continue, for better or worse. If it is closed, they will probably need to reopen it again anyway.

Well, that about sums it up!

i'm sorry you felt you had to share such a negative reaction to my post.

Haven't read the entire thread yet, but has Mike gotten a grill from NVG yet?

I would think about and question my behavior at the poker table, monitor it for actions which have led people to think and write that kind of thing, and make changes as needed.

I've had people say things over the years about the way I've behaved on occasion away from the table (though thankfully the word 'worst' didn't come up) and that's what I did, so I'd try to do the same.

If only you were able to get that 500k, everything would change...

How can you not see that no amount of money will change your situation because it will all be gone within days until you realize you need to stop ****** gambling?



I understand this post was like a month ago but had to respond to it, JFC

This ^^^ no matter how much he wins he won't pay back who he scammed and it'll be gone within days in the pits