With 3hrs left of late reg and 370 entries so far, it looks like the GG 25k will have no problem hitting the 10MM guarantee

The SCOOP 10k ME currently has 440ish entries on Stars, to put it into perspective

The 10k PLO on GG has 130 entries so far, and the 10k PLO on stars has 76

+1

I tried it at tables with 3 active players and 3 open seats (so when a spot sits 2 to click on)
i wish i got 5/100

stars cant be bothered though it seems, too busy with tempest and slots

having a solid lobbygame is extremely important.

+1

I know for a fact people are scripting at high stakes because I know which software is being used and I was offered the same product, but obviously denied.

Now, who is scripting we can't say for sure because we don't have evidence, but it seems pretty obvious when looking at the level of success some players seem to be having, even during peak times when about 20 players must be hunting those last 2-3 open spots.

Well all my students playing 200 have no problem with clicking into seats - I'm not sure what you're doing wrong but it's definitely something.

Again, there are maybe 500 total regs playing 200nl+ on Stars I guess? For Stars to automatically detect scripts is so so trivial when they only have to look at 500 guys. I myself regularly click into 1k games, I have friends who regularly click into 5k games, I have multiple students that click into 200 games every day from all around the world. If there was any volume of scripters this would not be possible. I won't derail thread anymore, but this is my two cents on the matter.

mma is generally a tool but I think he’s right when he says some players are scripting still on stars

click/success ratio cannot be more than 10% if human

also depends on your delay fwiw, people close to stars servers, better internet will get seats more often

Didn't some hs regs move closer to the isle of main to have better connection to the PS servers would explain the speed.

I dont think people using scripts are very likely. PlasticElephant gave some good reasons why that is the case.

I've heard about one well known plo regular that was banned for using script on stars. I would imagine that if stars actually caught one guy using one specific program they would probably catch them all at the same time for using this same software.

I also think people underestimate how good/bad reflexes , high awareness and whatever else that makes some people click faster.

i agree with the entire logic.. but people multisiting/4+tabling and still having <1 seconds reflexes on all tables (not just clicking a seat at the table but +1/+2 seat) is a level of high awareness/speed i wouldnt expect from even the most skilled human being

you wouldnt be surprised that im not a hs reg though but when i watch it i do start to get skeptic

and although i agree with the logic that stars 'should' be able to catch scripters, my faith in stars support has declined tremendously over the last year(s)

stars is definitely on the decline, whereas party, ggpoker and acr seem to be on the rise, especially ggpoker

Stars game integrity is still way ahead of everywhere else.

One more thing to consider is your human bias in wanting to see patterns/ believe that the same guys always get the seats.

acr banned scripts a month or so ago, you can feel the difference, stars today feels worse than acr a month ago.

this is more an anecdote not evidence.

mma has spotless reputation, why would he suddenly make something up?

stars not catching cheaters is not evidence of anything either, took them years to catch stambolov and oborra.

ZarubaNT must have the reflexs/awareness of a god then. The man be's at every table with the spot despite almost never opensitting.

Not to mention he has been drunk(or so they have been saying in the chat ) Having 0 affect on his godlike clicking ability. What a guy

If Negreanu jumped ship from Stars to GG that probably speaks volumes about who had the bigger budget for him.

at low to midstakes they click fast too, not just to sit down but also to join the waiting list. This one only took about 5 seconds to get 22 on them..

apparently players in and close to russia can click faster (and on every table)

You can buy the godlike clicking ability in the secret shop

doesn't ggpoker have some ridiculous rake structure?

True, but scripting is still an aspect they fail to handle... There are 5-10 accs using scripts on PLO small-midstakes (thats been reported more than once).

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 3 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

FourSixFour (BU): $6,712.67 (134 bb)
oSpiel888 (SB): $7,919.75 (158 bb)
BezDelnik2 (BB): $5,319.42 (106 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($75)
FourSixFour (BU) raises to $132, oSpiel888 (SB) 3-bets to $600, 1 fold, FourSixFour (BU) calls $468

Flop: ($1,250) 5 5 4 (2 players)
oSpiel888 (SB) bets $600, FourSixFour (BU) calls $600

Turn: ($2,450) 6 (2 players)
oSpiel888 (SB) bets $1,248.48, FourSixFour (BU) calls $1,248.48

River: ($4,946.96) K (2 players)
oSpiel888 (SB) checks, FourSixFour (BU) bets $4,264.19 (all-in), oSpiel888 (SB) calls $4,264.19

Total pot: $13,475.34 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
FourSixFour (BU) shows J 8 (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 31%, River: 100%)

oSpiel888 (SB) shows 8 K (two pair, Kings and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 52%, Turn: 69%, River: 0%)

FourSixFour (BU) wins $13,473.34

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 3 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

FourSixFour (BU): $7,516.85 (75 bb)
oSpiel888 (SB): $13,703.98 (137 bb)
MMAsherdog (BB): $4,000.00 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
1 fold, oSpiel888 (SB) raises to $250, MMAsherdog (BB) 3-bets to $750, oSpiel888 (SB) calls $500

Flop: ($1,500) A 4 J (2 players)
oSpiel888 (SB) checks, MMAsherdog (BB) bets $374, oSpiel888 (SB) calls $374

Turn: ($2,248) Q (2 players)
oSpiel888 (SB) checks, MMAsherdog (BB) bets $673.50, oSpiel888 (SB) calls $673.50

River: ($3,595) 5 (2 players)
oSpiel888 (SB) checks, MMAsherdog (BB) bets $2,202.50 (all-in), oSpiel888 (SB) calls $2,202.50

Total pot: $8,000 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
MMAsherdog (BB) shows T T (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

oSpiel888 (SB) shows 4 A (two pair, Aces and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

oSpiel888 (SB) wins $7,997

If Stars doesn't allow scripts - and people are using scripts - why isn't anything done about it??

I don't understand how a company wouldn't have someone dedicated to cash games and be able to fix easy issues like this.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 6 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Stefan11222 (UTG): $10365.30 (104 bb)
ZarubaNT (MP): $10000 (100 bb)
MunEZ_StaRR (CO): $13272.22 (133 bb)
oSpiel888 (BU): $14730.47 (147 bb)
matu756 (SB): $10136.10 (101 bb)
LiveTogether (BB): $10069.97 (101 bb)

Pre Flop: ($150)
1 fold, ZarubaNT (MP) raises to $225, MunEZ_StaRR (CO) calls $225, oSpiel888 (BU) 3-bets to $852, 2 folds, ZarubaNT (MP) 4-bets to $2350, 1 fold, oSpiel888 (BU) calls $1498

Flop: ($5075) Q 4 4 (2 players)
ZarubaNT (MP) checks, oSpiel888 (BU) bets $861.90, ZarubaNT (MP) calls $861.90

Turn: ($6798.80) Q (2 players)
ZarubaNT (MP) bets $1698.45, oSpiel888 (BU) calls $1698.45

River: ($10195.70) 9 (2 players)
ZarubaNT (MP) checks, oSpiel888 (BU) bets $9820.12 (all-in), ZarubaNT (MP) calls $5089.65 (all-in)

Total pot: $20375 (Rake: $5)

Showdown:
oSpiel888 (BU) shows 5 A (two pair, Queens and Fours)
(Equity - pre: 33%, flop: 18%, turn: 9%, river: 0%)

ZarubaNT (MP) shows T T (two pair, Queens and Tens)
(Equity - pre: 67%, flop: 82%, turn: 91%, river: 100%)

ZarubaNT (MP) wins $20370