It's not okay to direct racial slurs at him regardless of what he puts his location as on cardplayer.com you imbeciles.

Hold on there white knight, nobody said it was.

If you saw my initial quote, I stated that I believe that saying that racial slur was a no no. So aside from anything else, what Kelvis posited was my point still. And if you cannot see that, well then whatever.

Bottom line is if this whole ordeal were front page news in a major newspaper where Hawkins was portrayed as the "victim" in the exchange, he would be all the happier right now. He WANTS to 1. get a rise from other people and 2. make them out the loser of the exchange emotionally or monetarily (via in-game) or at worst kicked out of the game and 3. make a big show of it if at all possible. Obviously people continue to do things that work until they don't. When he gets a taste of his own medicine is biggest mystery here.

Here is a legit prediction

No matter what you think of the comments in ITT

just wait till the motherload of all racial based poker threads happen
when......

Maurice gets DQ'd from a tourney for his table talk and then claims
it was discrimination.

Yes. Maybe that is his "backup" plan so he still comes out the "winner" in the end. Life is one big game of chess (sorry not necessarily poker), isn't it?

This....

The guy sounds like he attracts such behavior. It's on him. Karma has a big ole dick and will **** you with no lube. Act like a dick and people will throw everything they can at you to hurt you.


There are real victims out in the world, he doesn't sound like one of them.

I think this is very well put, and applies also to William Kassouf.

Yes they should.

Yes it is because they're both the same skin colour.

The floor generally responds under the assumption one or more players has simply lost their cool and they attempt to resolve the situation without penalties in my experience.

Which I believe to be the correct approach 95%+ of the time. The problem is you have some players who are intentionally trying to irritate other players and take advantage of the latitude the floor has provided.

When did Dutch become reputable on NVG? Was it after he apologized to Mason and paid him off?

It's not *that* long since Dutch was considered about as reputable as Howard Lederer and Jesus Ferguson.

Man im so upset hearing all these racial slurs im just wanna sit and cry and let all these negative feelings out u guys. Anyone wanna join me in a sob session?

Even less reputable than team FTP given his health troubles. Now he runs the premier recreational poker community on Twitch, which should be acknowledged for the tremendous accomplishment that it is.

Dutch’s angling around 2p2s domain name was a far cry from FTP screwing over thousands of players - not remotely comparable.

Greg Raymer says it’s very hard for TDS to do anything about some players awful behavior ..... but IMO you have to try because this is SERIOUSLY hurting the game and scaring new players away, and you try by writing a new rule.

I’ll give it a try, here goes:

“It shall be a violation of the rules for a player to verbally abuse or antagonize any opponent. If a player in the discretion of the tournament director violates this rule, he/sheshall be given a warning for the first violation, a one round penalty for the second, and a disqualification for the third”

No more provoking opponents with verbal abuse. Or maybe there’s already a rule like this and it just isn’t being used properly.

And of course, any racial slurs directed at an opponent means DQ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_...ot_controversy

I had forgotten about that and was commenting on what he had apologized to Mason for, which of course wasn’t at the same level. I stand corrected.

how does the situation change if someone says " whats up n**** " to a white guy?

You assuming he will scream discrimination simply because he is black is the definition of prejudice.

Crying never solved anything, you have to take action, like Maurice did.

Sorry to break it to you but this isnt about white men.

I'm shocked.



Here we go. Also, by "Jesus himself", did you mean Ferguson, or the deity?

Pretty sure he meant Chris "Jesus" Ferguson

A man of faith wouldn't be stupid enough to say Jesus Christ would disrespect people.

Well, he might be that stupid if he also thinks that suggesting that our current president uses racist slurs in private is somehow a point in his favor.

heh. i didnt acknowledge the politics because thats against NVG rules and i just got back from a 1 day temp ban

But it wouldn't be against the rules if you connected talking about good ole Trump with his prior failures with 4 bankrupted casinos right? That is still related to the forum so then you can be safe and not banned, no?