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Maurice Hawkins Told "Shut Up, N***er" At WSOP Event? Maurice Hawkins Told "Shut Up, N***er" At WSOP Event?

07-07-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickItBak
Matt Glantz tweeted that the guy has been DQ'd.

I disagree with a DQ in a vacuum. It's ridiculously ****ty to call someone that, but it's not quite the same as some of the other DQable offenses.

Maurice is absolutely a horrible person to have in the game of poker, and it's ironic that someone else is being DQ'd for using inappropriate language with him because he's been trying to attack people with words and shoot angles for years. He shouldn't be allowed to play in the WSOP at all very likely.

All that being said, there should absolutely be consequences for saying **** like that to him, I just don't think that a DQ is warranted (unless it wasn't an isolated incident).
+1, had Maurice at my table during the Monster Stack this year. He was disrecptpful toward several players and dealers. Bad attitude, talking to other players who clearly didn't want to hear from him, and he was eating stinky sushi at table. Overall, one of the least pleasant players to have a table. Guess that is his "thing" getting under peoples skin.
07-07-2018 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by coolstorytho
I fear that many people here underestimate how many foreigners have little understanding how inappropriate the word is, and think it is on par as the f-word.
Other countries should probably add that to their travel advisory for tourists traveling to the US.

Next to the warning about what not to do if you don't want to get shot by a cop at a traffic stop or by a homeowner 'standing his ground' it could read 'don't use the N word if you don't want to be DQed from a poker tournament'.
07-07-2018 , 11:23 AM
For me is always interesting why black people can say ******s whenever they want, but all other cant? Like if i sign a rap song and said that ***** or something similar that is in the song, and black man walk to me, should he be feeling offended - definitely not. Afaik from Mexico to Argentina is ok to say negro, witch means black in spanish. Its interesting why there is way, way more racism in USA compared to Brazil? In most part of East Europe is ok to say ******, because this is not a bad world, it is just a black persen. Here we have very little black people because we did not have colonized african country. Even most of that South East Europe was under Otoman rule, so in general poor people were "slaves" for around 5 centuries.

Last edited by mecantplay; 07-07-2018 at 11:24 AM. Reason: That said it is not ok to use "banned" word in USA
07-07-2018 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
i just got mad one time on the east coast years ago when losing heavily at BJ, and once in a now closed casino in north las vegas. i say a lot of funny stuff when im mad, most of which i dont mean literally.

i do think people take words way too seriously nowdays and i hope voting for Trump will end this big liberal PC takeover in all the businesses across the country. its destroying this country and our freedoms and i bet u both Jesus himself and our president use the word too alone in private.
1) Using the N-word is funny.
2) Not being able to use the N-word is destroying the Country. Not being able to use the N-word infringes on personal freedom.
3)"My Jesus is a Racist Prick who disrespects Black people. He wouldn't do it in public because repercussions. But in private he disrespects them just like I do. So does The President."

Last edited by 2pairsof2s; 07-07-2018 at 11:36 AM.
07-07-2018 , 11:34 AM
mecantplay, are you really this stupid? Like you don't understand why it's different for black people to reclaim and use a word that is a defining symbol of the oppression of and violence against black people by white slave owners, and continues to represent the most vile forms of racism to this day, then it is for white people to use this word?
07-07-2018 , 11:36 AM
Most people seem to think that we're still at a point in US History where white people should occasionally just stfu. When the time out is over, you'll be notified.
07-07-2018 , 11:52 AM
Penalty should be based on how hard the dude stuck the landing with the R - no R no penalty.

The real conundrum is what happens if you call a black person boy in the tournament - now there's can of worms
07-07-2018 , 11:53 AM
Meanwhile, if you wanted to know where Hawkins' hometown is from, look it up on Cardplayer.com. He puts it in as "Plantation".

Is Hawkins using the race card (along with his hole cards) like no other? Maybe he is just an "A hole" chessmaster playing someone else like a fiddle? No pun intended.

(Btw, I too think the "N" word is a no no overall however imo.)
07-07-2018 , 12:04 PM
I was raised in a military family and 'boy' was one of the worst things you could call someone, white/black/brown/yellow, didn't matter.

Essentially it meant '...you are inferior to me, I can kick your a$$ and if you don't think so then make your move...'

The few times someone referred to me as 'boy' early in my young adulthood they were given one warning. There weren't many second tries but when there was a throat punch soon followed. Sometimes I got my butt kicked but I think I was +ev in the encounters.
07-07-2018 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
mecantplay, are you really this stupid? Like you don't understand why it's different for black people to reclaim and use a word that is a defining symbol of the oppression of and violence against black people by white slave owners, and continues to represent the most vile forms of racism to this day, then it is for white people to use this word?
How is he supposed to understand how bad that word is if he's never experienced what it stands for? I am pretty sure everyone knows it's a bad word that you shouldn't use, but it just isn't that big of a deal in other parts of the world, especially those that don't have a significant amount of black people living there.

I don't use that word, but I had no idea about its severity before living in the US. Until the 90s, a chocolate covered marshmallow was called 'Negerkuss' or 'Mohrenkopf' (Kuss = kiss, Mohr = old derogative term for people from Africa, Kopf = head) in Germany. When we played tag as kids, that game was called 'wer hat Angst vorm schwarzen Mann' which translates to 'who's afraid of the black man'.

It's pretty ignorant to assume people from other parts of the world understand the outrage about the situation.
07-07-2018 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
I was raised in a military family and 'boy' was one of the worst things you could call someone, white/black/brown/yellow, didn't matter.

Essentially it meant '...you are inferior to me, I can kick your a$$ and if you don't think so then make your move...'

The few times someone referred to me as 'boy' early in my young adulthood they were given one warning. There weren't many second tries but when there was a throat punch soon followed. Sometimes I got my butt kicked but I think I was +ev in the encounters.
You show them what a badass you are by punching them!

Seriously learn to behave.
07-07-2018 , 12:18 PM
When white people ask why black people can say the word I don’t think it’s because they want to use it

More of a question of why not just let the word die on a vine?
07-07-2018 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
mecantplay, are you really this stupid? Like you don't understand why it's different for black people to reclaim and use a word that is a defining symbol of the oppression of and violence against black people by white slave owners, and continues to represent the most vile forms of racism to this day, then it is for white people to use this word?
This.
07-07-2018 , 12:29 PM
If you called a chinese man a ch!nk in an event would you be disqualified?
07-07-2018 , 12:32 PM
Then there is this thread..
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-post53308277/

Where the OP calls him “an awful, awful human being”.

But its all good now...
https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...spute-amicably
07-07-2018 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stlcardinals
If you called a chinese man a ch!nk in an event would you be disqualified?
Only if accompanied by the raising of both eye corners with your fingers.
07-07-2018 , 12:44 PM
Some people ITT are emotionally envisioning like an elderly black gentleman just minding his business at the table suddenly being hurled N-bombs at him.

FFS this is Hawkins, the absolute nut low for a table mate, I don't care what color he is. I would really like to know the lead up to these words that were said, and the manner, volume and tone of them as well.

I can almost guarantee Hawkins was laughing it up with whatever friends he has as he recounted the story of how he got some white mf'er cracker DQ'd.

Don't agree with using that word at all, but ffs I would't be surprised if Hawkins was relentlessly pestering this guy to the point he made an obvious mistake, with Hawkins then screaming and crying like the butthurt victim, give me a break.
07-07-2018 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
Meanwhile, if you wanted to know where Hawkins' hometown is from, look it up on Cardplayer.com. He puts it in as "Plantation".

Is Hawkins using the race card (along with his hole cards) like no other? Maybe he is just an "A hole" chessmaster playing someone else like a fiddle?
uhhhh no,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation,_Florida
07-07-2018 , 12:53 PM
He still plays the race card like an a-hole because he didn't put Florida behind it. He knows what this looks like. Actually since there is actually a town called "Plantation" he uses it as bait so he can go ape**** (I use this word regardless of race, for all the SJW's out there, the fact I seriously had to consider using another word means how ****ed this all is) when someone makes the mistake.
07-07-2018 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stlcardinals
If you called a chinese man a ch!nk in an event would you be disqualified?
Perhaps, if the Chinese were enslaved in this country for nearly 100 years and "ch!nk" was the favored epithet of the slave owners.
07-07-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Perhaps, if the Chinese were enslaved in this country for nearly 100 years and "ch!nk" was the favored epithet of the slave owners.
Pretty close.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...nese_Americans
07-07-2018 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sellout
How is voluntarily emigration and labor participation pretty close to forced emigration and slavery?
07-07-2018 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
How is voluntarily emigration and labor participation pretty close to forced emigration and slavery?
It's not of course, I think he's just making the point that thousands and thousands of Chinese were killed in an almost disposable way, treated as disposable labor, in the building of America's railroads, dams, mines, etc.
07-07-2018 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AKyouwin
Hawkins is a total jerk. Played with him a couple of times. He uses racial slurs to non-black people all the time. Genuinely one of the most disgusting humans I've ever shared a table with, and I've played from in a lot of dodgy places.
I heard him berate a player at wsop Circuit ME at Harrahs after the guy suckout. No floor was called when he call the white guy a dumb cracker. You can blame all the white people for laughing at the table instead of calling the floor. I wasn't going to intervene since he didn't directed his slur towards me. And I'm not white. But 100%... he is a complete ass. His reasoning is that his table talk and angle shooting gets him EV. Still doesn't negate he his scum of scum.
07-07-2018 , 01:35 PM
As John Mulaney said: “If you’re comparing the badness of two words and you won’t even say one of them? That’s the worse word.”

      
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