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Maurice Hawkins still owes his backer Maurice Hawkins still owes his backer

05-14-2024 , 09:37 AM
I'm not saying that the two Players situations are the same .. but but I do find myself much more accepting of Chino Rheem than MH. I do believe that CR has taken care of 'the past' whereas I'm not so sure that MH has. CR has made his story public himself and from what I've seen there aren't any detractors to the story.

From what I've seen, which is certainly limited on both sides, CR has 'grown up' whereas MH is still acting like a 20-something 'poker punk'. It's really too bad that a Player who definitely has talent is bad for the room in general. You can suggest that talent will ultimately win out, but poker doesn't owe anyone good results. Acting like you deserve results is what turns others away.

Again, on a totally different scale, but DNegs and PHell constantly show 'deserved' behaviors when they play/lose. But for me, it's just a completely different vibe from MH. GL
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05-14-2024 , 10:20 AM
Does Maurice still owe the dude? He just shipped another circuit Main for $250k. Or is that just enough to feed his family for a couple months and he still cant afford it....
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05-19-2024 , 09:57 PM


New interview. Says he does not owe to anyone lol

Cant embed youtube directly no matter what i try.

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05-20-2024 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal


New interview. Says he does not owe to anyone lol

Cant embed youtube directly no matter what i try.
100% lying scumbag who consistently contradicts himself. Possibly the dumbest human to ever win a poker tournament. That was hard to watch.

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05-20-2024 , 09:26 AM
Didn't watch this yet .. but MH was cashed over the weekend in Michigan at the MSPT $1100 ME. Pretty sure he fired multiple bullets .. which probably means he didn't turn a profit for the visit (at least in the tournament).

Matt Berkey (and Friends) have a sort of rebuttal/discussion on YouTube from a couple days after the Poker.org piece came out if you want to absorb more on this. GL
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05-20-2024 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Didn't watch this yet .. but MH was cashed over the weekend in Michigan at the MSPT $1100 ME. Pretty sure he fired multiple bullets .. which probably means he didn't turn a profit for the visit (at least in the tournament).

Matt Berkey (and Friends) have a sort of rebuttal/discussion on YouTube from a couple days after the Poker.org piece came out if you want to absorb more on this. GL
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05-20-2024 , 06:11 PM
Nothing will happen to this db cause poker players are the biggest pussies on the planet. Also, why hasn't anyone called out Jean Gaspard, the Vegas scammer?
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05-20-2024 , 10:21 PM
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Nothing will happen to this db cause poker players are the biggest pussies on the planet. Also, why hasn't anyone called out Jean Gaspard, the Vegas scammer?
Wow, calling out Jean Gaspard AKA Prince. I've always wondered how where he got his bankroll. Spill the tea, what has Mr. Gaspard been up to? Maybe start a new thread?

Also, I've had the displeasure of playing with Maurice a few times, not only is he scammer, he is extremely unpleasant when he is losing. Tries to make rec players feel uncomfortable, just horrible person in general.
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05-21-2024 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
100% lying scumbag who consistently contradicts himself. Possibly the dumbest human to ever win a poker tournament. That was hard to watch.
Wow he broke out the blasphemy word.
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05-21-2024 , 08:48 AM
Do these guys travel in packs?

'Prince' was also at the same tournament site that MH was over this past weekend .. I believe he cashed as well, but did have multiple Day 1 attempts. GL
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05-21-2024 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
100% lying scumbag who consistently contradicts himself. Possibly the dumbest human to ever win a poker tournament. That was hard to watch.
Actually i think the interview is fascinating on a psychological level. If u listen carefully he even kind of admits that he scammed people but those "deserved it".

He tells people to meet him in person because he is all hood and people are just jaelous racists.

Narcisstic personality disorder at its finest imo.
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05-21-2024 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal
Actually i think the interview is fascinating on a psychological level. If u listen carefully he even kind of admits that he scammed people but those "deserved it".

He tells people to meet him in person because he is all hood and people are just jaelous racists.

Narcisstic personality disorder at its finest imo.
Which is hilarious bc Maurice is about as scary as a newborn puppy.
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05-21-2024 , 12:24 PM
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Wow he broke out the blasphemy word.
And dropped like 5 "oppressors" in the first 15 mins.

When you try to use fancy words to sound smart, but dont know what they mean so you sound even more conceited. Or maybe he really does view himself as a god-like figure and talking bad about him is, by definition, blasphemy.


The only thing in the interview that I remotely empathize with is the distinction between owing a debt, and being in makeup. Who knows whats true and whats not. But regardless he admits to owing the guy $20k and was also pretty adamant that he isn't going to pay it back, so that kinda says it all.

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05-21-2024 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal
Actually i think the interview is fascinating on a psychological level. If u listen carefully he even kind of admits that he scammed people but those "deserved it".

He tells people to meet him in person because he is all hood and people are just jaelous racists.

Narcisstic personality disorder at its finest imo.
Indeed very interesting, but also annoying because he's so damn stupid and unable to pronounce words he thinks he knows.

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Which is hilarious bc Maurice is about as scary as a newborn puppy.
But he's from St Louis!!
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05-22-2024 , 06:06 AM
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But he's from St Louis!!
Reminds me of all the loudmouths who have to let everyone know they're "from Houston".

Yeah, good for you buddy.
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05-22-2024 , 08:30 AM
OK .. I did watch and tried to keep up with the flow. The interview really could've been cut down as a lot of stuff was repeated 3-5 times, which generally will lead to confusion about which subject is actually being discussed.

Memory/recall is huge when playing poker and it sounds like he has a lot of stuff going on that needs to be kept track of both in poker and personal dealings.

Backers are different from Stakers that are different from personal Loaners where every agreement will have it's own set of terms that may or may not be understood out in the open. The 'deserved' comment stemmed from a Backer who supposedly didn't follow thru or tried to change the terms of the agreement midstream. I'm guessing that MH already had some of the Backers money in his Bankroll and perhaps just held onto it when the Backer didn't follow thru in the spots he was trying to describe.

A bit of contradictory comment when he's asking Berkey to use names and yet he wouldn't use them himself (in some spots), trying to keep 'his' deals private IMO. Where Berkey can 'get away with' his comments is that he (more than once) stipulated that they are not journalists, only just 'friends' sitting down and having a very public conversation. It's actually pretty smart and it would be interesting to see how a court would view an 'opinion' podcast v a Poker News article in a defamation case. He did say he had 'sources', but just didn't want to name them. This is a similar line that a journalist would take, but just as MH said about Rampage making comments 'only' about what he had seen somewhere where is the line between gossip and 'reporting'.

If you can try to filter out the mix of frosting comments he actually does provide a good dose of his perspective and comes off rather self-aware and certainly unapologetic for his poker behavior/tactics at the table while leaving the door open that he's just human like all of us .. but is just targeted way more than others. IMO if you stir the dust then you're probably going to get blamed for it more often than not even when it may not be 'deserving'.

I think the jury is still out, but I'm glad that he gave us some of his time .. even if he really doesn't give a hoot about our POV. I've always said the best way to get involved in a debate/discussion is to know more about both sides than anyone else. GL
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05-22-2024 , 01:02 PM
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Reminds me of all the loudmouths who have to let everyone know they're "from Houston".

Yeah, good for you buddy.
I dare you to come over here and say that lmao
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05-22-2024 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaAces
Indeed very interesting, but also annoying because he's so damn stupid and unable to pronounce words he thinks he knows.


But he's from St Louis!!
So was Michael Spinks ?
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05-22-2024 , 08:08 PM
Feature table time at the TOC

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05-23-2024 , 10:07 AM
Made Day 2 of the Freeroll basically on the bubble with just over 100 left. Did he qualify more than once to this event?

To stretch/stir just because that's what we do here .. So if he was backed/stacked in NC, AND that's the reason he qualified for this Freeroll, should those parties also get a piece of anything he takes home from here?

Didn't really watch the stream much yet .. but may just listen to it in the car to see how much the mic picked up on him and the others.

To give him some credit, for all the dust surrounding him, he has sustained success over a long period of time. Perhaps he also knows his place playing WSOPc events rather than trying to step up or get caught up in the cash game streams. Does he really play a full WSOP schedule? And I'm not trying to be negative with this at all. He may be smart in the 'fact' that he is in his wheelhouse playing +EV in Circuit Events rather than trying to 'step up.

Lots of other 'dust makers' have faded away fairly quickly from the poker world. Whether you think by scam, other or a mix of both it would be remiss if you don't acknowledge that he's been doing this, at the same level of poker, for a very long time in poker terms. GL
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05-23-2024 , 01:01 PM
No one is denying that he has some live poker chops. The fact that his game is centered around verbally abusing people is certainly a moral grey area though. The jury is not out on whether or not he is a scammer though. It is a fact. Do not make any financial agreements with this man.
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05-23-2024 , 01:07 PM
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No one is denying that he has some live poker chops. The fact that his game is centered around verbally abusing people is certainly a moral grey area though. The jury is not out on whether or not he is a scammer though. It is a fact. Do not make any financial agreements with this man.
Any sort of verbal sparring would lose its edge the second you start repeating "your a verified scammer" every time he opens his mouth
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05-23-2024 , 01:20 PM
That will up to the agreement between him and his backers.

I have played with him several times and from what I see, he is very very good at getting recs to play with their egos instead of their brains. Solid poker fundamentals too, obviously.

We will probably never see him on the high roller circuit, he cant tilt those guys into donating stacks to him.
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05-23-2024 , 08:01 PM
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Made Day 2 of the Freeroll basically on the bubble with just over 100 left. Did he qualify more than once to this event?

To stretch/stir just because that's what we do here .. So if he was backed/stacked in NC, AND that's the reason he qualified for this Freeroll, should those parties also get a piece of anything he takes home from here?

Didn't really watch the stream much yet .. but may just listen to it in the car to see how much the mic picked up on him and the others.

To give him some credit, for all the dust surrounding him, he has sustained success over a long period of time. Perhaps he also knows his place playing WSOPc events rather than trying to step up or get caught up in the cash game streams. Does he really play a full WSOP schedule? And I'm not trying to be negative with this at all. He may be smart in the 'fact' that he is in his wheelhouse playing +EV in Circuit Events rather than trying to 'step up.

Lots of other 'dust makers' have faded away fairly quickly from the poker world. Whether you think by scam, other or a mix of both it would be remiss if you don't acknowledge that he's been doing this, at the same level of poker, for a very long time in poker terms. GL

When you lose Other Peoples money when you lose but keep the money when you win pretty easy to be active for a long time.
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05-23-2024 , 08:38 PM
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I dare you to come over here and say that lmao
lol but wouldn’t that involve going to that shithole? I’m good
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