Admitted jealous of his sucess and results.

Fan boy in the fact that I look to see where he stands.

The dbaggery and off felt fraud accusations are a huge red flag.

He has all the skills and personna to be so much more... but above red flags are a huge life leak.

Hawkins came in second a WSOPC main event.

Guy is on a tear

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2019/...t=pn-hp-hero-1

Yeah, may be a douche and not really an honest person(based on OP and the lawyer that sued him) but no one can deny the guy crushes in tournaments.

Well clearly people are denying that. Saying with all his dishonest behavior it’s not ridiculous to think there’s a chance he’s cheating

I would agree.

His results are up in the are of those Pot ripper graphs that came out at beginning of UB scandal.

Occam razor stuff. In the this case I hate to say it, but simplest explanation is some sort of card marking.


I am not saying that is what happened. Just that it is the simplest explanation.

So it is this Occam dude that is accusing him

he really is just great at live poker. his whole persona and all that **** combined with being alright is a great combo

certainly possible and I was asserting that earlier in the thread.

I'd love to see sort of graph with his results vs next top 10 WSOPC players.

Im guessing its pretty shocking.

Card marking still the simplest explanation. MTTs would be easiest place to do that vs Cash games. maybe he created some new method.

He is without a doubt a smart guy

You go from simplest explanation to something not so simple in one sentence. It's possible in the sense that almost anything is possible. But the guy has a huge target on his back and one would think if he were doing things like you speculate, he would have been found out.

I am interested in the possibility of him cheating, given his repeat fraud elsewhere, so was having a look at YouTube to see what film there is of him playing live, and there is hardly any film there. I am not sure if it is coincidental he plays unrecorded games.

At times he wears glasses, hoodie and headphones while playing, but from the very limited film seen there is no smoking gun.

Ivey exploited a flaw in the design of the backs of cards, perhaps there may be something similar going on with Hawkins, as the remarkably high set of results in a very specific wsop circuit series of games, that he doesn't match elsewhere, rings alarm bells.

mathematically, What sort of edge would one need to show those results over the years. I have no idea how to calc . just take a guess.


Heater does not explain, unless its one of those 7 year heaters.

Its either

- never before seen massive skill edge
- cheating,
- some some sort of xmen mutation where he read peoples minds.

you can pick which ever one you feel is most plausible.

FYP

I'd be surprised if he didn't cheat. I mean if there were no "results" and just reading about the guy in general I'd be surprised if he wasn't running scams all day long...

I go with skill edge enhanced by reads on locals until EVIDENCE emerges to the contrary. This is how things work, this ain't like #MeToo.

PTLou you have a thread in strat bellyaching for pages over the advanced concept of *checks notes* opening sizes.

You’re not qualified to call it. Watch your superiors in action and learn.

"7 yr heater" is an oxymoron. If there was ever a place to type DUCY it would be here. But I wont. that meme is played out.


Very Maurice-esque type statements. Birds of a feather I guess.

Yes in that thread I asked why BB standards open sizes have morphed over the years down toward 2.0x and the logic / strat behind that. Cant rem the bellyaching part, can't rem any discussion about advanced strategies nor do I know what a check note is.

Being inferior does have it challenges.

But MOST importantly. u mad bro?

Ptlou please stop posting. Thanks!

You mentioned the 7 year heater (which is why I put it in quotation marks). My point is that it is a combination of skill edge and running well - years of live MTTs is still not a massive sample size and easily possible to run well above EV

Deciding someone is cheating based solely on results and without any direct accusations or evidence or even just rumours seems a bit tin foil hat to me

@stupor ...how far above EV do you think he is running ?

It is more like a 4 year heater. Hes not cheating but does run really well, the thing is Maurice is a really good player when on his A game but he does not play his best a lot of the time.

He pretty much bricked the WSOP in Vegas. But Jesus he's killing the circuit. I have to think the fields are a bit weaker.

He is a strong player. I hate folks like him and Kassouf though, just needling people all the time. I have to admit this is one of the things that make me hate live poker.

Good scammers do a lot of work up front to filter out anyone with minimal intelligence and smarts. The scam doesn't work if the victim gets cold feet quickly. The best scams depend on the low morals of the victim who is looking for something for nothing.

Turd on a heater

You can’t rem and don’t know a lot, maybe you should give the master detective thing a miss.

^^^ meh.. didnt know maurice had so many fanboys in 2+2



I only play cherokee WSOPC events now. . Maurice says he doesnt read 2+2 .For a fact he does. Prob checks this thread at least 3-4 times per day.

long game for me ITT (but believe all I said). He knows exactly who I am. Lately WSOPc cherokees is all I care to play. He of course is always there.

Believe me I would MUCH rather he NOT be at my table. But if he is, my questioning ITT owhether or not skill was reason for his results, will send him gunning for me and with poor decisions because he will be so lit. perfect perfect for me

If he can summon the strength to somehow control is narcissistic sourced anger and targets others, the good to.... cuz If he is doing something with cards, zero chance I don;t catch it

Funny part is even when he reads this (within next 4 hours) it wont matter. he cant control his emotions. ill get the same results.

I played with him once; made him cry. His breath stank

Well being in the top 1% or even just top 10% on the bell curve over that period of time could easily be enough to explain it. someone has to be fortunate enough to be there, and that along with having a (big?) edge in his game types could easily explain his success.

lol "fanboy". i don't know him but he sounds like a total douche. i can't stand people who behave like he reportedly does

Lou, i often agree with your posts but i just think assuming he is cheating ONLY based on results is paranoid. If there were incidents where people were suspicious of his behaviour at the tables or he'd been caught before or something that would be different. would be incredibly difficult to come up with a method of cheating that works when you are the focus of a lot of attention. and get away with it over hundreds of tournies without so much as a hint of anything suspicious

it is just so much more likely that he is good and lucky than that he is cheating