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when I said that I was referring to taking no time to think about his turn decision and it was prior to river action. how's he making a read when he calls within 2 seconds? i'm not saying it's a fold but he could attempt to use his mega advantage of reads to figure things out.

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09-19-2017 , 03:57 AM

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Utah_CUtiger

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Phil's attitude towards Sontheimer is pretty sickening... He's such a god damn tool.
It's Soooo awkward how he talks like the guy isn't 5 feet away. He's a sociopath

Maria Ho is sounds like a hostage reading a ransom letter

I love how they cut to Maria with no warning whatsoever. She often interrupts Ali as they cut to her.

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09-19-2017 , 04:02 AM

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hellmuth saying that "these kids" play 40 high rollers a year and pass the money around and catch him on the money list, and only have like 10 % of themselves. Seiver calls him out and asks how much Phil has of himself and he says 20 %.

Called himself a 14 time world champion and says he knows who the good players are so don't talk to him about rankings. All of this started because goose called his highjack opener on the button with Q8 suited.

There's like a 70% chance he actually believes these "kids" think the all time money list is important. It's not like they are doing it for the actual money or anything.

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09-19-2017 , 04:03 AM

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Dan Shak taking about 3 decades to be moved to the feature.

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09-19-2017 , 04:27 AM

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PLEASE call Rast.

53!

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09-19-2017 , 04:32 AM

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Did Rast out read Phil?

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09-19-2017 , 04:37 AM

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Phil has like, what 8 BBs, and is folding pairs

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09-19-2017 , 04:44 AM

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Now Phil has like 70K, raises and calls a 3bet for like $34K with Q4ss.
He can't be for real

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09-19-2017 , 04:45 AM

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lol despite my earlier post, Phil playing some godawful poker the last few hands... flatting Q4s to a 3! that cost him 20K of his 60K remaining stack

edit: then limps red AA with 10BB, checks 3-way flop through lmao

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09-19-2017 , 04:48 AM

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lol despite my earlier post, Phil playing some godawful poker the last few hands... flatting Q4s to a 3! that cost him 20K of his 60K remaining stack

Now with like 38K, 7-8-9 BBs he limps AA
3 flop, checks back flop.

Won like 24K.

Phil irate that Dan says Phil could've checked back the A-hi flush draw on the flop, meanwhile he limped AA and checked back the flop
LOL

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09-19-2017 , 04:50 AM

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lol this is great

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09-19-2017 , 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9

Now with like 38K, 7-8-9 BBs he limps AA
3 flop, checks back flop.

Won like 24K

then berates Rast for folding the losing hand and dumps on the amateur businessman for not knowing all the combos that Hellmuth could've had

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09-19-2017 , 05:01 AM

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Phil starts playing like 75% of hands when less than 15 BBs.

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09-19-2017 , 05:05 AM

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then berates Rast for folding the losing hand and dumps on the amateur businessman for not knowing all the combos that Hellmuth could've had

He's gone full Hellmuth. You never go full Hellmuth...

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09-19-2017 , 05:17 AM

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Has the broadcast finished for the day yet?

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09-19-2017 , 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by apricotjello

it's become very easy to hate on daniel, hellmuth, and a lot of the old school guys. they clearly don't have as good of a grasp on the math/theory that inform high-stakes play right now as many of the crushers do, and i'm sure they'd agree that they'd be -EV if they played whatever level of online poker you need those skills at without a lot of coaching.

that said, it's incredible how they have attained such strong results in live tournaments year over year for two-plus decades. i'd love to see a final table with a good mix of the old school guys (Hellmuth, Seidel, DN) and new gunners (Fedor, Ben86, Sontheimer)

the only oldschool player with good results in super highrollers is Seidel, and judging by the wy hes playing I wouldnt be surprised if he has done some theoretical work (and if not, he can clearly grasp fundamentals on an intuitive level, like Isildur). Hellmuth, Dnegs etc have no results in tournaments without tons of recreational players giving them chips. Sure, exploiting amateurs to the maximum is also an important skill moneywise, but it wont win you superhighrollers.

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09-19-2017 , 12:06 PM

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Dnegs etc have no results in tournaments without tons of recreational players giving them chips. Sure, exploiting amateurs to the maximum is also an important skill moneywise, but it wont win you superhighrollers.

I don't think DN is +EV in fields like the poker masters or other super highrollers, but you can't say he doesn't have results in tournaments without tons of recreational players. At this years WSOP he cashed in 5 10k events and final tabled the 50k PPC. Those are not really amateur heavy events.

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09-19-2017 , 12:11 PM

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good point, but most of those events were non-holdem, I think he should be doing much better in non-holdem games, due to them being way less solved than holdem. I was refering to nlhe superhighrollers specifically.

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09-19-2017 , 12:20 PM

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Dnegs is and always has been very much a mixed game player. I honestly don't know why he thinks he can compete with high-level NLHE specialists.

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09-19-2017 , 12:34 PM

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Yeah watching Hellmuth play is absolutely painful. I would not back that guy in a 2006 cash game.

Listening to him talking about how his theoretical game is on different level then the rest was super cringe.

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09-19-2017 , 01:42 PM

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He's gone full Hellmuth. You never go full Hellmuth...

lol, ... I haven't seen the Masters of Poker , but I still like the joke.

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09-19-2017 , 02:12 PM

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LFG BRYN KENNY

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09-19-2017 , 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9

limping AA with <10 bbs is better than jamming imo

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09-19-2017 , 06:11 PM

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Wreckless from Dan Smith

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09-19-2017 , 06:18 PM

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There isn't a poker news type site that has updates [I suppose]?

As I would love to refresh and see what is 'going down' - but haven't the time [or the $10 hmm] to watch it live

Best place, if any, for running updates?

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