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12-04-2023 , 10:54 PM

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kerr

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Click “Show more” below to read entire tweet

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12-04-2023 , 11:12 PM

#52

AAJTo

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Feldman the smartest guy in the room sitting back collecting millions in sponsorship deals and stream revenue cause he found a way to monetize low life cheats and scammers.

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12-04-2023 , 11:33 PM

#53

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millions... lol

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12-04-2023 , 11:42 PM

#54

AAJTo

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Originally Posted by rickroll

millions... lol

Hes bought in for 100k+ how many times on stream now?

You think he got pennies for that garbage multiway solver that coincidentally launched at the same time as the million dollar buy in week?

"lol"

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12-05-2023 , 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AAJTo

Feldman the smartest guy in the room sitting back collecting millions in sponsorship deals and stream revenue cause he found a way to monetize low life cheats and scammers.

this right here is the overlooked main story here

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12-05-2023 , 01:58 AM

#56

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Originally Posted by Fat_Vicious

So to sum this up, Mars is as much a snowboarding instructor as

- Nik Airball is a successful investment banker, and not a trust fund baby
- Wesely is a successful crypto analyst, and not a trust fund baby
- Pepe doesn't f with drug trafficking and mexican cartels
- Nik V is an honest and upright real estate agent
- Rampage/Mariano made their net worth from poker and not from running illegal app games
- Ryusuke didn't scam and fled to asia
- Hellmuth didn't angle shoot an amateur
- Mikki.... pls don't even get me started
- Robbi didn't cheat

Man what a bunch of lovely people, can't wait for the next stream!

The mastermind of all the LA poker grifts is probably someone nobody would ever suspect. It's probably Mike X . Way too innocent, way too polite, way to average Joe looking. It's got to be him.

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12-05-2023 , 02:26 AM

#57

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Originally Posted by AAJTo

You seriously think this show has made millions in sponsorship deals?

Guy obviously runs private games that he rakes the **** out of.

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12-05-2023 , 04:57 AM

#58

Sonora

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Seems like image uploading doesnt work for me but prahladfriedmann says on twitter that mars recieved signals from vertucci.

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12-05-2023 , 05:42 AM

#59

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Originally Posted by borg23

You seriously think this show has made millions in sponsorship deals?

Guy obviously runs private games that he rakes the **** out of.

Anyone on twitch with 5k+ viewers is easily clearing a million a year without counting sponsorships. I know yt pays less but hcl also gets 15k viewers. Cant believe you guys think its impossible Feldman is making millions off this.

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12-05-2023 , 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonora

Seems like image uploading doesnt work for me but prahladfriedmann says on twitter that mars recieved signals from vertucci.

https://postimages.org

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12-05-2023 , 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zrap

The mastermind of all the LA poker grifts is probably someone nobody would ever suspect. It's probably Mike X . Way too innocent, way too polite, way to average Joe looking. It's got to be him.

https://highrollpoker.com/tracker/players/1116

Mike X stopped winning right after J4... Not claiming but also not not claiming anything

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12-05-2023 , 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Avian

https://highrollpoker.com/tracker/players/1116

Mike X stopped winning right after J4... Not claiming but also not not claiming anything

Going by that graph you posted he went on a nearly 500k upswing after J4 (October 22 btw) lmao

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12-05-2023 , 06:29 AM

#63

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Originally Posted by Noobtard

Going by that graph you posted he went on a nearly 500k upswing after J4 (October 22 btw) lmao

they didnt shut down stream for months though right? I said I am not claimin nothin

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12-05-2023 , 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AAJTo

What you mean to say is that the majority of incredibly widely known Onlyfans models on Twitch clear 7 figs per year across all of their platforms... yeah no ****. "Poker players" are somewhat notoriously one of the worst demographics for subbing/making donos on Twitch. 5K viewers on a poker stream is no where near worth as much as 5K zoomers or coomers for a stream in pretty much any other category.

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12-05-2023 , 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Avian

they didnt shut down stream for months though right? I said I am not claimin nothin

In reality the graph is probably more indicative of him going on a streak, then deciding he's good enough to play the super high stakes games and getting crushed lol

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12-05-2023 , 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by zrap

The mastermind of all the LA poker grifts is probably someone nobody would ever suspect. It's probably Mike X . Way too innocent, way too polite, way to average Joe looking. It's got to be him.

The weirdest part about Mike X is that he’s a self proclaimed ‘fashion designer’ …

Not sure if that’s a cover like ‘snowboard instructor’

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12-05-2023 , 08:43 AM

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https://youtu.be/3YWL6OWWElI 1:42:13 one of the most wild hands between Eli and Mars.

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12-05-2023 , 09:39 AM

#68

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Originally Posted by Koshko

https://youtu.be/3YWL6OWWElI 1:42:13 one of the most wild hands between Eli and Mars.

you can add &t= to url for a specific time on youtube.

https://youtu.be/3YWL6OWWElI&t=6133s

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12-05-2023 , 10:23 AM

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Did Airball say he isn't pressing charges? Wasn't in the twitter space, but if so he's stupid and enabling scammers since they wont even be punished. Really hope they press charges.

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12-05-2023 , 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GustavGanz

Did Airball say he isn't pressing charges? Wasn't in the twitter space, but if so he's stupid and enabling scammers since they wont even be punished. Really hope they press charges.

I was in the Twitter Space towards the end, and I caught him saying that he was going to explore options with his lawyers but at the end of the day he's not expecting to get anything back so he's already viewing the lost money as a sunk cost.

Also, because of the nature of private games, he brought up a concern that many of the players within some of the games he played in that were cheated would not want to be personally apart of a criminal investigation. So regardless if he pressed charges, he felt it would be difficult to get corroborating witness testimony if they choose to omit themselves from the situation all together.

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12-05-2023 , 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Highroll Poker

Well at least Wes and Charles would likely be willing to testify no?
I can not imagine just accepting that and letting the scammer keep the money. I would go to the end of the world to punish someone like that.

Also anyone got any info on Mars beaten up in a plaza and being locked up for 1 month?

Edit: Found more info from reddit.

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According to Rina from twitter spaces last night:

Mars was beaten in a plaza

Held in a “basement” or “dungeon” for a month

Repeatedly threatened to pay back money

Mars apparently refused and didn’t seem to care about the imprisonment. (she implied that he was expecting this would all catch up to him at some point)

The people keeping Mars did not want to kill him and let him go after they realized he wouldn’t budge.

ref:

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12-05-2023 , 10:41 AM

#72

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Originally Posted by AAJTo

I think it's impossible someone with Feldman's reputation -as the best game organizer out there- doesnt have multiple private games he rakes the **** out of. He's even made mention of such games going on during COVID before stopping himself from going into more detail. And surely he makes piles as an agent on these app games.

I've seen several local players in my casino who precovid would cry if they lost 300 dollars, that got in the agent game when COVID hit and now dump 10k or more like it's nothing. And they don't have Feldman's notoriety or connections.

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12-05-2023 , 10:48 AM

#73

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Originally Posted by Highroll Poker

This. No one involved is going to want law enforcement anywhere near this situation. Also would think that how those scammed want justice is not to see Mars get a couple years of probation (as a resident of Los Angeles I can tell you we do not prosecute even serious violent crimes in many cases so doubt George Gascon is going to spend much time on rich guys getting scammed in a private poker game).

On Berkey's podcast they indicated Mars is familiar with how those scammed take care of business as he had a similar situation in NYC (and that is when Sia was potentially involved).

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12-05-2023 , 10:51 AM

#74

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Originally Posted by Noobtard

you can add &t= to url for a specific time on youtube.

https://youtu.be/3YWL6OWWElI&t=6133s

immediately after the hand someone comes over and asks him to hand over his watch

and then immediately after the best part is airball jokes about him getting caught cheating

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12-05-2023 , 10:52 AM

#75

GustavGanz

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Originally Posted by rickroll

immediately after the hand someone comes over and asks him to hand over his watch

and then immediately after the best part is airball jokes about him getting caught cheating

Wow wtf hahahaa

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