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Mars from HCL accused of cheating Nik Airball et al. in home games (Mars statement post #87) Mars from HCL accused of cheating Nik Airball et al. in home games (Mars statement post #87)

12-03-2023 , 09:28 PM


Ye Shen aka Mars aka Tony ran rigged games in the Chinese private high stakes scene.

Known victims:

Nik Airball lost $1 million
Wesley lost $4 million
Charles Yu lost $1 million



Taking the following from a commenter on Reddit (u/RainSC2) as the breakdown is pretty well made:

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Listening to the Twitter Spaces that Nik's talking in right now and jotted some notes:

- Cheater was Mars https://twitter.com/nikairball/statu...iedIuymDlKp4xA

- Mars' real identity is Ye Shen aka Mars and has played on HCL and for the most part beat the game and was known to crush home games, everyone knew this but liked him so he was still invited back, so him winning a bunch wasn't unexpected and let him run the scam for longer https://highrollpoker.com/tracker/players/1450 HCL results back this claim

- March to December 2023 is when the cheating took place, game ran very frequently

- Nik Airball thought of Mars as a really good friend throughout all of this

- Nik Airball cheated by Mars in Chinese private home games. Mars brought a white dealer with him that was a mechanic. Usually at chinese home games it's supposed to be all chinese dealers but Mars brought Nik Airball with him as an excuse to bring his white dealer friend in saying "we need a white dealer because we have an American guest". Nik thought this was weird because he's primarily played in Chinese private games, speaks Chinese, and doesn't care about having a Chinese dealer but also didn't care enough to speak out.

- They have text screenshots of the white dealer they caught saying "ill bring the decks" to Mars

- Nik Airball heard rumors that Mars was involved in many cheating rings in China, and that in the mainland he can't get a game because of his reputation as a cheat.

- Mars apparently lost $1.5 million in baccarat in Vegas over the past year, so he told Nik Airball that he can't pay him back. Airball knows his losses in baccarat are true but also Nik knows that Mars just bought a $2.2 million house as well as has multiple properties across the U.S. worth at minimum $500k each. AKA he's hiding money that he can pay back victims with but doesnt want to

- Charles and Wes both scammed too

- Charles played the Mars game with Airball and after losing -$50k which is not a significant amount to Charles, he left the game early and then called Airball and told him "GTFO there's cheating there". Airball didn't believe him and kept playing, then proceeded to lose a **** ton of money to preflop coolers, set over set, boat over boat.

- Jamie Gold cheated LA rigged private games for years with an Italian guy named Peter Peruso, and then disappeared. This was brought up in convo as the second coming of something like that but instead with Mars.

Last edited by Highroll Poker; 12-03-2023 at 09:38 PM.
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12-03-2023 , 09:38 PM
Nik airball’s 15 minutes were up about 10 minutes ago.
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12-03-2023 , 10:17 PM
"A very good cheating deck"

Greed is not good.
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12-03-2023 , 10:22 PM
Shocking and unexpected.
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12-03-2023 , 10:31 PM
Half the players on HCL are scumbag cheats
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12-03-2023 , 10:59 PM
HCL is the dumpster fire that keeps on burning
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12-03-2023 , 11:24 PM
Wait, he isn’t a Snowboarding instructor?
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12-03-2023 , 11:47 PM
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no knowledge of how private games work... is it standard for a player to bring their own decks from Yorba Linda? also, is the allegation see through deck with special contacts, or mechanic dealer, or both?

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Wesley lost $4 million
i'd like to think i'd start to question the integrity of the game before losing ~40,000 BBs, but that's just me
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12-04-2023 , 12:29 AM
Why would you need a dealer if you have contacts that can see thru the cards . Anyone can deal if u can see the cards so why have a mechanic ?


They said they caught marked cards, is there any evidence of a crooked dealer ?

Wesley and airball said they are playing in the game since march . How come now they are saying a white dealer is cheating ? They are the most successful best players in the world and they played 7 months and now something is wrong it don’t add up
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12-04-2023 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
Wait, he isn’t a Snowboarding instructor?
I don't know why I find this so funny though
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12-04-2023 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nycpokergrinder007

Wesley and airball said they are playing in the game since march . How come now they are saying a white dealer is cheating ? They are the most successful best players in the world and they played 7 months and now something is wrong it don’t add up
By what metrics are Airball and Wesley the "most successful best players in the world" ?

Airball by his own admission is on a
$8 million or $10 million downswing.

You mean most successful at losing
money?
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12-04-2023 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
Wait, he isn’t a Snowboarding instructor?
Lmfao
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12-04-2023 , 01:36 AM
So to sum this up, Mars is as much a snowboarding instructor as

- Nik Airball is a successful investment banker, and not a trust fund baby
- Wesely is a successful crypto analyst, and not a trust fund baby
- Pepe doesn't f with drug trafficking and mexican cartels
- Nik V is an honest and upright real estate agent
- Rampage/Mariano made their net worth from poker and not from running illegal app games
- Ryusuke didn't scam and fled to asia
- Hellmuth didn't angle shoot an amateur
- Mikki.... pls don't even get me started
- Robbi didn't cheat

Man what a bunch of lovely people, can't wait for the next stream!
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12-04-2023 , 02:08 AM
Sounds like hes gonna get away with it too because nik wont press charges

chance he ripped off some dangerous chinese triad guys though?
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12-04-2023 , 03:02 AM
- Jamie Gold cheated LA rigged private games for years with an Italian guy named Peter Peruso, and then disappeared. This was brought up in convo as the second coming of something like that but instead with Mars.

Is this old news?
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12-04-2023 , 06:00 AM
Good info, lol at playing high stakes private games with randos you dont know who arent rich businessmen.

How did Charles lose 1 mill in the game if he caught on to the cheating after losing 50k?

Im always surprised when in these kind of stories the victim says "I considered the cheater a close friend". How can some random guy you met at a poker table and knew for less than a year be considered a "close, trusted friend"? What kind of sad social life do you have for this to be the case?
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12-04-2023 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nycpokergrinder007
Why would you need a dealer if you have contacts that can see thru the cards . Anyone can deal if u can see the cards so why have a mechanic ?


They said they caught marked cards, is there any evidence of a crooked dealer ?

Wesley and airball said they are playing in the game since march . How come now they are saying a white dealer is cheating ? They are the most successful best players in the world and they played 7 months and now something is wrong it don’t add up
You need someone with access to the decks to swap out the cards. My understanding is the cards need to be premarked or it would be very obvious you are marking them while playing. I guess if you are super greedy can deal setups as well.
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12-04-2023 , 08:52 AM
Quite ironic that Nik Airball was calling Berkey a scammer, while Mars was his right hand man during the heads up matches and allegedly the actual scammer.
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12-04-2023 , 09:25 AM
Honey attracts bugs money attracts scumbag cheaters.
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12-04-2023 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
You need someone with access to the decks to swap out the cards. My understanding is the cards need to be premarked or it would be very obvious you are marking them while playing. I guess if you are super greedy can deal setups as well.
On a Twitter space a few hours ago, @rinapoker said that packages of marked cards were being shipped in from China. Not sure why the home games would sometimes also need a mechanic.
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12-04-2023 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TRUSTtheDRAWCESS
HCL is the dumpster fire that keeps on burning
This incident has zero to do with HCL.
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12-04-2023 , 10:12 AM
I didn't know marked cards were an industry.
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12-04-2023 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BrickMMA
This incident has zero to do with HCL.
i think the point is HCL keeps letting these crooks play on stream
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12-04-2023 , 11:06 AM
Is Airball surprised?
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