Pistons87 and Frrrrrr playing 50/100 HUNL if someone is interested

stacks:
Pistons 35k to Frr's 10k

I find it a really useful statistic. Of course it's not 100% of the variance but it is a significant part of it, especially if you're all-in a lot and it's the only part that can be accurately measured.

If it wasn't for all in EV, there are downswings where I would have had to move down due to losing confidence, especially when first moving up to a higher stake but when you can see you're a long way below EV it's a lot easier to see it's just running bad and to avoid any tilt and play through the downswing. It also helps with not getting carried away and having unrealistic expectations when you're on a heater, so when the heater ends it's far less of a shock.

It doesn't need to tell you anything about how you're playing. It's useful enough just giving some idea how well you're running.

Lol no one is interested.

Right, so we agree... it's something that can make you feel better (which I stated in my first reply on the subject)... but that's about it.

Overrated otherwise, imho.

Like I said, you can be playing super-bad, and also running bad. But that might cause you to errantly blame your poor play on "running bad" and your "All In EV".

You can also be playing super-good, and also running super-good. But you'd be mistaken to think that the only reason you're winning is that you're running good.

So I think the sword can cut a few ways when relying on All in EV as you stated above.

Woof, stop trolling with your imaginary countdown, please.

It's not only about making you feel better though, it's about having a more realistic idea of how you're likely to do long term, which I think is pretty useful. You need to play a lot less hands for your EV adjusted winrate to be statistically significant than for your actual winrate. Yeah you can still be playing bad and running bad but if you're up EV adjusted over a large sample it's a lot less likely that's the case.

i think urnot is lying about is ev v isildur, in addition to watching the matches (in which he seemed to run very hot) look at his twittier posts, almost every one he talk about how much he won and then how hot he ran.

To the guy that mentioned that Sklansky Bucks would be a better metric of how someone runs... well that really does nothing to solve the problem. Say Isil bluffs off 50k or even 3 barrels 50k with trips when Palmer has flopped top boat, that's running bad because he was unlucky to run into the top of Palmer's range. However, since they were never all in till the river, all-in EV or Sklansky bucks wouldn't tell this side of the story at all.

maybe rooney would make me go gay quicker than blom

i doubt he's lying.. but i don't think the full 1.1 mil is from the last few days. i bet a decent portion of it was from when they battled like a month ago and isildur godmoded him for 300k. isildur was running so hot that urnot thought something fishy was going on.

pretty sure when he said 1.1m he also said that was all time vs Isildur, could be wrong though

***Derailing thread with hand history*** my apologies

Poker Stars $50/$100 No Limit Hold'em $25 Ante - 2 players - View hand 1208963
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compris (BTN/SB): $12673.00
kriga (BB): $10674.00

Pre Flop: ($200.00)
compris raises to $300, kriga raises to $1000, compris calls $700

Flop: ($2050.00) 4 2 3 (2 players)
kriga checks, compris bets $1400, kriga raises to $9649 all in, compris calls $8249

Turn: ($21348.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($21348.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21348.00
compris shows 4 A (a pair of Fours)
kriga shows Q 7 (a flush, Queen high)
kriga wins $21347.50
(Rake: $0.50)

same here! as i went back to the febHH thread this afternoon and saw all those new posts it was obv that some big action just happened afterwards

any1 with a nice graph of the last 1-2 days?

also props to the dude who predicted the 1mirrion turn ...yeh i know u were kidding but still hahaha ***** epic

ban imo

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9821

Compris sitting on stars, 6 max should fill up soon

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 3 players - View hand 1208986
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compris (BB): $32490.00
refaelamit (BTN): $8996.00
Harrington10 (SB): $20000.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
refaelamit raises to $400, Harrington10 raises to $1400, compris calls $1200, refaelamit calls $1000

Flop: ($4200.00) 3 9 A (3 players)
Harrington10 checks, compris bets $2800, refaelamit raises to $7596 all in, Harrington10 folds, compris calls $4796

Turn: ($19392.00) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($19392.00) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $19392.00
compris shows Q Q A 7 (a pair of Aces)
refaelamit shows 5 7 3 A (two pair, Aces and Threes)
refaelamit wins $19390.00
(Rake: $2.00)

yep, action is on the way. harrington10, kriga and rafaelamit joining

in this particular instance, if you were railing the games closely, you'd see that one of these ways of running bad that AIEV doesn't catch happened repeatedly to palmer, and that's simply Isildur outflopping him with dominated hands in 4 and 5bet pots. It was ridiculous how good Isildur ran in with his paired hands against UrNot's strong AAxx and KKxx when the majority of stacks got in preflop. That's going to show up as Scott getting the money in bad, but really there is one pot size bet left and the majority of the time when the money goes in in those situations he will be a favorite against a pair + kickers or a pair +gutshot.

cliffs: isildur also ran like god in ways that don't show up in AIEV, or rather, show urnotindangr getting the money in bad.

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 3 players
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compris (BB): $20694.00
refaelamit (BTN): $23786.00
Harrington10 (SB): $20000.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
refaelamit raises to $400, Harrington10 raises to $1400, compris calls $1200, refaelamit raises to $5600, Harrington10 calls $4200, compris calls $4200

Flop: ($16800.00) Q 8 5 (3 players)
Harrington10 bets $14400 all in, compris folds, refaelamit calls $14400

Turn: ($45600.00) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($45600.00) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $45600.00
Harrington10 shows 7 5 6 8 (a full house, Fives full of Eights)
Harrington10 wins $45598.00
(Rake: $2.00)

^ there is a delete option on 2+2

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compris (BTN/SB): $20300.00
Harrington10 (BB): $26096.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
compris raises to $600, Harrington10 raises to $1800, compris calls $1200

Flop: ($3600.00) 7 2 4 (2 players)
Harrington10 bets $2400, compris raises to $10798, Harrington10 raises to $20800, compris calls $7702 all in

Turn: ($40600.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($40600.00) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $40600.00
compris shows K Q J 8 (a pair of Kings)
Harrington10 shows Q Q T 9 (a pair of Queens)
compris wins $40598.00
(Rake: $2.00)

A year and a half ago, did anyone think that durrrr would become a live bumhunter and we'd be railing highstakes on Stars?

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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compris (BTN/SB): $20498.00
Harrington10 (BB): $45398.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
compris raises to $600, Harrington10 raises to $1800, compris calls $1200

Flop: ($3600.00) 5 J Q (2 players)
Harrington10 bets $2000, compris raises to $6400, Harrington10 raises to $22798, compris calls $12298 all in

Turn: ($40996.00) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($40996.00) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $40996.00
compris shows 9 Q J 6 (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Harrington10 shows A 5 J T (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
compris wins $40994.00
(Rake: $2.00)

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compris (BB): $20396.00
Harrington10 (BTN/SB): $25196.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
Harrington10 raises to $600, compris raises to $1800, Harrington10 raises to $5400, compris calls $3600

Flop: ($10800.00) 5 4 K (2 players)
compris bets $10798, Harrington10 raises to $19796 all in, compris calls $4198 all in

Turn: ($40792.00) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($40792.00) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $40792.00
compris shows 8 9 A 6 (a pair of Kings)
Harrington10 shows 8 3 K K (four of a kind, Kings)
Harrington10 wins $40790.00
(Rake: $2.00)

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compris (BB): $31992.00
refaelamit (BTN): $13690.00
Harrington10 (SB): $20100.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
1 fold, Harrington10 raises to $600, compris calls $400

Flop: ($1200.00) K 2 9 (2 players)
Harrington10 bets $800, compris calls $800

Turn: ($2800.00) K (2 players)
Harrington10 checks, compris bets $2200, Harrington10 calls $2200

River: ($7200.00) K (2 players)
Harrington10 bets $5600, compris raises to $23998, Harrington10 folds

Final Pot: $18400.00
compris wins $18398.00
(Rake: $2.00)

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compris (BTN/SB): $25790.00
refaelamit (BB): $9590.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
compris raises to $600, refaelamit calls $400

Flop: ($1200.00) 9 7 9 (2 players)
refaelamit checks, compris bets $800, refaelamit calls $800

Turn: ($2800.00) 4 (2 players)
refaelamit checks, compris bets $1800, refaelamit raises to $4200, compris calls $2400

River: ($11200.00) 5 (2 players)
refaelamit bets $3990 all in, compris calls $3990

Final Pot: $19180.00
compris shows J 4 K 9 (a full house, Nines full of Fours)
refaelamit shows 8 A 6 6 (a straight, Five to Nine)
compris wins $19178.00
(Rake: $2.00)