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lol at people lining up to play a site sponsored pro.

looks like blom got the ivey-switch aka the-red-phone-to-the-owner-of-the-site-switch

jokerstars...one time

ya because ivey rigged live poker too...

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/371

haters gonna hate

03-01-2011 , 01:04 PM

#77

TheBroseidon

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So, who's taking bets on how long it is until Isildur's done with his few hours of sleep for the week and is sitting at every PLO table 100/200 and up that Stars has?

03-01-2011 , 01:08 PM

#78

OneWhoShanks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBroseidon

So, who's taking bets on how long it is until Isildur's done with his few hours of sleep for the week and is sitting at every PLO table 100/200 and up that Stars has?

quite sure he won't sit at 200/400 though

03-01-2011 , 01:08 PM

#79

WOOF 08

centurion

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HASTINGS COUNTDOWN - 6 HOURS

03-01-2011 , 01:21 PM

#80

kthxbai

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWhoShanks

quite sure he won't sit at 200/400 though

cuz he has someone setting limits for him right? lol.....

03-01-2011 , 01:24 PM

#81

Matthew90

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WOOF 08

HASTINGS COUNTDOWN - 6 HOURS

what does u mean?

03-01-2011 , 01:41 PM

#82

OneWhoShanks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kthxbai

cuz he has someone setting limits for him right? lol.....

no because isildur has been moving up in limits quite slowly and it has been working...no reason to change now

03-01-2011 , 01:43 PM

#83

poker_n00b

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frankvdg

of course the EV graph doesn't tell the whole story, but it is ALWAYS (ALWAYS) closer to reality (skill) than a winnings graph.

get it?

this. so many people don't get the concept of all in ev.

i think it would be better if HEM, PT3 came up with sklansky bucks... then u could also measure the running bad in non all in pots

03-01-2011 , 01:46 PM

#84

kthxbai

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWhoShanks

no because isildur has been moving up in limits quite slowly and it has been working...no reason to change now

imo only reason its taken so long to even get to 100-200 is he wasnt winning at first, he would have a nice session, then give it back etc. After booking the nice session couple days ago @ 25-50 he was @ 50-100 the next day. Then after crushing the 50-100 he was at 100-200 the next day 6 tabling, thats not slowly imo.

Also I <3 Isildur and its great to watch I was more poking fun at all the people saying stars or someone else has some sort of control over what stakes he decides to play when he sits down at his computer.

03-01-2011 , 01:56 PM

#85

jumboAL

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It's really messing with my head, going to sleep on a almost busted Isildur and coming back thinking that PTR messed up badly somewhere.

ISILDUUUUUUUUUUUUUR

Spoiler:

03-01-2011 , 01:57 PM

#86

BubbaNothing

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Anyone know where Niki Jedlika has been lately? He was involved in some of the 100/200 PLO games a month or two ago but haven't seen him since.

03-01-2011 , 02:10 PM

#87

WOOF 08

centurion

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HASTINGS COUNTDOWN - 5 HOURS

03-01-2011 , 02:11 PM

#88

OneWhoShanks

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stars really needs to stop this imo

03-01-2011 , 02:17 PM

#89

karamazonk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WOOF 08

HASTINGS COUNTDOWN - 5 HOURS

I lol'ed

03-01-2011 , 02:26 PM

#90

effuluck

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ml02kr

o please buddy running 1m under EV is always the excuse, what about all the non ev pots u lost? or he lost? u lost, ante up and play again or stfu dont whine for gawdsake, everybody claims they run under ev look at leatherass this guy only runs under EV prolly cuz he is nut nut all the time

PLO is not quite as easy to be a fav everytime

This pretty much right?....I mean look at how bad isil was running when he was down go his last 6k.....you can't tell me urnot wasn't running way over ev at that point.....no one ever talks about that...

03-01-2011 , 02:27 PM

#91

WOOF 08

centurion

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dont know whats funny, aby time isildur wins a certain amount of money brian turns up the very next day, be intrested to see if urnotindanger will play this evening as well, the boys got a lot of heart, guess we will see.......but still expect stinger v isildur tonight

03-01-2011 , 02:36 PM

#92

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frankvdg

of course the EV graph doesn't tell the whole story, but it is ALWAYS (ALWAYS) closer to reality (skill) than a winnings graph.

get it?

I don't think "All in EV" is a particularly useful statistic. I only look at it when I want to make myself feel better, and say "Wow, I ran bad". It really only tells a small part of the story.

03-01-2011 , 02:40 PM

#93

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leconnaisseur

lol at people lining up to play a site sponsored pro.

looks like blom got the ivey-switch aka the-red-phone-to-the-owner-of-the-site-switch

jokerstars...one time

If you've been paying attention, Isildur1 hasn't exactly been crushing the games on PokerStars since being signed. In fact, he's been arguably a break-even/losing player (in an admittedly very high variance game).

So don't hate on him, or invent silly conspiracy theories. The guy did something legitimately amazing by having the mental fortitude to suffer a crushing -$450,000 defeat, with $6,000 left in his account, and ran that all the way back up to a $400k-ish profit. That was a $900,000 swing, from $6K left in his account.

It was seriously amazing. URNot has to be shaking his head in disbelief, too.

http://www.highstakesdb.com/2051-isi...oses-495k.aspx

03-01-2011 , 02:50 PM

#94

WAtR

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Quote:

Originally Posted by moki

I don't think "All in EV" is a particularly useful statistic. I only look at it when I want to make myself feel better, and say "Wow, I ran bad". It really only tells a small part of the story.

I don't know about that, I've run 4bb/100 under my expected winrate over my last 100k hands due to being under allin EV. This is pretty significant. With smaller samples a player's winrate can vary hugely due solely to allin EV.

03-01-2011 , 02:53 PM

#95

WOOF 08

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have to admit, i would pay good money just to get a pciture of scotts face after he quit the session.........."he only had 6k.........."

03-01-2011 , 03:07 PM

#96

pompus22

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if anyone wants to know the comeback starts on page98 post 9797

quote:
and it is all over

edit: oh no wait he s got 6k left, lets see if he can turn it in a million

Last edited by pompus22; 03-01-2011 at 03:07 PM. Reason: OF THE FEB THREAD OBV

03-01-2011 , 03:12 PM

#97

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pompus22

if anyone wants to know the comeback starts on page98 post 9797

quote:
and it is all over

edit: oh no wait he s got 6k left, lets see if he can turn it in a million

Link to the epic post that predicted it all:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...l#post25117715

03-01-2011 , 03:15 PM

#98

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WAtR

Sure. But what does the statistic tell you? Okay, you ran bad. How does it help you?

You can run bad, and still not be playing well. You can run good, and be playing very good.

Other than as a curiosity, "okay, I ran bad", I think it's not very useful. There are other metrics recorded in HEM/PT3 that will give you a better idea of how you're actually playing, and how you might improve your game.

Knowing that you've run bad or good doesn't tell you anything that you can improve/change at all. There's no way to "fix" variance, you just have to deal with it.