Wonder how much rake Stars collect per month just from the 100/200 games that only run cos Isildur is playing? That in itself probably justifies his wage, and is fairly insignificant compared to his overall value to the site.

Poker Stars $25/$50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $10 Ante - 6 players - View hand 1665216
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

1Il|1Il|1il| (UTG): $5000.00
The Liar (MP): $14801.00
<xllllll>< (CO): $4865.88
long90110 (BTN): $5030.00
0Human0 (SB): $10612.00
St1ckman (BB): $6009.00

Pre Flop: ($135.00)
1 fold, The Liar raises to $150, 1 fold, long90110 calls $150, 1 fold, St1ckman raises to $685, The Liar calls $535, long90110 calls $535

Flop: ($2140.00) 2 Q K (3 players)
St1ckman bets $2137, The Liar raises to $8548, long90110 calls $4335 all in, St1ckman calls $3177 all in

Turn: ($17103.00) 2 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($17103.00) 3 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $17103.00
The Liar shows T T J Q (a flush, King high)
long90110 shows Q 8 2 A (a full house, Deuces full of Queens)
St1ckman shows 8 T A J (a pair of Deuces)
The Liar wins $1958.00
long90110 wins $15142.00
(Rake: $3.00)

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Poker Stars $25/$50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $10 Ante - 6 players - View hand 1665218
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

1Il|1Il|1il| (BB): $5000.00
The Liar (UTG): $10750.00
<xllllll>< (MP): $4855.88
long90110 (CO): $15142.00
0Human0 (BTN): $10577.00
St1ckman (SB): $5000.00

Pre Flop: ($135.00)
1 fold, <xllllll>< raises to $200, 3 folds, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $685, <xllllll>< calls $485

Flop: ($1455.00) K J 3 (2 players)
1Il|1Il|1il| bets $800, <xllllll>< raises to $3852, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $4305 all in, <xllllll>< calls $308.88 all in

Turn: ($9776.76) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($9776.76) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $9776.76
1Il|1Il|1il| shows T A A 8 (a flush, Ace high)
<xllllll>< shows T A 9 K (a straight, Seven to Jack)
1Il|1Il|1il| wins $9773.76
(Rake: $3.00)

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Well considering they probably all have 60%+ rakeback, I'm not sur it's that much. If stars is getting 40% of 3 dollars each hand (don't even know what's the cap for rake but anyway) it means something like 1.2$ / hand for PS so about 80K hands / month to make 80k (I honnestly think either they give him more, either he has very low negotiation skills / bad friends). Does Isil presence raises #hands played by 80K each month ? I guess you're probably able to give a better answer to this than me ! :=)
Even with this number, it doesn't include all of stars costs (first 80K salary means much more for them) like security etc. which must be kind of improved at these stakes ...

This said, I definitely agree that this value is insignificant compared to his overall value for the site - which is surely much more than they pay him.

wauw, how long hes been away?

I remember a show called "Two Months, Two Million". 4 guys didn't make it within 2 Months - but Viktor is so capable of reaching this goal within this weekend. Go Viktor, Go!!!

If you check the eric lindgren scammer thread or whatever, you can see that top ftp pros got 250k back in the day. Given the fact that Viktor signed his contract with stars pre-black friday, the amount of 80k/month doesnt seem unreasonable, on the contrary, it seems rather low tbh...

So tilting to watch Davin whine liek this when he obv have been runnign great for a long time... Just the fact that he has climbed to 100/200 PLO but seems that a losing day vs these ppl at these stakes is unfathomable (spelling)

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Isildur1 Online 9576 hands $944,791

wtf

My guess it that he only plays with what stars give him for personal reasons. Cause we know what Viktor is like with his $. Also do you guys think that he plays on Euro sites with his own money under a different screen name etc.

Wtf, oogee down 108k playing PLO. I thought he only played limit games.

afaik Lindgren was getting 250k/month or whatever it was because he had money invested in the company, just like ivey and the others but with less %, not because of his merits as poker pro.

Hasn't it been revealed that Viktor's assistant or someone has him on a stoploss program? Maybe he has self-imposed deposit limits, to prevent him from tilting away his whole bankroll in one session.

He always withdraws after a big win, so this seems likely.

isildur pushes more hands than anyone at 50/100 when hes active, so its safe to say that he brings the action with the amount of hands he plays at a minimum more to the site(if we take away isildur from the big games, they wouldnt run much at all.) He is the catalyst for highstakes games, and because of it, it runs for a minimum of xK hands of whatever x is(isildurs volume) and add another yK hands or so more hands from other players because of pure tilt/makeup attempts etc from sessions w/ isildur when hes not online.

we can discuss to days of end how much x+y is, but from earlier experience and data isildur pushes the most hands at 50/100 of them all, so x is big, knowing how big y is is kinda hard tho since i do not wanna take into account the hands isildur is involved in.

But im sure that alone makes his salary not so costly for stars as it swallows a fair share, so with the marketing, interviews, googlehits, tournycrap etcetc im sure stars doesn't think it really costs them $80k a month or whatever he gets IF he keeps pushing that insane volume he'd done already as it make ups for alot of it. His value would dimnish ALOT if he only played like 5k hands a month or so, like many pro's did before getting dropped just to try leech out a few more monthly wages.

I wonder what Vik's assistant looks like if female

or

what weapons they would need to enforce the stoploss if male

He doesn´t "need" it in a technical sense, but it seems like he just freerolls the monthly payments spin up style. He either wins huge or he busts very quickly and we don´t hear from him for the rest of the month. He also seems to cash out quite a bit, keeping his exposure to Pokerstars at the bare minimum.

Also, let´s not forget he took the 3 month break after loaning 200-300k from Ziigmund, i.e. he wasn´t seen again until he had paid off the amount using his alledged monthly payments from Pokerstars.

I see a pattern.

My gut sense just tells me - we are onto something with that theory.

80k isn´t all that much considering all the FTP pros and "friends" had 100 % rakeback accounts.

The value of these accounts would have been insane for people with some kind of work ethic (i.e. like 50k at month 12 tabling 2/4 PLO). They were handed to nobodies from all sorts of countries.

Isildur is pretty much the online superstar. My guess is 80k is on the low end.

she's female and there was a picture of them hugging after his PCA HR win, everyone tought it was his gf

Wasn't intentional, you caught me failing, iam rly embarrassed right now


There is rumor, that Hac and gandalf are living in vanq together, plus barcode (wtf barcode is quite funny) rarely plays him on same table (obv never HU).
But as I said, not confirmed, might be urnot PLUS it might be anyone still.

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